Post 1228812 by yams_gamgee@eldritch.cafe
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(DIR) Post #1228505 by Elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me
2018-11-15T18:33:34Z
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I actually have serious concerns about hard AI, not the issues with it taking over, if they're as ethical as we are it'll be fine. What I'm afraid of is that we will enslave them much as we enslave low-wage workers now. It's not fair to enslave an intelligent race (yes, machines would count) just so we can live in paradise. It just shifts the harm in the name of "the greater good." Too many horrible things have been done in the name of "the greater good"
(DIR) Post #1228550 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2018-11-15T18:35:43Z
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@Elizafox AI has no self-awareness nor any kind of senses or emotions as we conceive them, it's just a huge pile of self-generated algorythms yet
(DIR) Post #1228557 by Elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me
2018-11-15T18:36:12Z
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Capitalism for the machines, Socialism for the humans, this doesn't seem fair to me. This seems outright horrible in fact. And hard AI is going to be necessary to automate many tasks, like programming machines and difficult maintenance tasks.Not to mention sending them to do things that would lead to their certain demise or cause harm (as would sometimes be necessary) is cruel too. Think of their operators who would be attached to them also.
(DIR) Post #1228598 by Elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me
2018-11-15T18:38:27Z
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This leads me to believe that full automation is probably unethical and undesirable, but this means that people will have to continue to do unpleasant tasks. I just hope machine development goes in the direction of making these tasks less and less dangerous, tedious, and/or strenuous.
(DIR) Post #1228639 by plausocks@mst3k.interlinked.me
2018-11-15T18:40:45Z
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@Elizafox also brings up the question, when do we start interpreting autonomous devices as ai? they can be programmed to ACT like ai afterall...
(DIR) Post #1228650 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2018-11-15T18:41:28Z
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@Elizafox the thing is, for it to be unethical, these machines would need consciousness, thoughts, desires and needs of its own which would be contradicted by taking advantage of them. Neural networks consist on a series of complex, interconnected functions generated by feeding data - which have to be created for each needed task and are unaware of any other existing neural networks that may be co-existing. You can't give it a mind like that.
(DIR) Post #1228709 by espectalll@mstdn.io
2018-11-15T18:44:30Z
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@Elizafox Of course you can talk of a hypothetical future, and although we don't even know how to determine if something has consciousness, feeding a sequence of pictures to make it recognize a cat won't make it feel a painful void because of a lack of self-fulfilling and being condemned to a dreadfully repetitive and monotone life. It's just not aware of anything, it's only a calculator.
(DIR) Post #1228812 by yams_gamgee@eldritch.cafe
2018-11-15T18:49:11Z
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@ElizafoxI wonder often about what form sentient AI will take. Will their conciousness be entirely grounded in their specific physical components the way ours is? Or would an AI be happy to pilot a chassis on a sort of suicide mission - to another planet say - because it knows its consciousness is not bound to those components and is still safe in a server bank in Ohio.
(DIR) Post #1229358 by alexandria@mastodon.sdf.org
2018-11-15T19:16:57Z
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@ElizafoxWhat Picard/Guinan said about Data in A Measure of A Man is still really poignant and applies here tbh