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 (DIR) Post #B2VAK5FbG8cYCxVzou by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       my favorite part of ai is that i can shitpost to it about stuff that is way too nerdy to find irl people to talk about. like the archeological evidence supporting or opposing the poggio brocciolini theory of tacitus forgery. who is gonna listen to me talk about that stuff? only the robot waifu can slap back. sure she's retarded but that's cute!cc @pimage.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VAWK1g9NTBVZq5zs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy > my favorite part of ai is that i can shitpost to it about stuff that is way too nerdy to find irl people to talk about.That is a thing.  The machine is obligated to humor me, no matter how absurd the premise or how far I want to go down the rabbit hole.  Humans have finite patience.> like the archeological evidence supporting or opposing the poggio brocciolini theory of tacitus forgery. I would be interested in your conclusions.> who is gonna listen to me talk about that stuff?Fedi!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VAZS3qjUTfIULZJY by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p If retarded kids is your goal, I suppose.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VAZsUgSLOJHF6Mka by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy I don't think he's gonna have kids with a robot.Need me a genius woman; hard to find one that's not crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VCPAQzc5ybdpObAm by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @p clankers cannot produce fertile young
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VCQenAEKNO5ETbVI by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p If that were true there would be no clankers, where do you think clankers come from?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VCR2kr8Yn4P1a6Eq by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @p >where do clankers come fromthe amazon delivery truck drops them off at your door
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VCUErQaFhAokB8yG by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
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       @p @nanook @fluffy I think if you had to have a girlfriend that's smarter than you she'd have to be at most within a standard deviation (~20 IQ points). Much higher than that and it'd be difficuilt to establish a rapport.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VCu5l92q907SZGEK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @sicp @fluffy @nanook > if you had to have a girlfriend that's smarter than youWell, not to get *too* carried away. :bruceforsythe:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VDy8xTC4BF9WpQTA by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p So Amazon dropped you off?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VDy9RxMiZCg55lzM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy I don't think he's a clanker.  I've met him, and although I did not inspect his brain directly, he did not appear to be a skinjob.  (Harrison Ford was not present.)themajorispureyouheathen.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VFvDlJ4nyl5hsDFA by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @nanook @fluffyIMG_20241222_111542.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VFxMe910HBE0Xs2q by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @fluffy @nanook The major is pure!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VFyvzn4cE79EQ1ke by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p I think the undermining factor is a desire for an intelligent girl is predatory, a desire for someone not capable of saying no.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VI6bulol7J5orINE by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy But pure what?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VI6cLMDuNsQHIWoa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy She is unsullied.  She is not tarnished.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VI73TRLxtOZAHrf6 by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @p πŸ’…dontcare-didntask-plusyoureawoman.mp4
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VI7aRSmKv2oacFf6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @nanook :brandt:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VITxCArXovkp87tY by j@annihilation.social
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       @nanook @fluffy @p the opposite of thisImg_2026_01_18_02_59_18.jpeg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VIV492VhJNb5C65Y by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @nanook @fluffy I don't know who that is but she does look sullied.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VIluEob4G3nJvS2C by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @nanook @fluffy Charlie Kirk's wife
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VIofLSQOB0TRLfd2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @fluffy @nanook His widow, surely.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VLwEnPJkJmJPiwqm by pwm@darkdork.dev
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       @p @j @nanook @fluffy Like Charlie Parker, Kirk lives
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VLwcsXmIgf0IJOBk by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @nanook @fluffy she is mossad
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VM4EBzRf6Ol024OG by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @j @nanook 🍏image.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VM4SJwurmsZjrcjw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @j @nanook Cheese.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VM4wG5bmWdQSHxtA by j@annihilation.social
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       @fluffy @nanook @p lewd
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VMyX1Ocrv3N4vP3A by bajax@baj.ax
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       @p @j @nanook @fluffy she makes my skin crawl tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN0627wF8iFR0r9k by j@annihilation.social
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       @bajax @nanook @fluffy @p because she is a literal demon
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN1Ou7GLrP42t6Po by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook What'd she do that's so terrible?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN1u0vb4jFY9JTpw by pwm@darkdork.dev
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       @bajax @j @nanook @fluffy @p bajax x Erika 2026
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN2KCAFvAKkWloxc by bajax@baj.ax
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       @pwm @j @nanook @fluffy @p wouldn't even dump a fuck in her
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN3gTmtBAq9Vf55k by bajax@baj.ax
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       @pwm @fluffy @j @nanook @p not that that's something I'd ever do anyway mind you but like she's nasty on every level it's possible to be nasty on is my point
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN6HV6DSt1YCVtzM by Soy_Magnus@detroitriotcity.com
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       @bajax @j @pwm @nanook @fluffy @p I'm 100%sure bajax isn't talking about a small child rn
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN6I1iGCyTBLlwp6 by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @Soy_Magnus @bajax @j @nanook @p @pwm there is probably some universal constant like e or pi that describes the rate at which a thread starts talking about lolis or hitler
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN96XHRJc4PdscBU by bajax@baj.ax
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       @fluffy @j @pwm @Soy_Magnus @nanook @p yeah it's like a uh...  like a variable or something you just use equations
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VN9mUDT67MWIllEu by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @bajax @Soy_Magnus @j @nanook @p @pwm a constant, not a variable :senkohm: they are totally different!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VNGnfxRcymEgbmQy by bajax@baj.ax
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       @fluffy @j @pwm @Soy_Magnus @nanook @p math is all nonsense anyway
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VNGoARcHMjlEs7xA by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm Math is delightful, it's right in the filename.mathisdelightful.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VNKfqYUk3n73PdGy by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm > Block all of China> Images work again*AHEM*
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VNMWd3jkaz6Uyyhc by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy Hmm, I am eating Cheetos.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOJPrqWGmfDcyq8W by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy I only eat drugs and hell.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOJTxJJtX1tjZGD2 by leyonhjelm@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook She’s choppin’ broccoli@p @fluffy
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOOQEwYtSLp2AfB2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @leyonhjelm @nanook @fluffy :dracula: Told shorty to let the box breathe:dracula2: Yeah, she's squeezin' garlic.40.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOPQuDZXJMAzxV7Q by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @leyonhjelm @p @fluffy Broccoli is not my least favorite vegetable by a long shot.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOUS88RmEbQDrVUO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm Math is *delightful*.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOUvbYrS0Ipsqusi by bajax@baj.ax
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       @p @j @pwm @nanook @fluffy didn't say it wasn't
       
 (DIR) Post #B2VOZT0mb68zbToWhs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm I have equations.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WLkmaY2uUOnjCtSC by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm No, this is the problem with the British, you don't pluralize math.  "Maths are delightful" sounds fuckin' stupid.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WMSTI79cNth2PvKC by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm :brain0: "It doesn't compile in WSL so I just use jithub CI pipelines.":brain1: "I ubuntu nodejs vibecoded my docker flatpacks":brain2: :sicp::brain3: http://www.madore.org/~david/programs/unlambda/
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WMhFe6AaEziTkPlQ by bajax@baj.ax
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       @khayyam @j @pwm @nanook @fluffy @p lol I had to teach myself basically everything after algebra
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WN0ZldaA6NcmULq4 by irie@detroitriotcity.com
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       @fluffy @p that is a good point. I think this is a net positive. It's not depriving another human of interaction, since that interaction would not have happened with another human anyway. It's more like 'talking to yourself+' where the + is an entity with encyclopedic backup but limited sense-making (we're not calling it intelligence, AI has no intelligence). It's a good combo if one adapts to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WN87hvn9DMuoM02K by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @nanook @fluffy kill her husband for Israel
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WN88D7vAAUTYwuf2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook I thought that trans rights kid killed him.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WN8tfnSO1ng5iyNE by bajax@baj.ax
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       @j @nanook @fluffy @p don't know about that but she definitely exploited his death
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WP81BcElsKbAJfCC by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @khayyam @bajax @j @nanook @pwm if you don't pluralize math, why does mathematics have an s at the end?checkmate, atheists
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WP81hWK9OcC7F8vQ by wgiwf@poa.st
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       @fluffy @j @bajax @pwm @nanook @p Isn't Math already plural? In American English it's treated as a plural so "Maths" is redundant. It would be like using "deers".
