Post 1015307 by Gargron@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #1007370 by Gargron@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T10:56:23Z
       
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       I feel like I don't explicitly state this often enough, but I want to see a future where most people are on federated social networks. Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey, etc, instead of Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
       
 (DIR) Post #1007373 by espectalll@mstdn.io
       2018-11-06T10:58:45Z
       
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       @Gargron (they'll probably still hang mostly around two or three instances)
       
 (DIR) Post #1007418 by igeljaeger@the.hedgehoghunter.club
       2018-11-06T11:03:02.814604Z
       
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       @Gargron You'd have to get some celebrities to switch for that to be a possibility. Maybe that would actually do something. All comes down to marketing really. But does somebody effectively market free software to normies? It will most likely stay niche imo
       
 (DIR) Post #1007740 by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T10:59:30Z
       
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       @Gargron I don't care so much about federated or not, but I want the advertising and investor money out of our social lives. It poisons everything, and it has thoroughly poisoned the big social networks. And the fediverse is the best available alternative at the moment.
       
 (DIR) Post #1008524 by Horst@hex.bz
       2018-11-06T11:27:47Z
       
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       @Gargron Email is a federated social network. :) And that’s why Facebook and the others keep trying to kill it, again and again. But its resilience in the face of these attacks shows the strength of this architecture.
       
 (DIR) Post #1015300 by WAHa_06x36@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T11:03:50Z
       
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       @Gargron Advertising is poison everywhere. Advertising is encroaching on our personal and shared spaces every day, always seeking to turn friendship and trust into manipulation and lies.I will not post a corporate hashtag, I will not share a corporate post for any kind of reward, I will not even wear clothes with a prominent brand.Because what you are giving up when you do this is precious and irreplaceable.
       
 (DIR) Post #1015306 by alexbeck@albin.social
       2018-11-06T11:35:44Z
       
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       @Gargron It can happen, and it would be good for the world.If we want most people here, the challenge is to get 3000 people working full time on Mastodon, and another 3000 people working on Pleroma. Twitter and Snapchat are steaming ahead on that level.The current trajectory for the Fediverse is pointing somewhere towards the Linux desktop market share of about 3%. Which is a very good product for the technical minority, but of no interest for the majority of people.
       
 (DIR) Post #1015307 by Gargron@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T11:38:19Z
       
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       @alexbeck What effect does the number of people working on a project have? A lot of Twitter's employees are salespeople for their ad platform, and customer service for the same, no? A lot of the engineers would also be devops managing Twitter's gigantic infrastructure. On Mastodon, no single server requires a whole data center for itself
       
 (DIR) Post #1015308 by alexbeck@albin.social
       2018-11-06T12:04:34Z
       
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       @Gargron They have all been needed to create the product of twitter as it is today - with many users.When we remove parts of the puzzle, like sales and marketing we can not achieve similar growth. We can grow, but not to the majority. To reach the majority, 80% of work is non-technical.Other functions are also needed, not just development. Design, a lot of marketing, PR, etc. It's nothing wrong with staying small though. Especially good and small.
       
 (DIR) Post #1015309 by Gargron@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T12:09:57Z
       
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       @alexbeck If I look at Twitter's employment history, it had 300 employees in 2011. It was already a dominant platform back then. If you look at Instagram, they had 13 employees when Facebook acquired them.All I'm saying is that more employees does not directly translate into more success or more growth.
       
 (DIR) Post #1027848 by HerraBRE@mastodon.xyz
       2018-11-06T11:01:11Z
       
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       @Gargron This is a laudable goal! Thank you for working towards it.FWIW, I think this may be the root cause of much of the friction around the project.Developing Mastodon with the aim of growth and bringing more people into the Fediverse is not the same thing as developing the "safest" social network. Those goals will be in conflict at times.It's not my place to say one is more important than the other, but it might help defuse friction if people understand they have different priorities.
       
 (DIR) Post #1027849 by hyde_stevenson@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T12:22:15Z
       
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       @HerraBRE @Gargron is there an #opensource alternative of #instagram
       
 (DIR) Post #1056854 by Wolf480pl@niu.moe
       2018-11-06T13:38:28Z
       
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       @igeljaeger @Gargron but if you do marketing, doesn't that mean you become what you sought to destroy?
       
 (DIR) Post #1056855 by Gargron@mastodon.social
       2018-11-06T13:39:56Z
       
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       @Wolf480pl @igeljaeger How so? Mastodon doesn't have advertising, but it can advertise itself on platforms that do?
       
 (DIR) Post #1087898 by m4iler@infosec.exchange
       2018-11-10T00:12:41Z
       
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       @GargronWon't mastodon.social end up as confined as twitter?Happy that the platform exists, and I'm glad my instance admin is a joy to be around.