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(DIR) Post #An4KoqUnjm4TKl0rpY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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Another bad derivative of my art:- Reusing my Creative Commons artwork without attribution- Putting it on top of AI genI wonder how they managed to sell 568 of them... đ€ Revolting. Well, I filled out a report to ask them at least to put attribution.link: https://share.temu.com/00LkQzG68XAmy art: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/artworks__2018-11-19_thank-you-patreon-day_by-David-Revoy.html
(DIR) Post #An4Ktawcz31GYCIF1M by welshpixie@mastodon.art
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@davidrevoy blech!
(DIR) Post #An4LAsnpqAwwrMQM9A by xoxys@social.tchncs.de
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@davidrevoy its a shame... Good luck even if I fear that it will be unsuccessful đ
(DIR) Post #An4LHwC3dGz1P27N4a by muhuk@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@davidrevoy it's not Cute Cartoon Cat, it's Carrot! đĄ
(DIR) Post #An4LKGjiE3Sxh6yHWS by duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.place
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I am so sorry this happened to you! đ„@davidrevoy
(DIR) Post #An4Lj5CcFGRHA8K56O by morph@morphnet.de
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@davidrevoy đ
(DIR) Post #An4OqkCQW9dYCZZyIS by frodo@kanoa.de
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@davidrevoy You should hire a lawyer. Without credit this is not allowed. You deserve the money.
(DIR) Post #An4PAPcoiq3UBQIlAe by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@NatureMC I am wondering why they haven't gotten through Amazon yet. For at least ten years they have been selling illegal products with health risks.
(DIR) Post #An4PgxP6fW9GDHPIy8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@frodo I did it once; it cost me 600⏠for the first appointment, just to study the case. It taught me that unless you're sure you can get more than âŹ5000 for the repair, it's not worth trying. Unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #An4Q2Es6v24kTC7ang by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy I think there is a good chance they will add attribution at least in the description or the title. As long as you don't want any compensation :(. I am also always worried about the chemicals in the apparel and heard about Temu's bad working conditions...
(DIR) Post #An4QbXMw8enxyPN6cS by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@sylvia_ritter oh yes, chemicals, and probably child or forced labor in backstage, and big environmental footprint.
(DIR) Post #An4RCsaoByQwVofN8y by kkarhan@infosec.space
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@davidrevoy I'd not ask politely but seek a permanent injunction and damages, but alas it's not my work nor do I not.know the license terms, so the milage if yours may wary.#NotLegalAdvice
(DIR) Post #An4RCszchiHbkmHBp2 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@kkarhan They don't give you freedom of expression unfortunately on their form to fill a report. It's a form in four steps, asking all about your address, name, email, phone number, company, professional ID, etc... And various way to authentify the copyright ownership of the Intellectual Property.
(DIR) Post #An4Rj3ZMurfxp4KtNI by jromanowska@fosstodon.org
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@sylvia_ritter @NatureMC Yeah, Temu should be banned for so many reasons! đĄ
(DIR) Post #An4TnBXbQ6Rtc2beWe by KyleBlaine@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@davidrevoy ugh I'm so sorry, David. Temu is such a monster. Run by thieves, for thieves, built on the backs of slaves. Pepper and Carrot deserve better. :(
(DIR) Post #An4UXAzrm84VFIkytk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
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@davidrevoy There are makers and there are takers. Weâve built a system that rewards the takers :(
(DIR) Post #An4UjzWxiYKHRsLcie by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@b2m9 I'll do!
(DIR) Post #An4V68OFSWAVIRpYG0 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@KyleBlaine Thank you. Unfortunately, that's the world we live in. I would still like to thank every young person who appreciates their "Carrot with Heart" T-shirt.
(DIR) Post #An4VWULaRgvwvN9Uxs by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@aral True. It's also the first time I see this industry using AI-gen for the photo model and stealing real art on top. Disturbing.Maybe they are starting to realise that their AI art is hard to sell.
(DIR) Post #An4VjQFyxsz80EhLZg by cykonot@mas.to
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@davidrevoy use an LLM to transform your request into aggressive legalese UwU
(DIR) Post #An4VjQihF7xBRI8HKa by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@cykonot haha, the đ„ against đ„ method đ Unfortunately, their forms (long to fill them out) had no room for exercising all my opinion about this seller's activities.