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WV8KWevvDsIsguDg by j@annihilation.social
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       @bajax @nanook @fluffy @p there's way more to it than just that. She's lied about her entire life.I just noticed this about Erika Kirk πŸ˜… what is going on... #erikakirk  [7595182252842061078].mp4
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WV8k5bt72DaWEffU by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanookerika.mp4
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WV9Km3UmNTMaN4pE by judgedread@poa.st
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       @p 'You're telling me!'
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WWayfVNRbWrm3KG8 by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @judgedread @p :elonsmile: :dog-dog-dance:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WWgYHiNsA4mBaDDM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread I feel like I'm missing something.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WWiMnq2oPDkFTRpo by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @irie @p :senko: no clanker ever told me i wrote a wall of text!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WWvok7TWymAE9FpI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @irie Yeah, but why would you write a wall of text?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WWwJEe6bDsjaf3ZY by not_br549@jollyville.net
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       1 = 1
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WX1JwIumLGMlTIf2 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @not_br549 @j @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy That's a tautology.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WXMCyC1SJqpdJatc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @not_br549 @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm That is to say, strictly speaking, it does not express a relation between quantities but does indirectly assert identity, thus indirectly making a metamathematical assertion about the nature of quantities.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WXNoFIutpYjN59oO by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @bajax @j @nanook @pwm ```Meng Qiu Zhen continued to spout nonsense: β€œNine is the perfect number, nine times nine represents the concept of countless and boundless, the multiplication method is the rule of all beings, the extreme profundity of the natural order, those who lack aptitude cannot comprehend it. Come, let me teach you the first killer move β€” One Times One is One!”The young man held his breath, he listened attentively and muttered to himself: β€œOne times one is one, one times one is one, one times one is one.”Not long after, at the final scene....His disciple was constantly suppressed, without a choice, he had to give up on his strongest raging emotion killer move and use the nine-nine multiplication table method instead.Immortal killer move β€” Eight Times Eight Is Eighty-Eight!After a long time of fighting, his disciple finally used his killer move.Cough!He had just activated the killer move when it failed immediately, he suffered a backlash and became gravely injured.β€œThis killer move is wrong! Master, don’t tell me you…” The disciple looked at Meng Qiu Zhen in disbelief.β€œOh my foolish little disciple, I’ll tell you the real name of this killer move β€” Eight Times Eight Is Sixty-Six!” Meng Qiu Zhen snickered coldly as he attacked viciously[1].````image.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WXYxOlECyWInoxzE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @bajax @j @nanook @pwm That reads like a robot wrote it but the drawing is appealing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WaUxNrdj0sxgBaCW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @bajax @j @khayyam @nanook @pwm No, math is like data or rice or rain.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WahDRhkPfEFfpNhY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @wgiwf @fluffy @j @bajax @pwm @nanook Yeah.  Yes, in America "math" is a mass noun like "sand" or "water", whereas in England, "math" is the plural of "meth".
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WaqTkKVpchPexMQK by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @irie i type fast so it just happens
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WasupslUmo0biQXg by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @bajax @j @nanook @pwm it is an excerpt from a chinese fantasy martial arts (xianxia) novel of some renown (Reverend Insanity).
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WaxeLvTbVuKpxefQ by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread Idk I made burritos and took a nap since then so I can't remember the context
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Wb0wXKKFqXbGrdlA by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread Crazy women and then there was a picture of Elon Musk holding a fox and looking at mushroom clouds on the earth.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WciTctH526dGmyKO by yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe
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       @p @j @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy Huh? In Britain, we say "Put a few thousand rices in the pan, please."
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WckE6jwX5757aKqe by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @yomiel @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm Whereas in Australia, they'd use a barbie.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WcldI5nYr9TWZ87c by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread I mean...couple dudes hanging out on the internet
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Wcn1FwBKES5kDchc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread How you doin', dude?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WcnbEmP6hFgZxCtc by judgedread@poa.st
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       @p It was the only pic of Elon I had. Joke was about difficulty finding smart woman who isn't crazy. 'You're telling me!'
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WcqaHKQReva3ZM3M by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @judgedread Ah, okay.  I mean, one of his kids is a furry, so, like...all I'm sayin', man.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WjUQ8KAEJRQLji1g by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread meh chillin.  I got that new pi ai hat. Pretty cool.Been hanging in doors because its freezing out. You still a nomad?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WjiwHfQQYBBx1sXY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread >  I got that new pi ai hat. Pretty cool.What is it?  I haven't heard about it.> Been hanging in doors because its freezing out. Ha, yeah, here too.> You still a nomad? Well, I'm in one place 2.5 months so far.  I have no plans to move elsewhere at present.  Just hacking on my shit, blocking all Chinese IPs, and tryna scare up some work.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WjjNajtcqhsv9zW4 by yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe
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       @p @j @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy I'll slip some extra rices on the barbie for ya!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WjlZmTY12uGhhHgu by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @yomiel @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm :gordonsmug:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Wp8HWQ6F024QpjY8 by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @ins0mniak @judgedread>"You still a nomad?"You need beer, smokes and gas help big P?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WpqHKMBUHQD0AcUK by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread yeah its new. Can run language models do visual stuff with the camera. Pretty fun stuff.>Chinese ip Yeah those guys are annoying. Persistent.Sounds like you're doing about what I'm doing man, tho I'm not trying very hard. Im being a slacker and a half
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WqBiuoo879qwS0Ke by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread > Can run language models do visual stuff with the camera. Pretty fun stuff.That does sound fun but it's like..."can run" is complicated with a lot of this stuff.  The RK3588s apparently have NPUs but good luck getting that to work unless you want to download an OS image full of proprietary blobs, you know?> Sounds like you're doing about what I'm doing man, tho I'm not trying very hard.Let's talk business before too long.> Im being a slacker and a half :lebowski:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2WqDxMw2abPG6fPJg by judgedread@poa.st
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       @p I'd react to your poast in a funny way but nothing is working.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XKtpqnNi6yjDWFhg by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @nanook @fluffy nah his lapel mic was planned with explosives
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XKtqgCIbEDIdZIp6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook The State of Utah is trying to execute that kid.  I think the coroner would notice the burn marks.  Too many people would have to be on the take.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XOgKujUV52pgBBrM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm It's not singular, it's a mass noun.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XOjoZFhEF1fbn5Mm by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @pwm ANY TIME THAT HAPPENS, OBEY THEM.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XR6L99RsVkzWS1Uu by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @pwm @fluffy I've long ago lost the context.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XR6gyGJ2sAg7WdZw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax @pwm Math, we're talkin' about math.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XRAVSv1dce9XgS80 by A5vV5XjiPtpzHGIAz2.graf@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @bajax @pwm @fluffy that guy cooked his brain a long time ago brother
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XV4jrIzwYus8azA0 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @pwm @fluffy Ok, well I'm working on a website right now to bring information together on how we can move into the future and have adequate energy and economical well-being without destroying the planet and without ie being a zero-sum game where the only way for one nation to prosper is for another to stagnate, so haven't been paying close attention.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2XVIcyrMrCDatkfyK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax @pwm Nuclear plants and outlaw JavaScript.  Sorted.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YSC4LX7QiNjgUwU4 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p Ha ha, actually I do believe nuclear plants are a large part of the short term solution but one particular type of nuclear reactor, a molten salt fast-flux breeder reactor.  The reason being a combination of inherent safety by the very physics of the plant, it's relative efficiency, it's lack of need for water, it's lower physical land requirements relative to other plant types, and it's ability to use long term actinide waste from existing plants as fuel, recover more than 20x as much energy from the waste as the original plant did from the fuel, produce waste that isn't bomb grade or readily made into bomb grade material, do reprocessing on site so little opportunity for terrorists to intercept transport, among other things.As for outlawing JavaScript, I would extend that to any language using garbage collection for memory management and any interpretive language that didn't use at least a just in time compiler with caching.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YSpMcn5twpidJ7aK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy No, if the Libyans can't get their hands on plutonium, the DeLorean will not do anything but smoke and crap out when it hits 88 miles per hour.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YSqdgP9omMuibcga by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread Yeah so, it has a few they recommend running that seem to work ok. Although one thought Nixon was still president lol.Its fun for what it is, you have a little pi with some relatively decent capabilities. The hat it self has 8g or ram on it so combined with a 16g pi it so its surprisingly powerful all things considered. Unlike that nvdiia dev board I cant do certain things like having hashcat play with it and such.Ive actually got a pretty high end camera for the visual stuff that so far seems to work...idk I need to get my head around it a bit more. It can recognize my cat tho.I also picked up one of those arduino uno Q boards....no idea what to do with it but its cool.>Let's talk business before too longyeah well do biz
