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(DIR) Post #AxnB1tUuI16XuUiLKK by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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🚨 Google is killing Android freedom.Starting 2027, unverified apps can’t be side-loaded.➡️ F-Droid harder to install➡️ Custom APKs blocked➡️ Google decides what runs on YOUR phoneGoogle’s Android is becoming Apple: Your device, their rules.It’s time to switch to open alternatives: Graphene, Calyx, Lineage. ✊https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-googleSign the petition to stop Google from limiting APK file usage: https://www.change.org/p/stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage
(DIR) Post #AxnBvsXl1WnBATk8AK by Okuna@social.tchncs.de
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@Tutanota I wonder how long they will allow custom roms?
(DIR) Post #AxnCrD9v332hc0vn4C by klarnebel@mastodon.online
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@Tutanota „can’t be side loaded“ <— you mean „can’t be installed“, right? Who came up with this „side loaded“ bs?Sounds like doing something additional, when all you really do, is installing a program on your device, no?(No hate to you, I just wonder about the language) Edit: Thank you for the explanations of what sideloading is and means!
(DIR) Post #AxnDnfLEQNPPoY5zpw by SeanGeil@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota I think the next step have to be a new device that support @GrapheneOS or their own device
(DIR) Post #AxnFrK11r5CejwW7iy by geckled@piaille.fr
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@Tutanota merci pour la suggestion
(DIR) Post #AxnHLlWOFmY6goGalk by duncan_blues@norden.social
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@Tutanota it's probably too late to ask Google not to be evil. 🤷🏻
(DIR) Post #AxnIN5fKwWSxPSeAmO by lproven@vivaldi.net
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@Tutanota I have tried several alternative phone OSes and de-Googled Androids, and written about some. I do not know of anywhere that I can go and see a list of all of them. Here is a nice easy non-coding project for anyone who is interested in this area.* A list of FOSS phone OSes* Better still, with strengths/weaknesses comparisons: what each one is good for* Better still, some tool where you can enter your phone model and it tells you you could run.
(DIR) Post #AxnIsTrh1Kd3RJOWDA by rexxdeane@mastodon.online
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@Tutanota Can't seem to confirm my signature on any change.org petitions lately - and no way of contacting them to let them know it's f'd up (without x, facebook, instagram).
(DIR) Post #AxnLOZ7ZDKEMuqFKxU by johnelalamo@mcr.wtf
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@Tutanota What’s Google?
(DIR) Post #AxnM0sVRaZVu2egRPM by bentley_lucas@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota - Big Tech, like Big Oil, is going to be yet another capitalistic group of greed that hurts/ruins the environment and the very ideals of democracy.
(DIR) Post #AxnNIpFCYUsr5kCxnM by kaito02@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota we all know change.org doesn't work but ohhhh shit this petition is so poorly worded
(DIR) Post #AxnNd4PXsJrBvFhRei by nickelson@fosstodon.org
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@Tutanota One more reason to install custom roms :)And to buy only those brands/models which can have bootloader unlocked and drivers available.
(DIR) Post #AxnP8SVmQ5A1bH9BE8 by radekcrlik@witter.cz
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@Tutanota I switched to Graphene some time ago and it is awesome. Even though it has some issues. But biggest danger is that it runs on Google's Pixel phone. I hope it won't become a problem.
(DIR) Post #AxnPX8qweBBpryogdM by askesis@qoto.org
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@Tutanota how to use android without google?
(DIR) Post #AxnPyBbgW4QYEHZgAq by LonM@vivaldi.net
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@Tutanota EU citizens should respond to the proposed Digital Fairness Act and suggest that this kind of behaviour be considered illegal: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14622-Digital-Fairness-Act_enI have commented suggesting that consumers should have a right to install whatever software they want on hardware they own.
(DIR) Post #AxnRK3fMot7bvXI2r2 by Alonely0@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota I mean, they've confirmed it can be bypassed via ADB, tho it's kinda funny we'll have to rely on Shizuku or custom ROMs for sideloading. What disappoints me is that this is actually *not that bad* of an idea, considering what's going on w/ scams in many countries to old ppl; I really wish Google had instead tried to do this as a framework or open solution, such that alt stores could also provide dev verification (F-Droid is notorious for replacing dev signatures w/ their own).