(DIR) Post #An4cBEwFEtO2jV76sy by frodo@kanoa.de
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@davidrevoy I understand. How sad. I am the price of a court case at the moment. That is even more
(DIR) Post #An4cydsFJnAYG5nfP6 by globcoco@mamot.fr
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@davidrevoy Oh gosh. This is so wrong!!!So sorry đ
(DIR) Post #An4hBJs3OsC1nk0ix6 by Tritz@ravenation.club
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@davidrevoy Ouch... I feel that. Worst thing is, if they're doing it to you they're most certainly doing it to other artists too. :reeEEE: what a shitty move. At least ask for permission or link the artist. But that's a big nogo.
(DIR) Post #An4hWqEAIIWGEccDce by ZoidbergForPresident@kolektiva.social
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@davidrevoy Shit, sorry to hear that, any way of contacting temu ?
(DIR) Post #An4hWqZR1DX7IaZCm8 by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@ZoidbergForPresident Thank you. They have a report button on the page, I did that. Hopefully it will do something.
(DIR) Post #An4hfKKkFCK3vLjtuC by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@generika Yes, that's what I meant by "AI gen" on the post; it's obviously AI generated images.
(DIR) Post #An4ht8Ee1S3ySJT7Eu by david_preston@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy this is not ok. In your shoes I would write to Temu Boston headquarters with a cease and desist to allowing your copyrighted work being sold without consent and it breaches your moral right which is the right to be named as the creator, which really means that they have voided the creative commons licence and I'd send an invoice with it for a very large sum. Happy to help. In some instances justice is fought in small steps. It is lovely artwork btw.
(DIR) Post #An4wPeRBEIUIxCjUCe by awesomeyatt@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy it's TEMU, why am I not surprised...
(DIR) Post #An548qBr4xOK7C3l68 by congusbongus@mastodon.gamedev.place
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@davidrevoy on a related note, David sells shirts too via redbubble https://www.redbubble.com/people/davidrevoy/shop so go there if you want a shirt!
(DIR) Post #An57xMkcaoIFRT6aA4 by yon@sakurajima.moe
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@davidrevoy Well that was a wild ride from âheâs got merch!â to âfiddlesticksâ.I see the link to your lovely art, but do you have merch by any chance? As it turns out I need clothes, and itâs a way to support various people whose work I enjoy.:)
(DIR) Post #An5ZZl2DS5XEWVrkOm by mark22k@layer8.space
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@davidrevoy Under which license is the picture from you? But not even giving you credit in the description is disrespectful!
(DIR) Post #An5iWOuQ9q30cWh5V2 by amic@mathstodon.xyz
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@davidrevoy MĂȘme les commentaires sur le site paraissent gĂ©nĂ©rĂ© par IA ;-)Je suis mĂȘme pas sĂ»r quâils en aient vendu autant quâils disent, bref câest quand mĂȘme un site bien limite. Si on peut dĂ©jĂ en faire de la mauvaise pub, câest ça de gagnĂ© !
(DIR) Post #An6L6B1T3p0WEgTbIO by mhunt@socel.net
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@davidrevoy Temu is Chinese... the website was blocked in the US
(DIR) Post #An6LSi3utw2V4pMmZ6 by Stoof@bananachips.club
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@davidrevoy Temu is terrible for theft. So many artists I know are finding their work for sale on Temu's site.Another reason no one should buy from Temu imo
(DIR) Post #An6QfPwy3IssRFzkXY by odysseywestra@linuxrocks.online
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@davidrevoy For the AI side, I'm okay with using it for marketing purposes, but not respecting the CC licensing is Atrous. You should do what you can to get them to obey or ask the @eff guys to help you send the correct legal documents to at least get them to follow the CC liscense.With that said, I would purchase to verify the quality. Then launch your own limited run T-Shirt and donate the proceeds to a foundation if you don't want to profit from it. So in my eyes I see an opportunity.
(DIR) Post #An6QiBmdBEobN0TvJA by arlequin@fosstodon.org
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@davidrevoy beautiful art, by the way.Shared it with my sister. For the kids ;-)Also, my Linux wallpaper changed ;-)
(DIR) Post #An7vXASr2FexpaPqUK by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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Quick update: Temu wrote me this morning that they have removed the product:> "[...] After receiving your infringement notice, we quickly reviewed the submitted materials and removed the infringing content [...] TEMU's stance on infringement aligns with the rights of intellectual property owners because infringement not only harms our shared consumers' interests but also tarnishes TEMU's reputation"Not what I asked for (I wanted the :cc: :ccby: Attribution), but it's still a win. đ
(DIR) Post #An7vZav3eDLaSUlUH2 by welshpixie@mastodon.art
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@davidrevoy ooh, I am surprised
(DIR) Post #An7vkflZxyy6g2c7NY by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@welshpixie Yes, in 24 hours I didn't expect them to be that fast either.