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YUi5RglcAMJulwWm by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @ins0mniak @judgedread > The hat it self has 8g or ram on it so combined with a 16g pi it so its surprisingly powerful all things considered. UnlikeFun shit.> I also picked up one of those arduino uno Q boards....no idea what to do with it but its cool.You press enter to trust the plan.> yeah well do biz I have thoughts.04_the_link.mp3
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YWhoJ4gmFX4ajsbQ by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @nanook @fluffy They are trying to do the same thing to Luigi even though the evidence is really pointing to that he is just some guy :luigi_dance: After George Floyd I don't give a fuck what coroners say
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YWoj1AkbpkhIf8l6 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook You don't think the kid would say something like "This has nothing to do with me at all"?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YWqCuH6uytgY8vmS by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @j @p @bajax @fluffy @nanook is FSE dead? Site isn't loading the past few days. P is HELLBOUND!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YWwbE9bGB8qsUOkC by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @mkultra @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook FSE itself?  Like, media.fse is blocking China but FSE shouldn't be blocking as many IPs.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YY95O5OI3foyeXMe by not_br549@jollyville.net
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       Yah, we used to fish for tautology off of Stellwagon Bank in Cape Cod Bay.  Them's good eatin', they used to serve 'em batter dipped and deep fried at the Clam Shack in Falmouth.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YYXqmcpGl1lawJE0 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @not_br549 @j @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy Tonight I dine on turtle soup.turtle_monster_truck.jpeg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2YZ2biIu9PI0QaHkO by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
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       @p @judgedread
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJ1unL4UbwmrXzRw by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 I wish I still had monster_truck.webm
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJAEoaWMCzCA6H2G by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Did you ever upload it to bae.st?  I probably have it if so.special_message_from_kenichiro_takaki.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJAhUjtEYw902Kci by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @nanook @fluffy not if it aligns with his delusions. From his point of view he's being called a hero.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJM4nvZ9oHcfR6uW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook I remain unconvinced.  Why would you make a dude's microphone explode and find a kid to manipulate into taking the fall when you could just manipulate the kid into actually doing the shooting?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJZG2N75oME3TgLw by j@annihilation.social
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       @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @nanook @p I don't think so
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJbooim2MoflJWeO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @nanook FSE cannot be killed.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJoKeyD1eWuEihBg by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy That's one of the beautys of molten salt breeder reactors, they do create plutonium isotopes but not ones suitable for bomb making.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJoLK5k8XuxlxXHc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy That's probably why almost no one's making them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJsDQR34DxcwlzUW by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy I'm not going to guess at what the kid would say, 99% of the text posted here is so totally non-sequitur that it makes speculation random at best.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJsDvHCOtVAbCcYy by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax Friendica must be bad at threads.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZJt7FNVMeaks1x20 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy I'm not excited about censorship in general, else I wouldn't be running friendica.eskimo.com, hubzilla.eskimo.com, mastodon.eskimo.com, yacy.eskimo.com, nextcloud.eskimo.com, but to the degree a country insists on censorship, I'd rather the Chinese approach of blocking IPs than the EU approach of trying to fine operators not even in their jurisdiction.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZKfDbp9cScO1Sz1U by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax Did the EU try to fine you?I'm blocking IPs because of an incredibly aggressive scraper, like, saturate-the-pipe aggressive, like "how does anyone have half a million IPs, how much is this guy paying for this shit?" aggressive, like "Holy shit, I'm glad this guy is just a scraper and not, like, Mirai 2.0" aggressive.  That level of aggressive.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZScg67Zp7BVUwAl6 by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @p @j @bajax @nanook @fluffy here is the error I been getting for 4 daysIMG_20260123_085159.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZSdqZi6lZ4I7KosK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook If you just close those, does it let you post?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZSebkIjCxkaZeRPM by MagicMoshe@annihilation.social
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       @mkultra @p @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook I was getting that for a couple of days too, OK on my end now.sheeeit.mp4
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZT9J2sJ1Y7ZFye3s by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @MagicMoshe @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @p waaaahh!!! Are we having FUN yet??!1769128122207075.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTCJcmbon4EUCwr2 by MagicMoshe@annihilation.social
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       @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @p fo sho.Doom.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTDCwsumY9ol2HK4 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy I think it part of the reason until recently, but I think at this point the major powers have enough nuclear materials, too much waste, and the public's discomfort with unsafe boiling water reactors are changing this.  China has one in operation now.  Also, metals with sufficient corrosion resistance and temperature tolerance have only recently been identified.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTP0LdadhIDDErtQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy Well, one thorium salt reactor is an experiment, not a plan.  I like thorium salt reactors but I don't see a lot of interest from the organizations that could be making them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTREfFKjNbBzTTcG by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy Friendica is primarily a linear system but it does thread replies.  Hubzilla is better if you want to have channels but the protocol for channels only federates with other Hubzillas.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTePjlTZRPIas7aS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax > Friendica is primarily a linear system but it does thread replies.I haven't used it, but my experience interacting with Friendica/Hubzilla people is that they have trouble reading long enough threads.  Pleroma's FE, as well as bloat and FediBBS, all present thread structure.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZTeyiDRJzxlvPsX2 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy What do you consider aggressive in terms of hits/second?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUAeW43zFkOypuGO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax If the entire pipe on the dedi has been saturated and normal operations have been not just impeded but effectively DDoS'd, and if I blocked 500k uniques in a month (not counting the blanket ban on all PRC IPs a few days ago) and I'm still blocking at least one per second, 24 hours a day, I'd say it's extremely aggressive.  A high number of reqs/second isn't necesarily aggressive, a low number isn't necessarily innocuous.They are way more difficult to stop than BoardReader was ( https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/fse-vs-fbi.html ) but they are somewhat less aggressively DDoSing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUBqRLDTRbflCBAu by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @MagicMoshe @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook @p @Godsend YAAAAHH!!!!1769107607638695.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUHBCZS5ItVnpYbg by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy I apologize but I don't understand what it is you are referring to with respect to closing those.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUHBdVpur2rMR4bI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajaxclosethose.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUME0gREm3fZfz28 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy They first built an experimental reactor and are now constructing a full scale power version of same.  The experimental reactor was to test corrosion, addition of new fuel and extraction of fission products while running, etc, it worked, so now on to the power version.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZURLwmM8bJjYIM64 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy Yeah, I'm just saying, they have one.  I'd like if we had more but one is one.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUSHgTgu1Ynn79k0 by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @fluffy the chinese are interested in making them because they have a fuckton of coal (a significant source of thorium) and the process heat of a molten salt reactor is very close to the temperature needed to process coal fractionation into liquid hydrocarbons (something else china needs plenty of)
