Post AwGVfzMPBCZS75JraS by draslorus@piaille.fr
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(DIR) Post #AwGCr63oi7NewxCxpg by gael@mastodon.social
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Once again Graphene is attacking /e/OS publicly with misleading or totally false claims. That is so counter-productive and gives them a lot of discredit (but we know the problem is not Graphene, but his leader who is hiding behind various Graphene accounts and posts)
(DIR) Post #AwGHqD35k5JA6ZGUyG by plumeros@swiss.social
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@gael #grapheneos is just a bad joke. Buy a google phone for a de-googled OS?!
(DIR) Post #AwGKZuO7eeWbSV1Lvs by gael@mastodon.social
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/e/OS is not a security-hardened OS, we're focusing on Privacy improvements. But we still take security seriously, even doing some urgent OTA security updates: https://gitlab.e.foundation/e/os/releases/-/releases/v3.0.4-tNot good timing for your lies @GrapheneOS
(DIR) Post #AwGTI752crDTCKgXgW by Beryl@ludosphere.fr
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@gael @GrapheneOS Je viens de passer mon vieux Galaxy S8 en 3.0.4-S.C'est la dernière version d'eOS pour AOSP 12.Est-il prévu de faire monter ce bon vieil S8 en version 13 (ou plus !) ?#eos #android #samsung
(DIR) Post #AwGVfzMPBCZS75JraS by draslorus@piaille.fr
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@kerfuffle @gael their claims are not that invalid. But tvey miss a critical point. Graphene is not compatible with fairphone. Google Pixels are NOT repairable.Si yeah, there is bettef securoty on graphene, but at what cost ?
(DIR) Post #AwGVg03IbiskG7O7Rg by gael@mastodon.social
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@draslorus @kerfuffle most of their claims are just wrong, we will update early next week
(DIR) Post #AwGVyBX2fHJj4iyHlw by karazicos@mastodon.social
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@gael @GrapheneOS Une guerre entre Grapheneos et vous serait la pire chose qui puisse arriver au monde libre sur les smartphones. Il y a largement de la place pour les deux options, un peu comme linux mint, ubuntu, fedora, etc dans l'univers de linux
(DIR) Post #AwGbo40YNq0CZLKefY by gael@mastodon.social
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@heartshadows 👎👎👎
(DIR) Post #AwGgKiUHogYrCJ45js by other8026@infosec.exchange
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@gael @GrapheneOS It is kind of ironic to use that as an example of keeping your browser up to date when it's not even the correct release.> Chromium 138.0.7204.97 was a June 30th release for Windows, not Android. The Android tag for June 30th was 138.0.7204.63.https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/07/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_15.htmlhttps://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/06/chrome-for-android-update_30.html
(DIR) Post #AwGhKOKwptFGei6d5U by BucciaBuccia@mastodon.social
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@gael @GrapheneOS > even doing some urgent OTA security updates> This /e/OS 3.0.4 version includes the Android security patches available as of June 2025.June security patches incorporated more than 1 month later though.
(DIR) Post #AwGiRdEfwO3MqRBjpQ by gael@mastodon.social
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@BucciaBuccia @GrapheneOS So? Do you think it's technically possible to deploy security fixes to 200+ devices for hundred thousands users in a few hours? We do monthly updates. Don't ask us to do better than all others in the industry that would be a ridiculous posture, and it is not our business.Also please stop thinking that you are at 0-risk with up to date security updates. There are many publicly unknown security exploits to get into your phone if you are targeted.Bullshits.
