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(DIR) Post #B1sZVJqOZpqWzZZNsO by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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Ready to #deGoogle đŻ per cent?We've reviewed the top five smartphones that help you go Google-free in 2026.@volla @Fairphone @murena #SHIFTphone#Punkt Which one is your favorite?âĄď¸ https://tuta.com/blog/degoogled-phones
(DIR) Post #B1saAIt52SoNtjMuLA by lexinova@toot.community
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena not for me until they secure their thing with modern protection.
(DIR) Post #B1saFb2ey5MleQNBoG by RubenWA@vivaldi.net
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@Tutanota #volla
(DIR) Post #B1saP1HOmo9tdFlCrY by anhnguyennguyen@kanoa.de
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@Tutanota I would love to have a Volla phone someday! I am currently using a Pixel 3a XL, but with Ubuntu Touch on it, so it still takes me a while to completely degoogle. Do you have any plans in the near future to develop a Tuta app for Ubuntu Touch too? It is not quite convenient because I need to use WayDroid to access my Tuta mail.
(DIR) Post #B1sap8xYr2rkyqwEr2 by fdroidorg@floss.social
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@Tutanota Maybe update the Calyx note to avoid/postpone installs until they start providing new versions in the future?
(DIR) Post #B1sawuTQb59sMyXynw by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@fdroidorg Thanks, noted!
(DIR) Post #B1sb0Z0uKKDwyFwuMi by Nicro@fedi.absturztau.be
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@Tutanota Beim Shiftphone wird einmal etwas seltsam zwischen "Du" und "Sie" gewechselt. Generell switch't der Bericht zwischen sachlicher Aussage und direkter Ansprache, was etwas ablenkt. Ansonsten gute Zusammenfassung.
(DIR) Post #B1sb0Zi9jWop8OBRmC by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@Nicro Ups, schau ich mir an!
(DIR) Post #B1sb3JRifAgLYdnil6 by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@anhnguyennguyen Right now, we don't have this on the roadmap, but will discuss with the team.
(DIR) Post #B1sbViMHdJgmvjnkH2 by Venicone@mastodon.scot
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena great article! Is it not worth including the Jolla Sailfish (Linux) family of phones, namely the C2 and upcoming new device later this year? You can get android apps like yours installed via microg which send no details back to Google.
(DIR) Post #B1scjiOKPJ732azueO by andree4live@mastodontech.de
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@Tutanota @volla @murena #grapheneOS, the rest is far away from secure!
(DIR) Post #B1sdORX9zJUKdBY7TU by Okuna@social.tchncs.de
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena if I check the @kuketzblog blog, there's only one OS which is Google-free.@GrapheneOS
(DIR) Post #B1sgZcxQ9hNL6mrDA8 by hel_winther@infosec.exchange
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I am quite happy with the shiftphone 8 I got from @shiftphones currently running lineageos on it
(DIR) Post #B1shMryj61SVsvwrYm by YourShadowDani@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena Anyone know of American based Linux phones? Half the time European ones don't ship overseas.
(DIR) Post #B1shfOSt3Dhpqut9xA by crepererum@mastodon.online
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena đŻ @GrapheneOS because of it's sound security and prompt patch delivery
(DIR) Post #B1sisYzHL8VUCpspPc by GOKUSHRM@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena đ¤ đ¤
(DIR) Post #B1sjL5inEFQdpym8oa by mast0d0nphan@beige.party
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena +1 for @GrapheneOS Secure + Private.
(DIR) Post #B1sp2dDr33A3xgswqm by drifthood@aus.social
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@Tutanota since 5 years i use a phone from the murena shop, now a fairphoneno problems, very goodit is a preinstalled option no tinkering required
(DIR) Post #B1svegKGYdBwJePXwO by Lacze@hear-me.social
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@Tutanota ⢠GrapheneOS Murena - âdegoogled"?https://hear-me.social/@Lacze/115025485211043855
(DIR) Post #B1t1foQAXpjPRB5uwi by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota Every option you're promoting has atrocious privacy and security. Each one lacks the most basic privacy and security patches/protections.You're also making highly inaccurate and misleading claims about GrapheneOS. This has been a repeated issue with Tuta. It's not surprising considering you're supporting groups not only scamming people but actively spreading misinformation about GrapheneOS and attacking our team with harassment.We're going to be publishing a response to Tuta.
