Post 1490593 by lyliawisteria@enby.club
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(DIR) Post #1489506 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T00:19:30Z
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What email client do you use? I'm about ready to cut the gmail cord. I just need to turn the forwarding off and start checking the mailbox. At the moment Thunderbird is the only think I know of, but I feel like it's not well liked. I'm running Linux Mint MATE if it matters.#Help #Email
(DIR) Post #1490570 by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2018-11-26T01:34:15Z
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@SetecAstronomy I've self hosted my current e-mail server since 2012 and used Thunderbird + Roundcube for web. The only other decent e-mail client for Linux is Evolution and it's okay .. but I really only use it of I need to connect to an Exchange server.Evolution is better at supporting CalDav, although Thunderbird/Lightning support isn't bad. (Radicalie is a good server).On the console you've got options like mutt ... hmm .. I should look back into console e-mail clients.
(DIR) Post #1490593 by lyliawisteria@enby.club
2018-11-26T01:37:16Z
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@SetecAstronomy don't you want to use a mail client that works for you, and isn't based on what everyone else likes? just use what you like. i use Thunderbird, it works, i don't understand anyone's vague problems with it.
(DIR) Post #1490663 by anish@vis.social
2018-11-26T01:43:22Z
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@SetecAstronomy im using evolution. it's a shame that in current year email desktop clients are a mess. im not really a fan of evolution either.i hear good things about mutt, but it's got a steep learning curve and assumes cli experience the fediverse's very own @HerraBRE develops mailpile which seems the most promising solution ive seen. maybe try that?
(DIR) Post #1490690 by sungo@bsd.network
2018-11-26T01:45:20Z
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@SetecAstronomy I'm an old graybeard who's still using mutt and not regretting a moment :)
(DIR) Post #1490696 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T01:46:22Z
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@sungo @anish I am not only not-averse to CLI, I actually have a VT320 dumb terminal on my desk as a console on my desktop PC. So mutt might be an option. Honestly I'd probably not want that to be the primary though. Sometimes you just want a big screen with color, Unicode, and image support 😀
(DIR) Post #1490705 by sungo@bsd.network
2018-11-26T01:48:02Z
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@SetecAstronomy @anish My terminal does Unicode, color, and opens images in feh quite nicely :) On my backup server, I use getmail to download my mail into a Maildir and point whatever email client I feel like at it. Usually mu for advanced searching
(DIR) Post #1490710 by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T01:48:30.356434Z
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@djsumdog @SetecAstronomy Same. T-bird mutt dovecot sendmail
(DIR) Post #1490766 by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2018-11-26T01:53:54Z
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@meowski @SetecAstronomy You still use sendmail? 😶 I was on postfix for years and recently switched to opensmtpd on openbsd. The openbsd 6.4 release changes the entire config file, so I've considered going back to postfix and migrating it all over to Docker.
(DIR) Post #1490776 by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T01:54:47.579730Z
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@djsumdog @SetecAstronomy The thing i like about sendmail is that I know how to configure it up one side and down the other. Also there is a fail2ban plugin for it. So yes.
(DIR) Post #1490929 by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2018-11-26T02:04:07Z
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@meowski @SetecAstronomy That's fair. I personally haven't touched sendmail since ~2002. Back then it had a ton of security issues/fixes every month, but so did everything from that era (like Win NT4/2003). Postfix is also terribly complex as well. opensmtpd has a pretty sane configuration, but a little less flexible. oh and I setup qmail for myself back in the day, but that hasn't been maintained since 2007.
(DIR) Post #1491150 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:19:47Z
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@djsumdog @meowski I have to admit, as I've been sitting here thinking about How I Want To Use Things, the idea of having my own mail server (even if it only pulls mail from the primary box on my web host) is appealing, because then it's easier to get a web-mail-like experience, with clients on multiple PCs. I like the idea of being able to check my mail from my desktop, laptop, phone, without having to worry about the limits of my hosted mailbox or which clients are set to download and which leave the mail on the server.
(DIR) Post #1491220 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-26T02:26:01Z
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@SetecAstronomy I'm fine with Thunderbird.
(DIR) Post #1491233 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:27:22Z
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@Ricardus That seems to be the consensus. I don't know where I heard rumors otherwise, but I'll discount them. I think I had some issues with it once, but that would have been many versions ago.
(DIR) Post #1491243 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-26T02:28:05Z
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@SetecAstronomy Also:TOO MANY SECRETS
(DIR) Post #1491268 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-26T02:30:25Z
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@SetecAstronomy Love that film.
(DIR) Post #1491307 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:33:48Z
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@Ricardus It's one of my favorites. Incidentally it's also on the list for #WeAreNameless to watch (not sure just how far down the list, but it's there.)If you're interested in watching cyberpunk and cyberpunk-adjacent movies with friends on the fediverse, you should join us. We all start at the same time and chat under the #WeAreNameless hashtag. We have a new movie every month.@ella_kane is our organizer if that's something that interests you.
(DIR) Post #1491322 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-26T02:35:21Z
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@SetecAstronomy @ella_kane That sounds like fun. Once a month when?
(DIR) Post #1491379 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:39:03Z
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@Ricardus The last viewing was on the 17th. Looking at the calendar I'd guess the next would probably be Dec. 15th, but @ella_kane will need to confirm that.
