Post AodfZMpggcsIMVM7iy by dldnh@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AodfZ3YgLcyyaGFm52 by solarbird@solarbird.net
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google’s latest fuckery: if you write online, read thisThe Google app for iOS now adds THEIR links to YOUR posts from YOUR website unless you opt-out.Their links lead people away from your site and back to Google. Because that’s definitely what you want, right? That’s why you have a blog or portal or web site or whatever. You want people to leave your site and go back to Google.Oh, it’s not?If you don’t like it, you can “Opt out.” Opting out is a pain in the ass. Here’s where you go to do it. You have to enter every variation of each of your domains or it won’t work. It will take up to 30 days, during which time Google will continue to pollute your work and your writing and your website with their modifications and their added links to take people away from your site and back to themselves.For example, here’s the list of what I need to opt-out just for this one blog:solarbird.nethttp://solarbird.nethttps://solarbird.netwww.solarbird.nethttp://www.solarbird.nethttps://www.solarbird.netweb.solarbird.nethttp://web.solarbird.nethttps://web.solarbird.netYes, you explicitly have to file no prefix, http:, and https: variants separately. They say so.Making it difficult like this is 100% intentional and entirely designed to make it as annoying as possible, and also, to make sure you slip up if at all possible and forget one or more combinations.(Tho’ I am just going to depreciate web. as a prefix right now, to bring down the load a little. Still gonna list ’em, though, because spite is why.)Right now it’s only in the Google app for iOS and it’s probably a test to see whether they can get away with it without complaint, and how much revenue it generates. Let’s make that a combination of no and as close to zero as possible. Because otherwise they’ll roll it out everywhere, and probably derank you if you don’t go along.Fucking hell, Google. Fuck you. Just… fuck you.#art #t0000000000bs_ #writing
(DIR) Post #AodfZ6Zr7ihhwlpFpI by SaftyKuma@mastodon.social
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@solarbird Can we just block their user agent?
(DIR) Post #AodfZ6bd187c2Gefaa by Brokar@mastodon.social
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@solarbird You usually don't eat food which smells funny. Google already stinks rotten for quite some time.And still people eat it. And constantly complain about stomach pain.My advice: stop eating rotten food instead of trying to find medicine for the side effects.
(DIR) Post #AodfZ8OENuarZIOzz6 by stringlapse@tech.lgbt
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@solarbird its even worse! per the opt out form:> Make sure you're logged in to the Google account that you use for your property in Search Console (and that has owner or full user permissions), as this information is used to verify ownership.i dont use search console! theyre gonna make me sign up for search console and do whatever the fuck theyre gonna make me do to verify ownership just to opt out??? go eat rocks google
(DIR) Post #AodfZCuzY3Axc3lDbU by Beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@solarbird Da fuck. I feel like internet is so damn destroyed right now. Billionaires are just ruining everything :(
(DIR) Post #AodfZEActPHBUq5Dc0 by chris_e_simpson@hachyderm.io
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@solarbird as someone building a web app, this has me rather concerned that it might find it's way into Chrome
(DIR) Post #AodfZEImP5nXu7tjJw by Stoori@polyglot.city
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@solarbird and you can't even opt out without logging in to google's services?! 😡 what about website authors without google accounts? fuck you google
(DIR) Post #AodfZFIogRQD0WvH16 by h5e@tech.lgbt
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@solarbird @hazelnoot TIL google has an app? That is not Chrome? But anyway, so people who use this app/browser thingy get an altered version of the internet and probably don’t even know it? Wth. I’ll have a look into it. Thank you for alerting us.How long until this hits Chrome…? Ugh.
(DIR) Post #AodfZFvoLSc6xTAPnU by albinanigans@weirder.earth
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@solarbirdwould you mind making placing spaces between your examples? they are hard to parse otherwise.
(DIR) Post #AodfZGMkjIAGJ1lvn6 by maggiejk@zeroes.ca
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@solarbird i’ve asked Google to remove my personal information from search results and it’s hilarious to watch it remove it, then re-populate it, then remove it again, then re-populate it.I understand that if I went to each individual site and convinced them to remove my information this wouldn’t keep happening. But I think it’s funny that Google offers this service knowing that they’re going to throw my information back out there again only to have to take it back down again, over and over forever I guess.
(DIR) Post #AodfZGOAe1IaNQR408 by EnigmaVoice@mastodon.ml
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@solarbird last time I'd met such thing it was done by a malware infecting the browser. Funny thing to see a browser becoming the malware.
(DIR) Post #AodfZGOAe1IaNQR409 by normis@s.dodies.lv
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@solarbird@solarbird.net Wait, I have to have a google account to opt out?
(DIR) Post #AodfZITurd5Crp8gEa by varve@weirder.earth
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@solarbird yahoo sounds far too unconcerned in the summary at the end of the article. "Oh, it probably won't make a difference to how people browse" - yeah if that were true then google wouldn't have bothered.
(DIR) Post #AodfZIb0RGkpDoSLHk by solonovamax@tech.lgbt
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@solarbird is it possible to opt-out for all subdomains?
(DIR) Post #AodfZIb0RGkpDoSLHl by vxo@digipres.club
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@solarbird wow, like 10 years ago this would just be the results of a malware infection, now it's... canon? hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(DIR) Post #AodfZJOHU4AZgdVh5c by paulshryock@phpc.social
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@solarbird and you have to have a Google account in order to opt out, right? When I looked into this, it said I had to connect my site via Google Search Console in order to opt out. That's not something I'll be doing.
