From: "Borneo"Date: Mon Apr 9, 2001 0:23am Subject: Re: [80sBBS] Digest Number 60 Reply follows bellow... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Scott" To: <80sBBS@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [80sBBS] Digest Number 60 > I think there is a dearth of single-line, dial-in BBSes available today > for the same reason there is a dearth of horse-and-buggy combinations. > Things just got better. You can do more in a smaller amount of space, and > reach many magnitudes more folks. Well if you call the decimation of personal freedom and choice things getting better I will gladly call for a harking back to the good ol' days when you were not a slave to some ISP's ToS or some corporations whim. When you could still design your interactive environment as you saw fit. While the technology that we use to present our digital worlds may have indeed improved, the environment from which within we present those worlds has most assuredly downgraded. There was a point in time where one did not have to worry about losing there connection to the world(phone line then, Net access now) simply because they had content that someone at the phone co. didn't like... (Save for the days of sun devil) never the less you could place on your BBS what you saw fit simply because you deemed to do so. Where as now if *ANY* of your content violates your ISP's ToS then you can kiss your connection goodbye if they discover that your not playing by there rules. Now I ask how exactly is that an improvement? Lastly you speak of the magnitude or volume of people now being able to access your system... This has both positive and negative aspects to it... Positive being that people no longer have to call LD to reach a system they like... And you could now have people from all over the planet connecting to your system... However the down side to that is you lose any community feeling your board had and you lose your individuality becoming just another cog in the vastness that is the Net... And unlike the real world where you can tell people about your BBS up close and personal as well as advertise it... On the Net advertising is despised and 99% of the people out there will wonder why they should bother calling a BBS when the various forms & forums of the Net offer so much more. Theirs no way to show them what kind of history or interconnected community exists within the Tiny World of the BBS. So while there are many positives to Telnet and even Web-BBS's ... It seems that the Net is more likely to swallow our hobby rather than to help perpetuate it. As the man said we are now in the belly of the beast, whether it digests us is now upto the fates, since the BBS community seems to have no direction or organization left to it... Unlike the old dial-up days. > I do field a lot of mail from people who say that the new technology and > websites don't have the intimate and honest feel of the old BBSes. I would have to say I whole heatedly agree with them... The Web is a cold faceless world. Though it does provide a kind of global information connectivity that the BBS can't, it also strips away any and all of the humanity aspect that the BBS had going for it. > I just don't agree. It's just a different place we came in. As is your right to do so... It is your opinion. However if a good number of people are telling you something over and over again, do ever even for just a moment entertain the idea that they could be correct and might acttualy know what there talking about? > I'm sure that whatever comes after Slashdot, people will pine for > Slashdot's glory days. I some how doubt that... Those who only ever knew the Net are geared to think New is Great and Old is Crap... There will be no great mourning of the passing of the SlashDot era... It will just be another transition into an even more idiot friendly operating environment... I am pained to see a world that so despises ideas, free thinking, personal identity and rising to meet a challenge that is unfolding before us in the NetAge... We used to have to actually know what we were doing and work towards goals to get by back in the days of the BBS and early era of the personal computer... Now any fool with a PC a Modem and WinBlows can jack in and play around. Now this is a positive in such that it connects the world... It however is a big negative in that if you never learned how the technology works you will never respect it. Never have the desire to learn more, but to just follow along with the status qou instead of marching against the grain to meet and conquer new challenges... And without that the digital world we inhabit will stagnate and die. > - Jason Scott > TEXTFILES.COM -Borneo # The Dream -/- FTM 208-321-9188 (WanderNet 1:09/0) JetBBS v5.0g _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com