Post AvWeMsllQF2iUAzL72 by arun@fantastic.earth
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(DIR) Post #AvWOzAH7BcW0W3sw2S by deobald@fantastic.earth
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it's been a very difficult year or two for @gnome and, to continue to exist, the foundation really needs you.however, we first want to ask you to *donate less*:https://blogs.gnome.org/steven/2025/06/26/donate-less/#gnome
(DIR) Post #AvWOzB56BmUv15Gqwq by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@deobald @gnome Since you are killing X11 sessions, and I need them for a crucial application, not donating is perfectly fine, I can do that
(DIR) Post #AvWRoKdyaxclLq6XQ0 by newbyte@mastodon.nu
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@prokoudine @deobald @gnome Just curious, what is this crucial application that doesn't work with Wayland?
(DIR) Post #AvWRsdRocnXkpRT624 by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@newbyte @deobald @gnome Ardour
(DIR) Post #AvWeMsllQF2iUAzL72 by arun@fantastic.earth
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@prokoudine @newbyte @deobald @gnome out of curiosity, is it something other than what's mentioned in this thread? https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxaudio/comments/1i18c11/ardour_broken_on_wayland_session_tried_two/
(DIR) Post #AvWgIzpTQpt58CzxIW by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@arun @newbyte @deobald @gnome scaling on hidpi is broken too
(DIR) Post #AvWizdCNeBi5IwAcnw by nekohayo@mastodon.social
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@prokoudine I mean, what would you expect from a GTK2 application at this point…? Doesn't really sound like GNOME is at fault here.
(DIR) Post #AvWlDyMBygrUt7j4Ns by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@nekohayo zero scaling issues on X11, and it's not Ardour removing X11 support from GNOME
(DIR) Post #AvWoeFl4CdnMFTaGrQ by nekohayo@mastodon.social
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@prokoudine Yeah, but to be fair we don't have an incentive to keep maintaining a 40-years-old bucket of spaghetti forever. We want to be able to retire.If Ardour wants to benefit from proper GPU acceleration and HiDPI support, it should upgrade to a version of the toolkit architecture that is only 5 years old instead of 23 years old. Desktop HiDPI screens didn't even exist back in the days of GTK2, and I'm flabbergasted that it somehow accidentally works in Xorg.
(DIR) Post #AvWsjjj0c8JySBUXa4 by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@nekohayo not accidentally at all. moreover, there are exactly zero plugins with Wayland support
(DIR) Post #AvWtQGKNmuTvjRFbns by nekohayo@mastodon.social
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@prokoudine Unfortunate situation, though I trust that after 15 years of buffer time, this final deprecation signal will encourage plugin writers to also migrate their tooling towards native X12 (Wayland) compatibility if they don't want to use standard widgets. We don't keep Python 2 + GStreamer 0.10 around anymore, either…
(DIR) Post #AvWuWGgpSFVgXwB47M by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@nekohayo all this "unfortunate situation" rhetoric and the actions that come with it are reason #1 why i'm seriously considering dropping gnome entirely after 25 years, even if the software i rely on magically starts working on wayland overnight
(DIR) Post #AvYdTbfpfdglqymC1I by Adaoh@fosstodon.org
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@prokoudine @nekohayo even if you did drop GNOME, all major desktop environments are working towards dropping X11. KDE is working to get rid of it. COSMIC will be Wayland only. even XFCE is working towards being Wayland compatible. at this point if your software can't keep up with the newer better standards it's the software's fault, not the standards evolving
(DIR) Post #AvYhEcZIShcE6JpT4y by prokoudine@mastodon.social
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@Adaoh @nekohayo Sure, I could use a less major DE or even go back to something like IceWM. Or stay on Fedora 42 indefinitely. Or maybe drop Linux entirely. All I care is being able to run my production tools