Post 121764 by tobyclick@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #120586 by jk@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:26:30Z
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a hundred thousand people have tooted me to tell me the word for a selfie before it was called that was “self-portrait”, which isn’t really correct, is it. nobody calls picasso’s 1906 self portrait a selfie. ‘selfie’ IS actually a new word for a (slightly older) concept, a subset of the original broader idea, but confined to the mechanics of “hold a camera of some kind at arms length”. maybe I’m just a Splitter and y’all Lumpers on this one
(DIR) Post #120598 by pan@glitch.social
2018-09-21T13:28:25Z
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@jk you're right tho, a self portrait is a totally different thing in a lot of ways and includes stuff like. people painting their own face from memory, doing something they didn't actually do
(DIR) Post #120615 by jk@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:30:12Z
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I guess it really comes down to how you define ‘selfie’, whether it counts if it’s in a mirror (if it does, why do people always call them “mirror selfies” rather than just “selfies”?), whether using a self-timer counts etcand thats basically a tiresome “we all have a different model for something that we assumed we shared” meme in itself, just like What Counts As A Sandwich or What Color Is The Dressanyway I guess thats why I find it frustrating
(DIR) Post #120622 by eloisa@masto.pt
2018-09-21T13:31:08Z
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@jk selfie is a new word, yes. The proto-selfie was kind of a self-portrait, but in essence, technologically and social and historically speaking, a selfie is something of its own. Rooted in Self-Portrait, it has deviated into something new due to:. first, webcams, then cell-phones with cams and later popularized with smartphones with cameras front and back!
(DIR) Post #120641 by OsaEngawa@knzk.me
2018-09-21T13:33:35Z
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@jk selfie carries a sense of spontaneity, both in creating and sharing, that’s lacking in self-portrait. I’d say selfies really only became possible with polaroid cameras and even then lacked the immediate widespread that makes them a notable phenomenon now
(DIR) Post #120651 by aeonofdiscord@icosahedron.website
2018-09-21T13:34:04Z
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@jk guessing this is rooted in the hot take™️ that 'selfies aren't a new thing because self-portraits already existed', in response to the brief moral panic about ubiquitous self-photographing technology creating a Narcissism Generation or w/e
(DIR) Post #120717 by envgen@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:41:55Z
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@jk steady on there, The Bad Guy From Life Is Strange
(DIR) Post #120722 by RobF@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:42:30Z
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@jk yeah, selfie implies an immediacy to me that other actions don't.
(DIR) Post #120854 by jk@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:53:35Z
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@envgen i dont get the ref sorry
(DIR) Post #120861 by envgen@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:54:40Z
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@jk it is in relation to the character in the 2015 video game life is strange who is the bad guy in the game life is strange (2015)
(DIR) Post #120877 by jk@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T13:56:14Z
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@envgen ah I didn’t play the 2015 video game life is strange in 2015 (or 2016, 2017 or 2018) so I don’t know who it is, but I may find out who it is if I do end up playing the 2015 life is strange video game (from 2015) in 2019 or 2020, or maybe even later in 2018
(DIR) Post #120901 by envgen@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T14:01:32Z
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@jk id recommend that you play it but i dont recommend it
(DIR) Post #120904 by Efi@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T14:01:57Z
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@jk *ahem*, actually, it comes from the greek word σελφοσ (selphos) which translates to latin Splendos, splendor, bright, happy, joyful, shinyselfie is a happy picture you take with your friends, it only has that self-portrait connotation because that's the way it's most often done, just a coincidence
(DIR) Post #121764 by tobyclick@mastodon.social
2018-09-21T15:09:02Z
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@jk One thing I don't get about selfies taken by holding the camera up to a mirror: there's a mirror RIGHT THERE. Why not USE it to see the viewfinder and get a direct picture of oneself?