(DIR) Post #AxnSEGkrLNF0jlf8kq by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@LonM Thanks for sharing this.
(DIR) Post #AxnSHqc0U44IobECmG by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@nickelson Agreed 👏
(DIR) Post #AxnTnHQcvm44urSPoG by Jay@beige.party
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@Tutanota I hate this so much 😭
(DIR) Post #AxnYF9fDnCdWl9paBk by Vishnu2jd@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota how would they enforce it on AOSP?
(DIR) Post #AxnZKNkewTXTr0QmKO by dryak@mstdn.science
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@Tutanota going further away from the android/AOSP-derivatives: another solution is Linux distributions on smartphones:- I personally daily drive #SailfishOS for more than a decade (commercially supported versions of SFOS even have "Android App Support" running inside a container for "that one app" with no native linux port you can't get without)- I've heard positive things about #postmarketOS and #UbuntuTouch (but don't have personal experience)
(DIR) Post #AxnbaxCJ7exIKTOPrs by DanOpcode@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota It's a tragedy. I'm doing what I can now to migrate off Google services. There's a need to be more independent.
(DIR) Post #Axnbb0d0Mr5qy8uHOi by IT_SME@mastodon.social
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@DanOpcode @Tutanota It took me almost a year to fully uproot Google from my life. But, it was sooooo worth it! My advice - be prepared for a long battle. It takes time to backup important emails, photos, and documents. And it takes time to update accounts with new email addresses. Leave some buffer time after switching to see if you still get emails from accounts you forgot about.But when it's done, you'll feel lighter on your feet.
(DIR) Post #Axnbb1LJi6XTBZdfSy by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@IT_SME Amazing! Well done for DeGoogling. 👏
(DIR) Post #AxnbcRzm6PBo8XFDkG by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@psycho_duck Yip, not a bad idea 😉
(DIR) Post #AxnbxrZSCzD3XT8x5k by siklist@social.cologne
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@TutanotaDamn. The biggest issue is always with "official" apps that don't accept custom roms or other operating systems except Android.Banking, car sharing, bike sharing, etc.
(DIR) Post #AxneKAVWgOtgY64Oq8 by micdan5@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota This is pretty much concerning for me, personally (and for other people as well who's in the same boat as me)There's some people who can't afford Pixels like me to install GOS on them, or another third-party OS. I'm personally not a big fan of custom ROMs because I'm pretty sure they'll die over time just by looking what Google is doing with AOSP, trying to make it almost close-source literallyAnd probably this will affect business that rely on 3rd party software as well...
(DIR) Post #AxneKoC5876vdNHR5M by robchapman@ohai.social
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@Tutanota well that's great upto a point, but Graphene, Calyx & Lineage only run on certain handsets, so unless there's another custom ROM that can run on everything, then only people with the finances to buy a compatible handset, and technical ability can be Google and Android free, the rest are fucked!
(DIR) Post #Axnf1uoQOlRAc3lmoi by IT_SME@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota I can't speak to the three you mentioned, but I'm running /e/OS and I can't speak highly enough about it. I absolutely love it!
(DIR) Post #Axng0T9ppf7mVYetNI by mariob@liberdon.com
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@Tutanota unfortunately we will need a completely new alternative. Degoogled android will not have much to live given Google's push for the enshittification of Android. So we will need Linux for mobile, like postmarket and mobian.
(DIR) Post #AxnlBw6n28L9FnWOFE by crazyeddie@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota And get a device it's possible to install these on before they don't exist anymore or worse, become illegal to purchase or own. It's already illegal in many jurisdictions to change your IMEI even if you're not doing anything else with it, like spoof a different device to get a better deal on your cell service.
(DIR) Post #AxnsZM8T8AhOJaQBDU by zelot@musicworld.social
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@Tutanota unfortunately we don't have a stable live in other custom roms. We could make a good Linux OS for mobiles but there is no developers that want remake everything for OS where people is a rare
(DIR) Post #AxnsjYafg8mVq4Tcv2 by cmyrland@tutoteket.no
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@Tutanota oh yeah, due to "security reasons" I guess?