(DIR) Post #AodfZJxjMGWfSa60LQ by ctietze@mastodon.social
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@solarbird At least they make it easy to opt back in with "N/A", ugh
(DIR) Post #AodfZLbpEgByZDrXTk by wonderfox_dev@suya.place
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@solarbird I also have to sign in in oder to fill out the opt out form. I don’t have a google account and they won’t let me sign up because I live in Russia. I guess there is no opt out for me
(DIR) Post #AodfZMhXAwLvxDXc13 by ashwin@chaotic.fun
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@solarbird Too bad I don't have a development environment at the moment. I am mad enough to write an app to bypass Google's trickery, maybe make opting out a 1-click operation. You enter a domain, my code automatically generates variants and talks to Google. If the user is a lady then I am the smiley old man by the side of the road who lays down his coat ( code ) over a dirty ditch ( Google ), to be a gentleman hobo and make the lady's day a bit nicer.But as I said, I don't have a dev env atm, so I need to sleep on the beach and do cyberpunk hobo things till I do.Good luck and y'all come back now, y'hear? 🤠
(DIR) Post #AodfZMpggcsIMVM7iy by dldnh@mastodon.social
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@solarbird Just stop Google from indexing your site. Problem solved!
(DIR) Post #AodfZOI5GXBQsreJcm by The4thCircle@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@solarbird This form is really confusing. How do they know I have anything to do with the URLs I enter? The form says I can resubmit with n/a to allow all, but how do they know what domains that means?
(DIR) Post #AodfZOI5GXBQsreJcn by NNN@urbanists.social
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@solarbird Does this kick in if you use a google browser to edit your WordPress/Wix/whatever site, on an iOS platform like an iPad?So using Safari or Firefox would prevent this?
(DIR) Post #AodfZOI5GXBQsreJco by HeyCallMeRed@transfem.social
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@solarbird@solarbird.net according to the linked article, it only inserts links in plaintext... I wonder what would happen if you made the full text of a page into a link that links back to that page, possibly with some inline styling to make it look like plaintext...
(DIR) Post #AodfZP02d6LT5CDQ8m by Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net
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@solarbird I agree wholeheartedly with Google's Page Annotations being an absolutely awful antifeature, and recommend that others opt-out and/or protest the feature. I want to make a clarification that doesn't invalidate your main points:Clicking annotations doesn't navigate away from your site to a Google search; it triggers an overlay with infoboxes about the term you selected. It's similar to the iOS "Look Up" option for selected text. It's wrong to do because this obfuscates what is and isn't a link the author placed on the page. Inserting what appears to be links into the page crosses the line from user-agent interventions, such as adblocking or turning off certain unsafe features (acceptable) to editing an author's words in a way that isn't required for people to read them (unacceptable).Editing page contents is fine if it's necessary for people to read them, e.g. translations or the WAI-Adapt standards. Both ideally inform the user that the page has been modified. Page Annotations go well beyond that.Originally posted on seirdy.one: See Original (POSSE).
(DIR) Post #AodfZPSkuLJWWFeLtg by Tacitus@masto.bike
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@solarbird how long before opted-out disappear from search results ?
(DIR) Post #AodfZPwB8wqjzVPql6 by fazalmajid@vivaldi.net
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@solarbird seems like having a rewrite rule on your web server to block the Google app would be a more robust solution, assuming they have a distinctive user-agent header.
(DIR) Post #AodfZRUxL8GKpeh8bY by mikro2nd@indieweb.social
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@solarbird Here's another way to opt out:In `/robots.txt` add:User-agent: GooglebotDisallow: /(Yes, I realise this is not a realistic option for some people. For those of us running personal webgardens and such... perfect.)
(DIR) Post #AodfZT59S2oFkCdYf2 by PC_Fluesterer@social.tchncs.de
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@solarbird "Google", "iOS":Who can spot the two errors?
(DIR) Post #AodfZToWjL6c0vrnO4 by kel@mastodon.online
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@solarbird All the hallmarks of a sad desperate dying company, led by some of the worlds biggest losers, in it's death throes screaming out for ad revenue so it doesn't collapse into non-existence!Someone should put it out of it's utterly shameful misery!It is the humane thing to do!Other than that - rather than play their game, switch it up organise and bring a class action lawsuit against the bags of dog shit!
(DIR) Post #AodfZTriXTeqApMLMO by oscarfalcon@mastodon.social
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@solarbird Holy Fucking Shit, I just did it and it took me about ten minutes to list all my website variants.FUCK YOU GOOGLE!
(DIR) Post #AodfZUuEfbGZOvXrvM by nick@sloan.host
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@solarbird @nicklockwood Am I reading this right? It seems like you have to be using Google Search Console with each domain for them to authorize the opt out. Truly the grossest fucking company.
(DIR) Post #AodfZUuEfbGZOvXrvN by bsdphk@fosstodon.org
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@solarbird How is this not a copyright violation ?
(DIR) Post #AodfZXcyYEF5qGUcwC by trebach@functional.cafe
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@solarbird And of course you have to have a Google account to even fill in the damn form
(DIR) Post #AodfZa8xCJ0he1TC3k by raganwald@social.bau-ha.us
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@solarbird I recall this in the early days of the web: People would make web sites that "framed" other web sites, and put advertising on them.Major web sites lawyered up, and the practice went away. Now Google is back for another kick at the can.
(DIR) Post #AodfZepzkDoeCfdchc by spujb@spujb.masto.host
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@solarbirdAnd not one user will leave.