(DIR) Post #AwGjaNeXLYpB4l1K4G by etnevelarts@vivaldi.net
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@gael @GrapheneOS I don't know about the urgent part. /e/OS is very rarely updated.I bought a CMF Phone 1 to test how does it feel like, and if it worth buying a Fairphone 6 as my main device, and even the official ROMs are very far from each other in release date. Android devices need to get updates every single month by adding the respective month's security patch, but so far, that's not the case.I understand that community builds don't get released frequently, as the list of devices is very long, but this is an officially supported phone, sold on the Murena website, and yet, it doesn't get monthly support.Not to mention that the hardware isn't properly tested, as the display and the fingerprint sensor aren't calibrated on the OS level. The display was even reported in the forum that it's oversaturated, many releases ago. Again, you sell this phone with this experience officially.Aside from the Graphen OS team's claims, I experience from first hand that support requires much higher standards than how Murena operates right now. I hope that you consider forwarding my criticism to the maintainers.
(DIR) Post #AwGkWCQfEas73t6MfQ by Datenproletarier@chaos.social
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@gael @BucciaBuccia @GrapheneOS This is not the point.If you are unable to provide security updates, don't claim to protect your users privacy. That's all.And nobody especially not GrapheneOS claimed to be at no risk. That's an absurd strawmen argument.
(DIR) Post #AwGt13ewgmGcTQ0VSy by idkrn@infosec.exchange
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@gael what it a publicly unknown exploit? Why is it ok to be vulnerable to known exploits?
(DIR) Post #AwH9ZGFfyXuodmWDwW by hexadecimal@mas.to
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@gael Gaël, why not instead of trying to hurt your "competition", you just actually offer a decent product, god damn...
(DIR) Post #AwHeX9LNmko1DRf3GC by gael@mastodon.social
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@hexadecimal 👎👎👎
(DIR) Post #AwHefKbtmUGeTUHttQ by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn Who said it is OK? Not me. /e/OS is up to date with SLPs
(DIR) Post #AwHrhIiL6IOiZqZNiq by walsonde@antifa.style
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@gael Donald, is that you?cc @GrapheneOS
(DIR) Post #AwHzA4omXnprYYFfDE by wolflint@mastodon.social
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@gael @GrapheneOS e/os are pretty transparent about not focusing on security as much as improving privacy https://doc.e.foundation/support-topics/de-googlisationI'm aware that I don't get full privacy when using e/os, I just have more control over tracking and I'm quite happy with that. If I want more privacy I leave my phone behind.I'm personally more concerned with avoiding e-waste, so I'm using a fairphone. I'd be interested to try graphene os if the OEMs that you're contacting provide more than 3 or 4 yrs of support
(DIR) Post #AwISOshqksq30TQ9bc by idkrn@infosec.exchange
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@gael it's implied you think it's ok by shipping patches weeks or months late
(DIR) Post #AwIV9W3ayx5cHPxOjY by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn are we supposed to ship over day?
(DIR) Post #AwIlcA1RaHElbZdCqW by idkrn@infosec.exchange
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@gael they should be shipped on time
(DIR) Post #AwIsVkBfQPC1Q8IhI8 by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn they are
(DIR) Post #AwJ2XorM1UyA24QZqi by idkrn@infosec.exchange
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@gael if patches are made available downstream weeks or months after they are made stable upstream, that is extremely late> https://web.archive.org/web/20241231003546/https://divestos.org/pages/patch_history
(DIR) Post #AwJrLpHdiTpzXClFFw by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn each month we are integrating latest available security patches into /e/OS
(DIR) Post #AwJrxwnaDuRVqYscc4 by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn The Fairphone 6 + /e/OS 3.0.1 has been delivered in June with May SPLs (https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/2025-05-01)We also push urgent security OTA updates. For instance /e/OS 3.0.4, which is currently being deployed, includes an urgent 0-day webview fix - released just a few days ago - as well as June SPLs (https://gitlab.e.foundation/e/os/releases/-/releases/v3.0.4-t)
(DIR) Post #AwSbffKYa5MHc7CeeW by idkrn@infosec.exchange
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@gael is 3.0 based on the outdated and unsupported Android 13?
(DIR) Post #AwScC2T85ZjwdteL9k by gael@mastodon.social
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@idkrn 👎👎👎