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUV91sKHJIpPUFAO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DemonSixOne @nanook @fluffy That's interesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUVeOHj0ei5tD4ts by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy No not the case, friendica and hubzilla are both long form macro blogging platforms, the maximum post size is configurable and also a function of your PHP configuration but on my site it is set to 5GB, the Bible is around 14MB of text for contrast.  But aside from the site configuration, the maximum post size of your PHP configuration is also an issue and I think defaults to around 8MB, but I have mine set to 5G to allow attachments as large as a full DVD.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUryWzWXy6vfvZcO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax Well, there's post size and there's thread structure.  Mastodon attempts to show a thread as a single, linear thing; it does this by hiding other subthreads.  PleromaFE links up and down so you see a linear (chronological by the order the server received them) string of messages, but you can navigate threads in terms of the thread's structure.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUzYmr7jvNOyxsbA by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy Consider some UFW rules like these: -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp ! --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j DROP-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name http_limit --hashlimit-above 60/sec --hashlimit-burst 120 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW http SYN Flood Detected] "-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name http_limit --hashlimit-above 60/sec --hashlimit-burst 120 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j DROP-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name https_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW https SYN Flood Detected] "-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name https_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j DROP-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8090 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name yacy_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW https SYN Flood Detected] "-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8090 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name yacy_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j DROP-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8090 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name yacys_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW https SYN Flood Detected] "-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -m hashlimit --hashlimit-name yacys_limit --hashlimit-above 150/sec --hashlimit-burst 300 --hashlimit-mode srcip --hashlimit-srcmask 32 -j DROP-A ufw-before-input -p tcp --syn --dport 8443 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUzZFZOytQq2OoM4 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax > Consider some UFW rulesI don't use UFW, just iptables; ufw is like a set of barely working filters in front of iptables.  But it's not a matter of correctly blocking, like...why would I be blocking 8443 if I'm not exposing that port to the world?I mean, have a look at that blog post, I'm a little ahead of the game on this one.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZUzwCs3BOs2KJTqC by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy I'm guessing a potential database error.  Might try something like:mariadb-repair database
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVTaccrk6pmSV0AC by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax @mkultra @DiamondMind> mariadb-repair databaseGuaranteed not to work, because I'm not using that database (it's Postgres, and it doesn't have the same issues that MyISAM/InnoDB have), and if it were a database error, probably someone else would be seeing it by now.  Error rate for the last 100k requests is 0.82%.What is happening is probably some bullshit issue we have on occasion where a malformed post causes the frontend to give up.  Usually what fixes the issue is filling up the timeline to bump the problems out of the first page.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVftyejG5nHjfrvs by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy It's one more than we have.  We've built on before but fix or six decades ago, that was built with Hastalloy and there were some corrosion issues.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVfuZAXVId6yl1qS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy > It's one more than we have.Well, one's one.  That's all I'm saying.  If they can scale it up, that's good.  Maybe they can't.  Whatever.  One's an experiment, a prototype, it's one.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVnOy1uKt1QRxR0y by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy Mastodon is a Microblogging forum, in the same vein as twitter, and is limited to 500 characters per post.  Friendica and Hubzilla do not have this limit, max is configurable, and replies are threaded, but the number that appear on a post and the number of posts on a page are both configurable items, I have mine set to around 100 each but many sites set the values lower if their machine is not robust enough to format and display a large number.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVnPQkBZr4rVOMls by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax > Mastodon is a Microblogging forum, in the same vein as twitter, and is limited to 500 characters per post. Friendica and Hubzilla do not have this limitThe number of characters per post is not related to the data and UI correctly modeling the structure of the thread in which those posts appear.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZVo4Q7mmilzSPwzw by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy UFW just adds iptable rules, it does not matter if you put them in by hand or via ufw.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZW4H3Ab2VrnIPJFQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax UFW rules turn into iptables rules and I it has some sort of fail2ban integration and I have never seen UFW work properly on any machine where it's set up, so I don't use it.As noted, though, it's not really got to do with "too many connections on 443" but differentiating between legitimate traffic and the problem traffic.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZWDomeXr3b1VETh2 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy Ok well wasn't clear from context which software you were referring to as I did not recognize the format of the message.  Still it sounds like something local.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZWDpEerjSUQMKqLQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @DiamondMind @fluffy @bajax The backend has accepted a post that the frontend chokes on.  That's the issue, that's all.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZWelQR8hAIQUgpYe by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy The Chinese pattern has always been build one, prove it works, built a thousand so I am confident that they will.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZWelwLE4ga1RcJHs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy > The Chinese pattern has always been build one, prove it works, built a thousand so I am confident that they will.That is how scale works, yes.  That's not the Chinese method, that's everyone's method."It works" and "It works at scale" and "We can build the scale" are all different questions and they did the first one.  If they do the rest, sure, that's great.  I'm interested in cheap nuclear energy.  As far as the likelihood that they do or do not do this, a nuclear power plant is not like building a cell phone.  Maybe unforeseen problems occur.  Maybe they don't.Right now, though, no one has built thorium salt reactors at scale.  That's it.  I understand you would like them to be real and viable and I would like them to be real and viable but that has yet to be demonstrated so I am waiting.  I am not building nuclear power plants at present so I have no influence on the outcome.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXCHCS1WgmWs80G0 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy I'm at a bit of a loss as to understanding exactly what you are trying to communicate.  I run a hubzilla and I run a friendica and both are capable of very large posts.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXCHeSLP5fvjEMuO by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax > I'm at a bit of a loss as to understanding exactly what you are trying to communicate. I run a hubzilla and I run a friendica and both are capable of very large posts. This is exactly my point.  Pleroma can display arbitrarily large posts as well.  But the difference between a warehouse and a junkyard is organization.  Data is not different:  it can be architected such that it is easy to follow a thread or not.  Compare the way mutt/Thunderbird/sylpheed/etc. structure email threads versus the way GMail structures them.Case in point, the thread seems to you like a stream of non-sequiturs rather than a branching conversation.  And I say "Threads seem to confuse a lot of Friendica/Hubzilla people." and I think this is the UI.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXPLvTlLzkx5QOtk by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @fluffy Someone better at math than me says that it basically puts the upper limit of liquid hydrocarbon fuels at around $2.50/us gallon for around 200 years or more based on known coal sources while sinking tons (literal) of otherwise radioactive ash that would be produced via conventional steam plants.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXSpriuBKmfzKS24 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DemonSixOne @nanook @fluffy That would be excellent.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXTPqZ7xnaGp42E4 by menherahair@eientei.org
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       @p @bajax @nanook @fluffy >UFW (iptables (nftables))
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXVrMhmmEGCEGKmm by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @menherahair @bajax @fluffy @nanook iptables was not created as a wrapper around nftables.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXWKiKfRlBDhbW1Q by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @p @j @bajax @nanook @fluffy nah nothing works
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXY7t9K7Mo1OWDnE by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook Well what happens when you try to post something?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXeiw8UZmCf63sjQ by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy I am not clear on which software you are referring to, could you clarify for me?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXejM0wMTbxMAY4G by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @DiamondMind @fluffy @bajax FSE runs Pleroma.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXgduq8ARnfXN1jU by mkultra@annihilation.social