(DIR) Post #AxnzTlC3kieVyLNau8 by Azarilh@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota Time to root the phone...
(DIR) Post #AxoGRnvMKN2H5CDm9Q by jellycrystals@qoto.org
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@Tutanota Fuck that noise..
(DIR) Post #Axoym0OS4ZsJWwGvHU by Tutanota@mastodon.social
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@cmyrland Yup! The standard reason.
(DIR) Post #AxpyDomMwTfOp07KS0 by libredigital@mastodon.social
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@TutanotaLinux is also an open alternative for phones 🙂
(DIR) Post #Axq0tdHKI8crDvfCvQ by pieist@qoto.org
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@Tutanota Still, y'know, best of all worlds:Google provides the justification for many leading manufacturers to produce a variety of devices.Then the best of those devices get support from third party OS's. I mean yes, of course Google sucks the big sausage. But Asus and Lenovo and Samsung etc. wouldn't be making all this great hardware for reasonable prices if Google weren't out there pushing Android. And we all benefit when we install LineageOS and similar on those devices.
(DIR) Post #AyQCWwu3M4oSZJHkX2 by f4grx@chaos.social
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@Tutanota unfortunately lineage is not ported to all platforms, frar from that.
(DIR) Post #AyQNz2I21HsUsa62bo by struberg@mastodon.green
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@Tutanota Hoping for the European Union to stop them.
(DIR) Post #AyQlLNYVvrru9PQekS by crecente@games.ngo
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@Tutanota @gamingagainstv Google #Play removed #nonprofit apps from their store, claiming that these topics are not #educational:👉🏼#consent #healthyrelationshipsThese same apps are on #Appstore for #Apple users - but #Google removed them for #Android users. ⭐⭐⭐This is why we need sideloading!
(DIR) Post #AyRCSf3XxggJDWdocS by grootinside@troet.cafe
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@Tutanota It's worth noting that Google is a member of the #clubofoligarchs 😒Just sayin'
(DIR) Post #AyREW40TqufzNQxOzo by bob@beamship.mpaq.org
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@Tutanota I have so gotta drop #FuckYouGoogle/Android.
(DIR) Post #AyRGGalEVPjYEkZjwu by kevinrns@mstdn.social
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@Tutanota Need repair cafes to install de-googled Android and linux. Never sign in to google? Its pretty great.
(DIR) Post #AyRZGdweZ6MfF2egbY by fruitchypear@owo.cafe
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@Tutanota CalyxOS is gone for a while, and LineageOS is focused on giving phones without official updates a second chance, and it lacks verified boot which can be considered a security risk: DivestOS enabled verified boot on some devices, but the dev also ended the project and moved on.For the time being, the only viable, secure, open alternative based on AOSP is GrapheneOS, and only Google Pixel phones are supported (though at least one OEM will release a GOS-compatible device in a few years). And this assuming the Android Open Source Project will stay open.
(DIR) Post #AyRji29ZfLztgPOlIO by kevinrns@mstdn.social
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@Tutanota Get off google, shun tech bro products, buy fairphone, root your phone, get control.of your devices.We are in big trouble.
(DIR) Post #AySQVaAQBla1RH6UiW by allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@Tutanota as someone who runs LineageOS and maintains an app, this will still be a huge hit for the Android foss ecosystem since we will lose 95% of our users. I'm personally looking at Linux Mobile as the only possible escape hatch, not Android-based OSes as they have the same Google problem as Chromium.I feel it's important now more than ever to support independent efforts like #postmarketOS and help them become viable as a full Android replacement.
(DIR) Post #AyTHfO2vP6psJT9pXE by NinjaDebugger@mastodon.sandwich.net
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@Tutanota Do any of these alternatives actually support the Samsung S-pen stuff?
(DIR) Post #AyhNRpFolhFGa4XmXA by miuiuser@mastodon.social
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@Tutanota Google is Evil