(DIR) Post #An7vsRyL8XZWDCI7Bg by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@Gend4r That is true. Perhaps they are aware of this and are investing in a moderation team to deal with reports quickly.
(DIR) Post #An7vv3asER3hTKYf6O by bison@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy ich mein die sind ne platform wo "jeder" verkaufen kann. wenn jemand gegen irgendwas verstöĂt wird da entsprechend automatisch drauf reagiert.sich mit solchen fĂ€llen beschĂ€ftigten ist zu teuer, das ist alles automatisiert.
(DIR) Post #An7w7W2CJdcl9dHNs8 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy Well, honestly, I think you can be happy they removed it. I wouldn't want to be responsible for any health risks especially when it is clothing for kids. https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceBasedParenting
(DIR) Post #An7wLJhuwc1QycNH6W by tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr
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@Gend4r @davidrevoy Are people complaining to TEMU or only on social networks ?
(DIR) Post #An7wLKI4mAwgmlI9Sq by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@tanavit @Gend4r Tanavit: I don't think the removal was a decision made because of pressure from here (that's what I understand when you write "social media"); just a result (probably semi-automated) of me filling out their long form behind their "report" button.
(DIR) Post #An7xun5xlytwD96J3w by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@aurochs Unfortunately, you will probably only receive contact details from a Chinese company from Temu and because China doesn't acknowledge copyright you won't be able to receive anything. The rules for platforms concerning copyright infringement need an update.
(DIR) Post #An7yCsCRX7ABFrkoIS by fabianegli@fosstodon.org
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@davidrevoy A win indeed. But also a reminder that big platforms don't aim for the right solution, but just a solution which reduces their liability. Temu is known for draconian punishments of sellers for real or perceived harm to them or to customers.
(DIR) Post #An7z1YnHRXYDpz9avw by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@tanavit @Gend4r Oh yes, that's a classic. Good point. Here I have the reflex thanks to my years in the Free/Libre and Open-Source community: report the bug first if you can, and complain later about it. đș
(DIR) Post #An7zV9MoXnhnfHsrwW by davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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@aurochs đ ha ha, I think I can forget that: it is not even mentioned in the email. This type of product is probably still profitable for both the seller and Temu's percentage commission.
(DIR) Post #An80jjC0F4EgmhLHHM by Shatur@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy on a related note, is there a way to buy Pepper & Carrot merch somewhere? đ€
(DIR) Post #An86w2pBfyAMs7vVs8 by pipeliner@mastodon.online
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@davidrevoy damn, would be good to buy this and you can earn a little bit of money
(DIR) Post #An87rj3LLQHoLa3JPU by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@davidrevoy You could contact the seller directly on Temu to get the attribution, if it helps you to promote your art under the CC license. I guess you already thought about it for findings in the future..
(DIR) Post #An8AI4lbR34583Rlya by frodo@kanoa.de
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@davidrevoy Try it again and ask for the :cc: :ccby: Attribution again.
(DIR) Post #An8LxOBjEN4qjRZMFE by randomlygeneratedusername@sosial.link
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@davidrevoy >I wonder how they managed to sell 568 of them"Oh is that the latest Dave Rave? I'm investing, itt'l be worth millis down the line. Millis!
(DIR) Post #An8MBC2RCUGX6Vo1bc by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
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@aurochs They should but in their view and their lawyer's view, they are only a platform and can't be held responsible for third-party content. Therefore we need regulations that shift the responsibility to the platform if their customer doesn't pay for damages.
(DIR) Post #An8PV0ipHdwPf3m3Cy by cerement@social.targaryen.house
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@davidrevoy @tanavit @Gend4r (problem is weâve had so many cases of companies ignoring issues until theyâre called out on xitter that people how see that as the default rather than as the second step)
(DIR) Post #AnCJVYC50v24NbAfgG by mhunt@socel.net
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@davidrevoy that's great!