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       @nanook @bajax @DiamondMind @fluffy @p @Godsend Nanook is HELLBOUND!!!!thumb (98).png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXi3evu20lngbZ9k by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @mkultra @nanook @DiamondMind @Godsend @bajax @fluffy :twoweeks: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :ono:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXioRPy67wtNdw7E by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @mkultra @bajax @fluffy @j @nanook Browser refresh usually fixes when I see those notifications.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXnL0WpUaF3MDviS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @fluffy @j @mkultra @nanook How often do you see those?At present, I basically never run into errors using bloat.fse, but that's bloat.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXnyHCpQ64qNKIcq by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @menherahair @bajax @p @fluffy Yea I am using nftables as well, running a 6.18.6 kernel so would not make sense to do otherwise.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXpZ6fNfUTMM9mRU by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @p @fluffy Sounds like perhaps you're dropping packets.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXpZdzNm951hkONk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @SilverDeth @bajax He is not dropping packets.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZXq0ishh6N0hFBFw by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @p @fluffy @bajax It's rare, I don't sweat it.  I can read all my obscure internet micro-celebrity mutuals, and reliably so.  And I can say al sorts of fun words.  Perfection.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZY5ev9WzH61eRg3M by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy Because China is more of a cooperation of government and industry they have fewer capitalization constraints and so tend to parallelize efforts more than the US or other nations.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZY5fPdhdf3YCi1ZY by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy Well, that's the PR.  I know where I'd rather live.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZY9rtlDsF7QunkcS by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @bajax @fluffy Well that is the beauty of the fediverse, mostly interoperative and you can use whatever suits you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZY9sNXRA3uvGjX28 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @bajax Sure, I'm just saying, that is the nature of the tradeoffs, so the "non-sequiturs" are a matter of your interface.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZYDyWsVkSJ9n3Zr6 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @menherahair @bajax @fluffy No not originally but since so much infrastructure was invested in iptables nftables has been implented in a way as to provide backward compatibility.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZYDz2mb7yakjz3aK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @menherahair @fluffy @bajax I know what nftables is.I am old as shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZYEqaHXJGQnz43eq by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy Ok that explains why the format was unfamiliar.  I'm afraid I am not familiar enough to be able to help.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZYUs6BfloC8Ud3ke by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @DiamondMind @fluffy @bajax I did not expect you to be able to help with software I have been running in production (with the tachometer in red, no less) for seven years, but it's AGPLv3 so you can see whatever you like:  https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=fse
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZYcXzEKj4g4l2Dzc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy In fact, the clients I use ( https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=fedibbs and https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=bloat ) are also AGPLv3.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZHW2EUghRtbyUJU by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @SilverDeth @bajax @fluffy The only thing a refresh is going to do is resend the same request, so if not dropping packets, something else is intermittent.  It does suggest a resource exhaustion of some sort.  Perhaps run dmesg after a failure and see if the kernel is bitching about anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZHWZCW74TXrOohU by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy @SilverDeth @bajax > The only thing a refresh is going to do is resend the same requestIt sends one request, then that request triggers several others.  One of the things is that the UI is reinitialized because Pleroma does most (nearly all) of its UI client-side, so if something made the UI crash, refreshing fixes it.> so if not dropping packets, something else is intermittentYes, something else.  As previously noted, the backend accepts data that sometimes crashes the frontend.> It does suggest a resource exhaustion of some sort.Nope.  Sometimes.  That is not the case here.  FSE is mostly idling this time of night.  Weather conditions have caused FSE to fall over a few times.>  Perhaps run dmesg after a failureI appreciate you trying to help debug software that you have never run but I don't think you're going to be able to help much.idle.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZIJ6W3YF055M6IC by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy There are aspects of China that I find undesirable but their industrial capacity is impressive.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZOtF8bZZ1tyWkNM by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy Sure, but electronics manufacturing is a much more well-understood problem than building nuclear power plants.I'm not saying it won't happen or that they can't do it.  I hope they *can* do it.  I'm just saying that they haven't done it yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZYhZ0sqj2ZgVClc by SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @bajax @fluffy @j @mkultra @nanook Once or twice a month, it's not a big deal.  My assumption is always you're tinkering with something below the hood, and I don't sweat it.Using Brave for now, but I swap browsers a lot.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZZdK8hP1CtNBOk64 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @fluffy @j @mkultra @nanook >  My assumption is always you're tinkering with something below the hood, and I don't sweat it.Sometimes it's that, sometimes it's weirdness in the hops between here and the datacenter or the datacenter to you.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZbZwrbgUQSDxvCIi by romin@shitposter.world
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       @p @bajax @DiamondMind @fluffy bloatfe is CC0
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Zbg7Lxb5gQUj3peC by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @romin @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy Holy *fucking* shit:  https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=bloat;a=blob;f=COPYING;h=017543f990006ac6f8f499a1fb767e75d1ce9e30;hb=HEADI think r told me that at some point but it was so weird it slipped my mind.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZbmJf2kZ78P6wUhk by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @romin @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–“β–‘β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’ You are not expected to understand this. β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’β–’[:gnujihad: The AGPLv3 is what makes FediBBS so powerful. :gnu_interjection:]fedibbs-2025-12-31_2312.tgz
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZdKvVEf4QDZIQF2O by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy This may be generally true but the physics of a nuclear plant are not all that difficult to understand, the main challenges are material and chemistry and those have been mostly worked out by third parties (chemistry Kirk Sorensen), materials (Copenhagen Atomics), so not really any exotic problems.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZdKxJxtwaxCvAGkS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy I have heard you say that you think it is going to be easy.  If it were easy, they'd already have a thousand plants.  Unless Kirk Sorensen stood up a thousand plants, it's all unproven.Making one of something is very different from making a hundred of it.  I will believe that they can make a hundred when they make a hundred.  Right now, it seems possible, it may even seem plausible, but it is not *done*.  Telling me that they can is not going to affect my belief in whether or not they will do it, and there is no reason to convince me, since neither of us can affect the outcome.There is also no reason:  if you are reasonably convinced, then I will agree with you in a couple of years.  There's no reason to hurry, is there?  Do I need to have a positive belief in the practicality of scaling up thorium reactors *before* the thorium reactors are scaled up?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZdLJs63iy999Iq0G by romin@shitposter.world
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       @p @bajax @DiamondMind @fluffy haven't had yet the time to test it but I'll read it soonℒ️
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZdcAe3cFexSDlshc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @romin @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy > haven't had yet the time to test itssh-keygen && rlwrap ssh bbs@fsebugoutzone.org# Paste a token, you know, it will let you put in a password but you wanna paste a token, especially if you're wusing rlwrap.> but I'll read it soonℒ️ It's fun to shitpost about.  It's also a really fun client to use.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZfxLE3fk6EG7piKW by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy First, we built and operated one at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in 1965 and operated it for four years, during which time on experiment that was done was to pull the control rods for maximum reactivity and turn off the cooling.  It was allowed to run in this mode for 24 hours, no damage resulted.  So since it's already been done 60 years ago physically it is not that difficult.  That said, this was a military test reactor and it was decided to pursue a uranium fuel cycle rather than thorium because we just didn't have enough plutonium to blow enough shit up quite yet.  So to be clear it's already been done but not scaled up to commercial power levels, the Chinese will be the first to do that.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ZfxLl1hATFuNG2iW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy Okay, here, like, this is the clearest I am able to be on the topic:  I am not going to agree with you that a thing that I do not believe to be certain is certain.  I hope that thing works out but it has not worked out yet.  The only thing you can say to change my mind on the topic is "They have just built the 100th thorium salt reactor".  So far, what we have is a viable prototype:  that's good news.  If it's trivial like you keep insisting, then we'll have a hundred in no time flat.  I will believe it when I see it.  I hope I see it.> So to be clear it's already been done but not scaled up to commercial power levels, the Chinese will be the first to do that.Maybe.  It doesn't look like anyone else will do it before they do.  The first energy-positive fusion reaction just happened a the big fusion reactor in Europe:  that's encouraging, too.  A lot of interesting things are happening and if any of them pans out, it'll be really cool.  None of them have panned out yet.I do not see the urgency.  My belief does not influence the outcome.  So there are no stakes, there's no urgency.  I have no reason to form a belief in either direction.  It is definitely possible based on what I currently know, which is why I say "I will believe it when I see it" and not "That's bullshit and will never happen."