(DIR) Post #B1t2KhiwLk00XUNCeO by celestinia@vivaldi.net
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I'll switch to Murena /e/OS through the incoming Hiroh phone and Fairphone 6 or higher in the future.iodĂŠOS and Volla are great too.I was interested about GrapheneOS but dropped it because of its leader's hammer statements and harassments towards other Android-forked open-source projects, highlighted during the French fake news campaign last November.
(DIR) Post #B1t4OUpGRhlXbTGczo by klic@digitalcourage.social
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@TutanotaI'm also very much interested in iodeOS. One thing that bugs me, though, is the incredible stupidity of app developers (banking apps and the like) that force Google (or Apple, for that matter) down your throat. Still looking for a way to get them reasonable. (European) digital sovereignty, anyone?@volla @murena
(DIR) Post #B1t7CYuNk0HEeWf6HI by metr0pl3x@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota thanks needed to save some money after the big spend this Christmas. Thats âŹ96 I can now choose to save until I find an alternative.
(DIR) Post #B1tDhU3KRZhsILyTxI by migtorr@mastodon.org.uk
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@Tutanota that's a lame excuse for omitting Graphene OS. And those OS's you mention are scammers. Unfollowed
(DIR) Post #B1tO1R6290FWSXOODg by HybridStaticAnimate@infosec.exchange
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I am incredibly disappointed in Tuta for publishing this blogpost. The options Tuta has presented worsen privacy and security, and this blogpost is is filled with misinformation. This seems counter to their stated goals.I no longer have faith in Tuta to maintain my privacy or security, and I am reconsidering using the services that Tuta provides.
(DIR) Post #B1u6KbymIla1hIx7Ro by sysnetadmyn@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @Tutanota hey! Everybody just chill out for a minute here, go take a break and come back when we can learn to work together, instead of hurting the community.I have spoken
(DIR) Post #B1u6KcbPz6ULd91yfw by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@sysnetadmyn @GrapheneOS Thank you, it's appreciated. đ
(DIR) Post #B1u6co0uITWMEYckN6 by oneloop@mastodon.xyz
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@andree4live @Tutanota LOL GrapheneOS isnt google free because it only runs on Pixel which is literally google.
(DIR) Post #B1u6cp1eXBiBN9yrAm by rebel1725@fosstodon.org
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@oneloop @andree4live @Tutanota Currently this is the situation actually, but GrapheneOS has been already trying to change it, by cooperating with an OEM to produce a GrapheneOS-ready phone as an alternative to Pixels.
(DIR) Post #B1u6cqMxXSLhXWxO1Q by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@rebel1725 @oneloop @andree4live That sounds amazing, looking forward to it!
(DIR) Post #B1u6j3Sxl2uZtdj7Ka by kennergf@mas.to
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena #Fairphone and #Murena are my favourites
(DIR) Post #B1u77AiET4QdJvMvBo by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Good morning, we explicitly mentioned GrapheneOS because it is one of the most secure options out there - but running on a Pixel, we can't really call it deGoogle, that's why it didn't get more space in the article. In any case, we'd like to change anything that's wrong in this article about GrapheneOS so please let us know what we should update. Thanks.
(DIR) Post #B1u7QGhSQlJxOO71MW by marcusxms@helvede.net
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@migtorr @Tutanota Graphene is not Google-free. I personally look greatly forward to it supporting non-Google phones, though, as I read they announced. Because besides that con I imagine it's a very good option.
(DIR) Post #B1u7QHSbbT2DkcAfqq by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@marcusxms @migtorr That would be amazing indeed!
(DIR) Post #B1u8JDmYyomiGphhpY by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian We specifically mentioned GrapheneOS because we believe it's a great project, some of our developers use GrapheneOS as well.So we believe, this is a misunderstanding, and we'd like to understand and fix it.
(DIR) Post #B1u8gzAwwGWRv1RTqS by raven@bsd.cafe
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurianGrapheneOS only supports Pixel devices because they're the only devices that match the security requirements of GrapheneOS. They would use another manufacturer if these requirements would be met.https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
(DIR) Post #B1u8hLumOYFoRX3OKm by NebulaTide@bsd.cafe
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian I would say that even though GrapheneOS requires hardware made by Google, it can be called âdegoogledâ. Why? Because the phone itself doesnât use any Google services. It doesnât phone home and it doesnât share any data with Google. Itâs just a bloody good piece of hardware and currently the best platform for a save and security mobile OS. But when you consider that degoogling isnât just stop using any Google services and sharing data with them, but also not buying anything from Google, then itâs probably not degoogling.