(DIR) Post #1491391 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:39:07Z
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@Ricardus @SetecAstronomy the poll's results just came out. We're going to watch Blade Runner in December.Date will be announced here, on the pad of suggestions: https://etherpad.fr/p/wearenamelessAnd, ofc, using the WeAreNameless hashtag. You can follow me or pin the hashtag for more. I still haven't decided on the date, but it's usually on a Saturday around 10 or 11 UTC.If you wanna join please feel free to let me know what's your hour availability in the pad, so next time I have that into account as well. :)
(DIR) Post #1491393 by SetecAstronomy@hackers.town
2018-11-26T02:39:45Z
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@ella_kane @Ricardus Or, you know, what she said.
(DIR) Post #1491454 by meowski@freespeechextremist.com
2018-11-26T02:44:57.358580Z
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@SetecAstronomy @djsumdog TBQH hosting your own mail server is a giant pain in the ass if you want to do it right. Absolutely not worth it unless you have a good reason such as hosting domains where web apps need to send legit mail from those domains. Many mail providers like google offer IMAP service.
(DIR) Post #1492120 by Ricardus@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-26T03:20:20Z
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@ella_kane @SetecAstronomy Oh, cool, thanks. Watched Bladerunner pretty recently so I probably won't watch this time. But next time definitely.
(DIR) Post #1492480 by gedvondur@hulvr.com
2018-11-26T03:43:03Z
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@SetecAstronomy I haven't checked in years, but I think that there is little to no development on Thunderbird. Email clients are pretty heavily out of favor. I used AirMail on Mac, that was good, but no use to you. How about something like outlook.com?
(DIR) Post #1492499 by djsumdog@hitchhiker.social
2018-11-26T03:43:59Z
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@SetecAstronomy @meowski I'd have to agree with meowski. When you run your own server, you'll also have trouble sending to Google/Microsoft and others. They do not respect SPF/DKIM and only trust high traffic servers. I wrote about the hostile e-mail landscape a while back:https://penguindreams.org/blog/how-google-and-microsoft-made-email-unreliable/If ActivityPub becomes mainstream, you can bet the big players will squash small instances under the premise of spam prevention.
(DIR) Post #1493314 by ella_kane@hackers.town
2018-11-26T04:29:06Z
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@Ricardus @SetecAstronomy we'll most likely do Tron in January as it came second in our poll.You're free to give your movie suggestions in the pad as long as they fit the theme. Every 2 months we'll do a poll to help me decide which is next. :C_H:
(DIR) Post #1494718 by remotenemesis@hackers.town
2018-11-26T06:02:58Z
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@SetecAstronomy I'm getting by with Mail on OSX although I'm not excited to install GPG Tools so I guess I'll be looking for something else also.
(DIR) Post #1494903 by Jo@social.diskseven.com
2018-11-26T06:18:41Z
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@SetecAstronomy There's Claws Mail of you can deal without swanky HTML messages (and honestly, who uses that beyond
(DIR) Post #1494922 by Jo@social.diskseven.com
2018-11-26T06:20:04Z
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@SetecAstronomy There is Claws Mail if you can deal without swanky HTML mails (you can ask still read them, but they'll be displayed in plaintext, stripped of their markup)
(DIR) Post #1495109 by alcinnz@floss.social
2018-11-26T06:31:09Z
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@SetecAstronomy There's Geary.
(DIR) Post #1495888 by drwho@mastodon.social
2018-11-26T07:18:39Z
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@SetecAstronomy I used Pine for many years, then mutt for many years. These days, I use Protonmail.
(DIR) Post #1495904 by drwho@mastodon.social
2018-11-26T07:19:05Z
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@SetecAstronomy ...after running my own mail server until January of 2018 (since 1995).
(DIR) Post #1495918 by drwho@mastodon.social
2018-11-26T07:19:30Z
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@SetecAstronomy Oh, and I used Thunderbird on my work laptop for six or seven years.
(DIR) Post #1496614 by dfgweb@mamot.fr
2018-11-26T07:56:24Z
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@SetecAstronomy evolution for me
(DIR) Post #1497018 by ChrisTalleras@mastodon.art
2018-11-26T08:15:40Z
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@SetecAstronomy I like Thunderbird another neat email client is evolution.I use Posteo as my email service but I've heard protonmail is pretty good as well.
(DIR) Post #1503283 by starbreaker@bsd.network
2018-11-26T13:21:38Z
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@SetecAstronomy If you want a graphical client, try claws-mail.
(DIR) Post #1503284 by starbreaker@bsd.network
2018-11-26T13:21:45Z
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@SetecAstronomy If you want a graphical client, try claws-mail.
(DIR) Post #1513942 by jim@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2018-11-26T22:28:07Z
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@SetecAstronomy put all your mail in a local Maildir, use notmuch to index it, then read with Astroid or alot, or emacs I guess!
(DIR) Post #1698582 by gemlog@mastodonten.de
2018-12-04T02:45:52Z
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@SetecAstronomy I've been happy with tbird for years. install it for clients in windows shops too, but all my linux friends use tbird. used to use kmail.An uber nerd would use a text-based program though ;-)