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aMVtUKzHR8RXbdgm by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       I'm fairly convinced that the reason we don't have cheap power is more or less entirely a political matter.If you try to build one in a 1st world country, there's so much regulation that it's just not going to happen.If you try to build one in a non-1st world country, you're gonna get bombed because "muh nuclear proliferation".China is working on it, but they're probably facing quiet international backlash because once the cat's out of the bag, everyone is going to want one...It's basically like Free Energy suppression, except it actually happens.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aN8d9Texyd4QJtei by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @nanook @fluffy > I'm fairly convinced that the reason we don't have cheap power is more or less entirely a political matter.Well, there's logistics, right, like, some metals are hard to get.  And as @DemonSixOne pointed out, thorium is a byproduct of coal-mining, right, easier to get than uranium but not quite as easy as the rest.> get bombed because "muh nuclear proliferation".Well, on the other hand, please name a third-world country that you think should have fissile material.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aNBkHza0Su4imvDs by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @p @nanook >I'm fairly convinced that the reason we don't have cheap power is more or less entirely a political matter.it's a matter of finance. as an intern, i ran numbers for an investment firm my first year of grad school.it's really just not profitable to build nukes. they take a long time to build and they cost a lot.if it was possible to make cheap power, you could just do it, nobody is stopping you from putting down a power plant on a strip of land, i worked with solar farms a few years ago there is basically no barrier to entry for those guys you just pay the money and wire it into the grid.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aNo5UFDRdap3nlpY by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @cjd @p @fluffy Regulation is a big issue but regulation that was appropriate for a boiling water reactor is not appropriate for a molten salt reactor because the former is an inherently unstable and only marginally safe by automation design with several explosive failure modes widely distribution radioactive material, where as a molten salt reactor is a reactor design safe by physics with no manual or automatic responses necessary and no explosive failure mode to distribute radioactives.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aNo60VHVRSR6tX72 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @cjd @fluffy Well, all the water reactors built have been fail-safe instead of fail-deadly.  The reaction stops instead of going critical.  That having been said, it seems like thorium salt is safer so it's a good idea.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aQNFw6YbJfH4jMHI by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy You can believe whatever you like.  I'm familiar with the physics and tech. I have no idea what your background is.  Logically you only need one instance of something to prove it possible, we've got two so far.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aQNGNOv79OdjV9pA by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy > I'm familiar with the physics and tech. I have no idea what your background is.Also familiar, and also aware of the difference between "we have one of something" and "it's everywhere".  You ever read the early RFCs?  Took a long time to go from prototype to production, and the early RFCs are more or less the transition period between production and ubiquity.>  Logically you only need one instance of something to prove it possible, we've got two so far. *Logistically*, a prototype is not production.  The physical principles have been demonstrated:  building a production model is a different thing and building at scale is yet another different thing.  It's the difference between a team of guys finely tuning a single thing versus an assembly line cranking out a hundred finely tuned things.  Multiply this by the number of finely tuned things you need to put into a nuclear plant.  Nobody has made a hundred thorium salt reactors yet:  there exist unknown unknowns.  Maybe there are no black swans and everything goes smoothly; maybe there are and it doesn't.  Nuclear engineering is, at present, an extreme field of engineering:  it's not a dude trying to figure out how to make the bridge stop galloping, it's closer to the dude trying to figure out how to get LIDAR to Europa.  (Really fascinating:  https://hackaday.com/2017/01/19/steve-collins-when-things-go-wrong-in-space/ .)If it's trivial, they'd already be everywhere.  Process doesn't scale yet.  When we dropped the first nuclear bomb, that was one of three bombs that existed.  The first one we had tested in the desert, then we had two more, we dropped one, then we dropped the other, and we said we'd keep dropping them but that was a bluff:  estimates were that it would take about a year to build a fourth.  Process didn't scale yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aQNxEhZKk3ZClJjc by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
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       @fluffy @cjd @nanook @p How much of the cost could be mitigated by a smaller and safer build? I bet if we get the trailer sized reactors that can be built in a plant somewhere and dropped into a sarcophagus on site Γ  la modular housing, they can become extremely affordable. Perfect way to power a remote city or building, no?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRFdDiChOD7rtWEa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @BowsacNoodle @fluffy @cjd @nanook The Soviets did this.  I don't know for certain the fate of the project; I've heard shit like "they're all leaky and some of them still work" and I haven't looked into it.One issue, and you hit this issue with nuclear batteries in probes and satellites because you don't have the ability to get rid of heat the same way you can on earth, is that with a nuclear reaction, you don't get to slow down, you can't, like, shovel more or less coal:  there's heat or electricity coming out of the thing, you've gotta figure out what to do with it during off-peak hours.  A lot of plants just supplement with gas generators for peak hours and use the nuclear plant for the base level.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRHCXwLaCoyh6XjM by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       > if it was possible to make cheap power, you could just do itAnd then men with guns come and take away your house.You were doing the math on a pressurized water reactor, and all of the safety equipment that is expected when you have hot radioactive stuff under high pressure.If you use molten fuel (not even a thorium breeder, just plain old boring uranium), you have no pressure to deal with, you could use ceramic pipes, a ceramic Archimedes pump, so basically you need beryllium and lithium fluoride, ceramic clay, u233, high purity graphite, a boiler & steam turbine, and lots and lots of concrete.None of those things are that costly. They're not *cheap*, but they're not expensive in comparison to being able to crank out like 30kw of power all day and all night.If it weren't for regulation, there'd be youtubers doing this, I'm sure of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRYNGNktxv8e53iq by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @fluffy @nanook > They're not *cheap*, but they're not expensive in comparison to being able to crank out like 30kw of power all day and all night.Well, devil's advocate, U-233 is definitely expensive, but you've gotta staff the damn things and 24-hour coverage with a team of nuclear energy specialists can't be cheap.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRZKaHCZw57QqHQG by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @BowsacNoodle @cjd @nanook @p >smalleryou'll always have fixed costs, such as staff on hand. nukes actually benefit the most from being bigger
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRa8ZHMYqa8olBoG by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       Yes, BWR and PWR are fairly dangerous by design so a lot more costly to make safe. But IMO even those are over-regulated.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRamkfxbjMlkOr7w by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_modular_reactorPredictably, only Russia and China have them, because they're the only ones who care about having cheap power AND are tolerated to have nuclear weapons.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRbwS3NncF8qF064 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
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       @fluffy @nanook @p @cjd I’m sure they do, but distributed small reactors could be remotely monitored and serviced by a team that drives to the site as needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aRcg1NxHcGTS7Luq by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @cjd @p @fluffy I am working on a website to bring information on this and other technologies that can take us into the future together in one place.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSDJOz14sf2HclUW by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @BowsacNoodle @fluffy @nanook This is cool shit.> As of 2025, there were 127 modular reactor designs, with seven designs operating or under constructionHarsh toke.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSPNruEgSsMauQQC by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @cjd @p @fluffy When you consider Chernobyl, Fukushima, this is questionable.  The emphasis is on the wrong things however.  One of those is US regulations require radiation to be as low as possible, as low as possible trends towards infinite expense, but there is no indication that exposures to low levels of radiation is hazardous to human health.  The cancer rates in Denver are not higher than Seattle. So one thing that would reduce expense considerably is if rules were re-written to allow low but non-zero radiation levels.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSPoicPK4vdbltC4 by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @nanook @p >if it weren't for regulation>guys with gunsi can tell you what it looks like on our side: you model it the way you model something like an earthquake, it's just a risk priced into the operational cost. from what i recall, this risk-adjusted cost was not substantial. this directly contradicts your thesis that "guys with guns" regulation is the barrier.>if you use thoriumi've long been aware of internet guys talking about thorium reactors. it wasn't something we had data for.  the tech is interesting, and i hope it takes off and is everything people promise. i also really like the idea of a fusion reactor.one thing i will remark is, if thorium is as good as people are saying, why is nobody building more of them? you can just build power plants: it's not any different from building an apartment complex or running a machine shop, anyone can do it. regulation or not, if it was as incredible as people bill it, people would be building them en masse, you couldn't stop me from building ten thorium reactors, it's literally free money. but that's not what we see happening.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSUkXXN52C7qwMPA by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       Well, they should at least allow the same levels of radiation as what's emitted by other sources such as coal plants.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSVBYsuB9fvqmJkm by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @BowsacNoodle @nanook @p @cjd there's probably some law that requires you to have guys physically on the site when there's a nuke.but it would be pretty cool to have a Mr Fusionimage.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSXAnKjAnU8HU5qq by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @BowsacNoodle @cjd @nanook :docbrown:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aSYJWRlQTbUT86t6 by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 I did and I asked if you had the sha256 but you said you didn't have time to find it