(DIR) Post #B1u8ydG5AIfD9kG1jM by andree4live@mastodontech.de
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Wenn man so denkt gibt es fast kein Gerät welches Googlefree ist. So gut wie jeder Smartphone-Hersteller zahlt LizenzgebĂźhren an Google. Egal welches System anschlieĂend aufgespielt wird. So gesehen ist ein Google Endgerät zu nutzen nicht mehr oder weniger degoogled als ein anderes Gerät zu nutzen. Wenn ihr näher forscht findet ihr schnell heraus das einige eurer genannter Systeme bzw Endgeräte dem Nutzer nicht die ganze Wahrheit erzählen
(DIR) Post #B1u958GMntLZ3KURcm by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota @PaintedDurian It's not a misunderstanding. You're choosing to promote unsafe products from companies heavily involved in attacks on GrapheneOS while misleading people about those and about GrapheneOS. You've been making inaccurate claims about GrapheneOS as part of your marketing for a long time now. Our community and project has repeatedly replied to the posts but yet you've doubled down on it and continue. We'll be asking our userbase to cancel their Tuta subs to support us today.
(DIR) Post #B1u9pjtFEu2T4Vtmoi by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota @PaintedDurian Your article promotes 5 options providing poor privacy and atrocious security while making inaccurate claims in support of them and pushing false narratives about GrapheneOS. Misrepresenting GrapheneOS as being a security project rather than a privacy project and downplaying the privacy it provides is a common false narrative from multiple of the groups you're promoting attacking our project and team. That includes posting extreme harassment content towards our team.
(DIR) Post #B1uA2B4vykVIs2IVZw by BrahmaBelarusian@regenerate.social
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena They're essentially all the same design, which is to say multiple camera having, GPS, AIs in the form of digital assistants embedded in them & none have physical keyboards, only Volla is military grade durable in said hardware, but it doesn't work in my country. So for my long-term needs in any smartphone I'd pay for, as they'd work for me year-round, which include having a physical keyboard, no AI and durability, none of these are real options. Diversity in hardware is needed in the open source sphere, for widespread adoption to be possible. #DisabilityAccessibility #OpenSourceHardware #deGoogled*I know what amounts to an open source version of a blackberry smartphone does exist, as I believe sliders (with full keyboards & bigger screens than blackberry) do, both being durable but I've yet to see any #deGoogled phones in those different design categories.
(DIR) Post #B1uA4DAdAjvZwBvpx2 by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian We're sorry to hear that, we didn't know about this. We put Graphene at the start of the article because of its value for everyone who wants to deGoogle (we're also looking forward to non-Pixel phones). We can update the part about Graphene to also underline the privacy aspect, will do so on Monday!
(DIR) Post #B1uAM9nkR9wshWmmJ6 by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota @PaintedDurian Fairphone is a Google partner with their own OS having official privileged Google Mobile Services integration but yet it's on your list./e/ always connects to Google services and has highly privileged integration for Googe apps and services unavailable to other apps but yet it's on your list.You're making highly inaccurate claims to promote each of the 5 for-profit options you've included on your list including the nonsense claim that CalyxOS and Punkt are hardened.
(DIR) Post #B1uAMCEPP0SmEnH68m by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Noted, we'll dig a bit deeper next week.
(DIR) Post #B1uAw9eMTeeielYnYW by GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social
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@Tutanota @PaintedDurian You misrepresent multiple of the options you're promoting lacking basic privacy and security patches as being hardened. You're heavily promoting them as private despite them failing to provide standard privacy protections and patches.Murena has engaged in years of relentless attacks on GrapheneOS inclouding harassment towards our team. We've posted a recent example of them doing it as part of trying to take advantage of French law enforcement attacks on GrapheneOS.
(DIR) Post #B1uAyoRHnNEjjziBaC by Lacze@hear-me.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS Tuta care about security? Yes? đđ There is no privacy without security.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WkQ_OCzuLNghttps://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/why-grapheneos-is-almost-impossible-to:4
(DIR) Post #B1uB4tBN4ZVsBoAIcK by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Noted, thanks for explaining.
(DIR) Post #B1uDb7fkvz4OIwsKjQ by PlutonicXT@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota I'd say running a non-google OS on a Google Pixel is as de-googling as you can get.Still, I hope you both can resolve this, and maybe GrapheneOS are right! For example I was very suspicious when I first saw /e/ a few years ago - they wanted us to "register", the opposite of what Tuta quite rightly do in fact!I love using Tuta mail!