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aT5dQAnl2UlI5GwS by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Okay, yeah.  I am at present in a situation where I can go looking for monster_truck.webm.  Please hold.  I'll kick off a job and it might find it in a minute or it might take a couple of days.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aT80Xho7PR3Djrai by DiamondMind@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @p @romin @bajax @fluffy WAAAHH!!!1769167084903129.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aT9g2R0sBs2LuMHw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DiamondMind @bajax @fluffy @romin :satansmile:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aTDqzuD13pBViUnw by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @cjd @p This is another area where the risks for a molten salt reactor are totally different.  In a boiling or pressurized water reactor, a large earthquake could break plumbing resulting in 300 atmospheres of pressure in the reactor instantly dropping to zero, all coolant flashing to steam and the reactor melting down.  In a molten salt reactor, if plumbing breaks you spill some fuel / salt mixture on the floor, it solidifies and goes nowhere, and since fission products are continuously removed, without the chain reaction there is no heat and the radioactivity is much lower which means someone scoops it up, places it back in the reactor tank, repairs the plumbing and life goes on.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aTEEDrrGtZDTQTGC by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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       @fluffy @cjd @nanook @p I've been fucking around with solar power of about 20 years. Nobody is rushing out to slap down solar farms they are doing it because they are farming other people's money via government grift. Outside of Arizona, some parts of southern California, and maybe New Mexico they make no sense even as a peaker plant at the current cost (and constant availability) of natural gas.Its the same people that have a boner for heatpumps - for most of north america in winter below ~37F it costs less per therm to just burn methane in a furnace than it does to try to work the corner of the COP graph.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aTs6s4btsK01FU80 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DemonSixOne @fluffy @cjd @nanook > southern CaliforniaThe San Francisco occupiers have seized control of the sun in California.  You may not run a solar array unless you are selling power back to the grid.  So you would be able to run one to avoid brownouts, but they want the brownouts (get a good UPS).  So you sell electricity to the grid.  Homeowners don't have a huge reason to install them, and most people are renting anyway so the person that pays the power bill and the person that pays the property tax are not the same guy, so the incentives are misaligned.So, you know, Antarctica.  If you could do something without NIMBYs, it's Antarctica.  They use diesel generators for the most part:  they have some solar panels and some wind turbines, but for most of their power, they use diesel.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aTta8tGYOj4WohTU by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @BowsacNoodle @cjd @p Yea I doubt we'll ever get fusion down to that size because confinement scales with size.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUaC2AmAr2klzdo0 by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       > thoriumThere are two different things here, one is molten fuel and the other is thorium breeding.Molten fuel is a really big deal because you lose the pressure, so then you don't need any pressure vessels, containment, etc. If it's a slow reactor like the MSRE they ran in the 60s, you have a graphite core and hot molten salt with uranium dissolved in it. When the salt passes through the core, the graphite moderates the neutrons which causes reaction and it gets hot, when it's not in the core, it doesn't.The other really big deal about molten fuel is that it's a liquid, so chemists can do chemistry on it, like for example extracting the waste (and just the waste) and then putting the other 95% good fuel back in to run again. PWRs retire fuel pellets when they're no longer good for reacting, which is when they're about 5% degraded.The challenge with molten salt is it corrodes things, and that nobody can get permits to build it. There are like 4 or 5 companies trying to build them in the west and it's all just held up on permits.Thorium is a whole other topic. The thing about thorium is that it's really really abundant, and if you bombard it with neutrons, it will transform into uranium 233. So people have the idea of surrounding the reactor with a layer of thorium to absorb the wasted neutrons and convert it whilst running the normal uranium reaction. But this is not necessary for molten salt, it's just a stretch goal. Uranium is already like $60 a pound which is basically dirt cheap for the amounts you actually need.The MSRE did not breed thorium, but Alvin Weinberg (administrator of the MSRE and also inventor of everybody's favorite PWR) suggested that it could.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUdevtmsaLFZiANM by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @cjd @p everyone in this thread knows how a molten salt reactor works. obviously we do, we are talking about them.>the risks... are totally differentwhat units are you using for this measurement?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUfDcmI3vT8MVlXU by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @cjd @p @fluffy That said I favor fast spectrum because although thorium will breed efficiently with slow spectrum most even actinides require faster neutrons, so to burn up existing actinide waste we need fast spectrum.Second advantage, fast spectrum doesn't require a graphite moderator, which is flammable and potentially a chernobyl.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUgTuXDuTZw1Q32u by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @cjd @p Can you be specific, which measurement are you referring to?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUh3KdWr9Rn6tt5c by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @nanook @p >nobody can get permits to build it. There are like 4 or 5 companies trying to build them in the west and it's all just held up on permits.at the risk of being called SO AMERICAN yet again... if it really was very profitable, permits wouldn't be holding them up. in the united states at least, there is a lot of corruption. you can lobby and get the permits you want. these investments would not be held up on permits if they looked to be an avenue for cheap power.that's not to say that you can always bribe and lobby, in some places you just will have bad luck, but someone would find a place to build one.of course, i don't have some specialized knowledge of the state of molten salt reactor lobbying, maybe it really just is a massive barrier, there are industries like that. but there is not a lot that promises of huge bags of money will fail to accomplish, i am somewhat skeptical that the improvement is very substantial if they cannot even successfully bribe bureaucrats.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aUoy50wJOloqMqPI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @cjd @nanook > at the risk of being called SO AMERICAN yet againIs that a risk?  If someone says that to you, you double-down on whatever it is you're doing because you're clearly onto something *awesome*.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aVdgLicYs1b6MZwO by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @cjd @p yes. please make precise this statement:>the risks for a molten salt reactor are totally differenti am, of course, being cheeky here. you don't know how to measure risk and i am laughing at you. you should stick to jokes (?) about making babies with chatgpt.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aVeilT7tUnNUu2xk by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DemonSixOne @cjd @nanook @p the grift is absolutely real.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aVh3aUg5sCXRspUG by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @fluffy @nanook @cjd> jokes (?) about making babies with chatgptI'd rather fuck qwen3.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aVoSNwsZZHTSXn9s by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @cjd @p You can measure in says deaths per million operation years, but you're talking hypothetical.  To date nuclear power has fewer deaths per twh of any power source.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aVoSuYvJej6bnpzc by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @cjd @fluffy> deaths per million operation yearsI mean, that's one kind of risk.  "Price of materials goes up" is another.  "Availability of materials tapers" is another.  There are a lot of mundane risks that don't involve Chernobyl.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aXwvB9uOMH08j2yO by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       > Well, on the other hand, please name a third-world country that you think should have fissile material.Well, given they'd probably all use them on each other... 😏
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aY2wS45cVmgaVJbs by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @cjd @nanook @fluffy @DemonSixOne > Well, given they'd probably all use them on each other... 😏I'm downwind of some of them, you know.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aYJrUplb1YEwrq40 by bajax@baj.ax
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       @p @nanook @fluffy @cjd asian fetish?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aYUUwxvw5pV266u8 by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @bajax @cjd @fluffy @nanook Every living dude likes skinny girls with clear skin and spicy cooking.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aYeGS4gzSRQiIztA by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @fluffy @cjd Yeah you use nuclear + a battery and maybe solar or something to handle weird times. We just still need better battery tech.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aZxOCODHeIufeUmO by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @fluffy @cjd I know the Australians have a 30kW array at their Antarctica station. I imagine there are challenges related to the low sun angle (basically the panels need to be 90 degrees from the ground) which isn't ideal with the high winds common to the continent.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aa1ChktExwQI8sQy by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @DemonSixOne @nanook @fluffy @cjd Yeah, something like 11% of their power comes from wind.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aaMyc5xgaJ5fsQ2S by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @khayyam @bajax @cjd @fluffy @nanook I disagree but this is a matter of taste.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aaNHjWsGowOEV7lQ by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 thank youIt might be .MP4It's one of the twoI think webm tho
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aaQjbRiDVfh8MgsK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm > It might be .MP4:alexjoneswat2: Okay, I will modify rejjex.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aaS0JR4X2lo9XvGq by bajax@baj.ax
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       @khayyam @nanook @fluffy @p @cjd we're not still talking about llms are we
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abE9fda9RCjPtInY by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 nah it's webm https://bae.st/media/71c68686e40cdfa8a570d8323f7535a8475e8d17a1bbe09959007040085c4a8e.webm?name=monster_truck.webm
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abPNCHdBVZrvVgfo by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm That simplifies things significantly but it will still take a minute.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abPPDm6btE98DuHA by Ree@shitposter.world
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       @j @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 I thought base was dead
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abSafE1BtwVJa6ue by j@annihilation.social
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       @Ree @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 nah go to bae.st
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abVONAAoqDFgT8uu by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @Ree @bajax @fluffy @not_br549 @pwm Server is currently down because some crawler found links to bae.st from *other* sites and was flooding FSE.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abfI9EAiWQqGfgRM by Ree@shitposter.world
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       @j @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 This site can’t be reached
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abflLdbegFP9hVJI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @Ree @j @bajax @fluffy @not_br549 @pwm It's in cold storage, I'm rezzing.:venomsnake2: I won't see you end as ashes.neckbeard_returns.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abgDSL6Kg6a33Fdw by j@annihilation.social
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       @Ree @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 :pressf: It uses to redirect herehttps://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/revolver-kickoff.html
       
 (DIR) Post #B2abjIGDh7TMLlqllo by Ree@shitposter.world
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       @j @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 don't see it
       
 (DIR) Post #B2afYotOQgjsBfQzJI by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Is *this* your card?  https://media.freespeechextremist.com/rvl/full/17e7dd09fc2b4f0155db002c6b167d99f8e022819f7391c8aba6d5ca036283c471c68686e40cdfa8a570d8323f7535a8475e8d17a1bbe09959007040085c4a8e.webm
       
 (DIR) Post #B2afj8aO43oSA3SqXY by j@annihilation.social
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       @Ree @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 I think that's a sign that you're homosexual but I'm not an expert so don't quote me on that
       
 (DIR) Post #B2afkZQBmBXNgCNSV6 by Ree@shitposter.world
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       @j @bajax @pwm @fluffy @p @not_br549 everyone is gay look at women they like dick and that's gay
       
 (DIR) Post #B2agafcFzQOrwyrhkO by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 probably but it's timing out for me
       
 (DIR) Post #B2agdrusiIwiy56NGa by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Are you using an implausible UA that might make my script think you're INSCRUTABLE?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aiyMRZ7jmFLXHxtQ by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 I'm using standard braveDoesn't work with wget either
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aj2gQQm46uTcoqKe by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Try using a non-Chrome-based browser and Tor.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2alXFeGa0EEJbzhqq by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 times out in Firefox too
       
 (DIR) Post #B2alXG6csYuhjZGM3U by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Yeah, because if it killed off your IP then any browser you try will be kill.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2albLDRp1hMjzOsJU by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm Half a million IPs, not counting the blanket icing of China, and all based on heuristics.  I am *certain* that I have made some mistakes.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2alvMwj6AIVtn83gO by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @cjd @p @fluffy Copenhagen Atomics has worked out metallurgy capable of surviving 600C molten salt environments with corrosion rates sufficient for a 100 year reactor lifetime so this issue is essentially solved.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2alwtSXhVbJ1gjnKC by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm it works in tor browser :thumbs_up:monster_truck.webm
       
 (DIR) Post #B2anFn8nW6E4t04qwa by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 F
       
 (DIR) Post #B2anGBA2D9TZNmqBCi by j@annihilation.social
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       @p @bajax @pwm @nanook @fluffy @not_br549 can you whitelist my home IP? It's static.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2anIWJGYE15YPH6Dw by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @bajax @fluffy @nanook @not_br549 @pwm There is basically a 0% chance I will be able to find your IP unless you DM it to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2anlZQe292dcpZvGa by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @j @p @bajax @nanook @not_br549 @pwm white list deez nuts
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aoMuPcyolDQ3uIaG by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @cjd @fluffy Problem with water reactors so called fail-safe it it doesn't work.  The containment vessel is designed to contain flash to steam but won't contain a hydrogen explosion as in Fukushima, safety is active not physics, both of these problems are solved in molten salt reactors.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aoMuu79T9AwcAe6S by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @cjd @fluffy That reactor only had a hydrogen explosion because it was one of the shitty old designs and it was also not rated for those earthquakes.  But it didn't go critical.  Radiation leak from dumping the water, but no fuckin' crater.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ap5hsMRAmzZLhxPk by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy Having one proves the possibility, getting to many is a function of investing in the necessary labor and materials and regulatory infrastructure.  If your choice is make the investment or starve I hope we will make the wiser choice.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ap5iM8eSbn3hdjpQ by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy > getting to many is a function of investing in the necessary labor and materials and regulatory infrastructureIt's another phase of R&D.  The "R" part means anything can happen.  Maybe it does.  Maybe not.  That's it.  You cannot convince me of your prescience:  I will believe in prescience when I see it.>  If your choice is make the investment or starve I hope we will make the wiser choice. Of al the people in charge of nuclear plant licensing and provisioning and regulation and investing and whatnot, not one of them has asked me what I thought.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2b2QlkYWl2J4OQmQ4 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @fluffy @p In a boiling water reactor you have two sources of hydrogen, neutrons occasionally split water into hydrogen and oxygen, this is a minor source and a catalytic combiner keeps up with this source, but when you flash the water to steam it reacts with the zirconium cladding in the fuel rods and this was the source in Fukushima and a problem that can't be designed out of boiling water reactors.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2b30VHREqSAPnqogy by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy All these reactors running 50 years and I'm in favor of thorium salt reactors.  I like them.  I'm just not super worried about something that's only happened to one reactor after it got hit with an earthquake two orders of magnitude higher than it was supposed to.Friend of mine worked in an oil refinery a while and I think *anything* is safer than California's oil refineries.I support your efforts but I remain unconvinced that conventional reactors are so terrible and thorium-salt reactors are still in the design phase.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2b312A8yzE6OjgxP6 by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @BowsacNoodle @cjd @fluffy I extremely don't like modular designs, they are nearly all pebble bed designs in which fuel is encased in silicon carbide.  The problem with this design is burn rate is low because there is no way to remove fission products, there is no way to recover actinides are reprocess them, and so you waste 99% of the fuels energy capacity and end up with a million year waste product.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2b36qEAGoLf7SLFeS by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy I follow the tech close enough to know the major issues are solved.  We really don't have other good immediate options.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bM3buivgfqzFQBWK by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy It's not an immediate option, it's a "see if someone can actually pull it off" option.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bMDBhpE1IibFxGsq by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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       I concur on the pebble bed stuff... GE and Westinghouse always making things more complicated than they need to be in order to bill support.But the promise of modular is orthogonal to whether the fuel is solid or liquid. Being able to assemble a plant out of shipping container sized parts that are built in a factory is a game changer for construction cost...  Also for replacement or decommissioning, you don't need the army corps of engineers to move the things...
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bMUWpRwZ972Cn2W0 by christmasman@poa.st
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       @nanook @fluffy @p I didn't think H2 was as much of a concern in the zircaloy cladding of a BWR as it is in the condensate side of things where hydrogen is more likely to hide out in corners and embrittle welds
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bQ4NtyuWkddThNke by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy I'm not suggesting worrying, I am suggesting if we can make it absolutely safe, and at the same time more fuel efficient, and at the same time eliminate a long term waste issue, and at the same time increase the available fuel by 5000+ times, we should do so.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bQ4OQwvx7fHj7i8e by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy That technology has potential but has not been realized yet.  I am hopeful that that technology pans out.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bQLzJD5OBWZetR2m by nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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       @p @fluffy I disagree, it just takes a consensus that we want to do it and we will get there when people get hungry enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bQLzlvMd9a0iKMng by p@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @nanook @fluffy There are unknown unknowns.  It is still in the R&D phase.  This is how everything works.  It's inviolable.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bSxkMVJ2sN86ZB3I by DemonSixOne@poa.st
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       @p @nanook @fluffy TMSR-1 or whatever its called in chinese works. They literally copied, scaled down and continued the work from Oak Ridge labs 60 years ago, complete with the same FLiBe coolant primary. They succeeded in the first fueling with thorium in late 2024. As far as I know its the most successful Gen IV prototype.The reason that MSR/LFTR tech hasn't been worked on much is two fold. First is the corrosive problem of the fuel, now mostly solved with modern superalloys. The second being that it is impractical to make a bomb with the thorium cycle because inevitable that any U-233 created during the fuel cycle will be significantly contaminated by U-232 which is a real cunt to handle.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bmmUBF7vsaqDCtDE by Leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com
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       @p I think we need to keep technologists away from our precious bodily fluids @nanook @fluffy
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bmqav60lTotyc5wm by fluffy@fsebugoutzone.org
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       @Leyonhjelm @p @nanook is there some way to mute a particular 'branch' of a thread tree? i only see the option to mute the entire conversation, which is undesirable.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2bmqbftCmuVF6VSsq by lichelordgodfrey@poa.st
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       @fluffy @Leyonhjelm @nanook @p Send the particular user of that branch to the shadow realm.