(DIR) Post #B1uFTn6RDH8QOFzH0q by ruvkalo@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota I'm curious about your finds. đ
(DIR) Post #B1uGrYrltbGX8m1eTY by HudobniVolk@fosstodon.org
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena The title of the blog:"DeGoogled phones, made in Europe: Fairphone, Volla, SHIFTphone, Punkt â a full review."May require to read the title once more (or twice) for some..btw: the text is then upgraded with the manufacturers os choises.. yes..It is time for European tech to free itself and rise from the dead. We are no slaves to no one.
(DIR) Post #B1uJfS4zbQisTm7wMS by Xtreix@infosec.exchange
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena None of these devices with their operating systems are secure and privacy-friendly; quite the contrary, they are a major downgrade from AOSP in security, privacy and usability.
(DIR) Post #B1uLzMJKxZUeHvSNP6 by Xtreix@infosec.exchange
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian "DeGoogle" is the mistake, It's a meaningless term and its imaginary goal is completely irrelevant. All the products highlighted in your article are very poor in terms of security and privacy, and if we are to follow your reasoning, they are not "DeGoogle" in any way whatsoever, they all use Google services and they all depend on Google services, some, such as /e/, include their own intrusive services.GrapheneOS really improves things, and this can be verified, these other products that you are promoting do not improve things, they make them worse. Presenting them under the guise of âdeGoogleâ and âdigital sovereigntyâ is not relevant and is not judicious.
(DIR) Post #B1uQUljsrskfwi6gJk by mral@mastodon.sdf.org
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I'm in the USA right now and I sure wish there was an equivalent choice in the USA.The #corporatization problem is world-wide.
(DIR) Post #B1uRLJtR84EuvndJWy by LearnToLivePrivate@privacysafe.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian by that statement can you call any phone trully degoogled they all make querys by default in the background to google most of which you cant control with out heavy restricted use id love to be told wrong in fact how many of the so called degoogled phones run googles dns by default im wondering i have not used some of these new os's but Im pretty positive none of those phones are trully degoogled
(DIR) Post #B1uRXHgf9muBZ3MadU by LearnToLivePrivate@privacysafe.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Im on graphene os side on this situation.
(DIR) Post #B1uSMSR6x2o3ffUTQ0 by LearnToLivePrivate@privacysafe.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian even better how many use googles supl for location i can tell you graphene os does NOT by default they proxy it and you can shut it off as well same with psds
(DIR) Post #B1uST8VLSIBVsgehUm by backtoanalog@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena Could you review linux phones?
(DIR) Post #B1uZGve48icwCcrQG0 by nmetzinger@kif.rocks
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I honestly canât recommend #Shiftphone :blobcatumm:
(DIR) Post #B1uhLt7NlJn9RiRtWS by bub4don@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS I am shocked that GrapheneOS is not part of the initial post. It should be on top of the list. My dream would be Shift phone hardware with GrapheneOS. I switched from iOS to GOS and I seem to never look elsewhere in the future
(DIR) Post #B1uiR5q5zavGInPQbQ by nichtnureintraum@todon.eu
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@Tutanota I run LineageOS on my @fairphone and I love it, its completely google free and nearly 100% open source software installed, can recommend! wanted to try Murena but that is currently not recommended even by themselves. havent tried the others. would love to run GrapheneOS but I am neither rich nor do I want to buy a Google phone, ever
(DIR) Post #B1uppvQsWM3SweOyrw by LearnToLivePrivate@privacysafe.social
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@Tutanota @volla @murena punkt is subscription based they require data by default and money outside of the phone itself your paying for the os at 9.99 a month after the free months offer yo wtf!!!!!!!
(DIR) Post #B1v3zkhKgYbDuFg76G by unaegeli@swiss.social
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@TutanotaFairphone, since 2013.@volla @Fairphone @murena
(DIR) Post #B1vjoGthL50cN3fc7k by SuperMan_org@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @GrapheneOS @PaintedDurian Yes tuta is right, â
(DIR) Post #B1vz89ifEcNBDGRsp6 by rrustema@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota @volla @Fairphone @murena I de-Google for less than the 100%. by using an iPhone. Perhaps some 90%? I assume Apple and Google still have deals to keep Google the default search egine on iOS and macOS.
(DIR) Post #B1wta0FzbWh3PItRXE by jmzama@techhub.social
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@Tutanota Although each option has its own strengths and weaknesses, fighting amongst them does not help anyone. The enemy is the other side (Goo...). I prefer @murena because it strikes a good balance between privacy and usability for the average user.
(DIR) Post #B20LnXEnfrI5eOSLNw by lime360@floofy.tech
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@Tutanota imho i think there should be a privacy-respecting feature phone, kinda like sidephonei barely use a smartphone and prefer doing stuff on a laptop