     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 49             09 Dec 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  3
        A Slanted Look at BBSs  ...................................  3
        2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U  ........................  5
     4. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  7
        Using the Fidonews  .......................................  7
     5. FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS  ...................................  8
        FTSC ELECTION UNDERWAY  ...................................  8
     6. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  .......................... 12
        How kids used to live  .................................... 12
     7. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  .......................... 14
        Lood Meat  ................................................ 14
     8. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  ..................................... 15
        Doggy story  .............................................. 15
     9. FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS  ................................... 16
        Collin County Station BBS  ................................ 16
     10. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  .................. 17
        FIDONet Software References  .............................. 17
     11. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ..................................... 22
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 22
     12. SPECIAL INTEREST  ........................................ 27
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 27
     13. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 29
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 29
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 31
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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      There is something inherently wrong with a society that creates laws
     to protect the people, then hires lawyers to determine the best way to
     bypass those laws.

                           - Frank Vest -

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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     Back to normal again this week. First out is "A Slanted Look at BBSs"
     by Frank Vest. Does anyone still remember this thing called a BBS?
     Then we've reached day ten of the "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U",
     the trip around Australia article, sent in by David Drummond.

        In a guest editorial, another one from Frank. A recommendation,
     "Using the Fidonews". Someone who followed this recommendation is Todd
     Cochrane, unfortunately it's a little late (it should have appeared in
     last week's issue, but due to certain circumstances this didn't
     happen. "FTSC ELECTION UNDERWAY" is the name of this article about a
     current event.

        Sent in as a joke, I thought "How kids used to live" was better
     suited in Warren Bonner's own column.

        Carol makes a sauce, mainly for cooking meat, she's named the
     recipe "Lood Meat".

        A child joke sent to me by Ward Dossche, "Doggy story" can be found
     in the jokes section. I'm not sure if it was intended for the Snooze,
     but here it is anyway.

        And finally Frank makes a plug for "Collin County Station BBS" in
     the classified ad's section.


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                             A Slanted Look at BBSs
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1


      A Sysop and a User in the Fidonews echo recently had a small
     conversation about Fidonet. The Sysop views Fidonet as a network of
     Sysops where a User is sometimes a pain in the butt. The User seems to
     feel that Fidonet is somewhat opposite of this.

      I'll agree that Fidonet, in the technical sense, is a network of
     Sysops. The Sysop configures the software, hardware, has the phone
     line(s) installed, gets the internet access and all the stuff that
     makes the Fidonet Node function. That's why the name "Sysop", from
     "Systems Operator".

      On the other hand, let's look at a bit of the history of Fidonet. Tom
     Jennings said that the most basic part of Fidonet is the BBS.

     What many a Sysop doesn't realize/recognize is;

      Fidonet was created for the BBS. Fidonet did not create the BBS.
     There were BBSs around before Fidonet. The purpose, and creation, of
     Fidonet was to allow communication between these BBSs.

      This is much the same as the internet. The internet didn't create
     networks. The internet was created because networks needed/wanted a
     way to communicate between each other.

      Even the Fidonet Nodelist reflects this. After the Node number in the
     Fidonet Nodelist is a field for the BBS name (or, name of the system).
     If Fidonet were only a network of Sysops, why bother with a BBS name
     field there? That field could just as easily be left out, or be made a
     "user" flag.

      Yes, I realize that this is changing.... sad, isn't it? The "BBS
     Name" field is being used for the IP address of internet Nodes. I am
     not saying that this is bad... just sad that the field, that was once
     used by programs to make lists of BBSs and find the name of a BBS in
     your area, is being replaced. However, this article isn't written to
     discuss the format, or use, of the Nodelist.

     Anyway;

      Without the Users in Fidonet, there would be little reason to have
     600+ message echos. One message echo would do just fine. All of the
     Sysops could connect there to complain about policy, each other and
     whatever. Netmail would be where Sysops complained in private about
     other Sysops. The one message echo would be where the Sysops praise
     the ones they complain about in Netmail. Um.. er.. uh.. that sounds
     familiar... :-)

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      Yes, Users can be a pain in the butt. Of course, that is why the
     Sysops who still run a BBS make rules for their BBS. That is why BBS
     software generally has security levels, "banned lists" and other
     security options to deal with the pain in the butt User. In the long
     run, however, the User is the reason for Fidonet to exist... just as
     much as for the internet to exist. Without the Users, the Internet
     dies. Without the Users, Fidonet dies. Of course, there are those that
     think that Fidonet will still be operating. They are correct. Fidonet
     will be running as a bunch of Sysops with 600+ message echos having no
     messages except the occasional "Is anyone here?" posted by some Sysop
     that happened to be bored that day.

      Personally, if it weren't for the Users on my BBS, I'd probably drop
     Fidonet and the BBS. I enjoy having Users call my BBS, play the games,
     read the message areas and other stuff. That's why I run a BBS and why
     I joined Fidonet. YMMV.

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                 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U
               Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305

     Day 10 - Tuesday 13th August (Mt Isa)

     Said farewell to Ron, then David and I went with Al Geritz up to the
     hospital to collect Rick's bags from the publican from Urandangie. Had
     a short chat with him. He confirmed that Rick came off on a straight
     stretch where there wasn't any bulldust. He said they got him onto a
     tarp, then slid that onto the mattress and 8 guys then got him into
     the back of the truck.  He said he would bring the bike into town on
     Friday or Monday.  There was another bike he had to take to town as
     well, which had a big hole in the sump.

     We got Rick's jeans, sneakers and camera out of the bags, and took
     them up to him. He looked much better this morning.  He didn't need
     anything else, except his belt if we could find it.  He asked us to
     throw away his helmet.

     We then went with Al to Campbell's coaches, weighed in Rick's bags at
     25kg and sent them to Brisbane, addressed to Ron Durkin.  We put Ron's
     mobile number down as well.  The girl said they would ring him when it
     arrived.  She then said she thought she knew David from somewhere.  He
     immediately denied it, but she persisted.  It eventually transpired
     that she had been a student at Martin College and remembered him as
     the "I.T. Dude".  Al was much amused by this and vowed to never let
     David forget it!

     Back at the campsite, Al packed up and left, with our well wishes.  He
     hoped to get as far as Winton.

     We washed our sheet (silk sleeping bag liner) and  pillow cases, then
     headed out to Lake Moondarra, the water supply for Mt Isa.  There
     isn't any camping allowed at the dam, but by golly it has some nice
     recreation areas - beautifully grassed with lovely big shade trees. We
     walked over the dam wall and back, then sat by the water's edge with
     the black swans, ducks and pelicans, to eat our lunch and relax.

     Back in town, we did some shopping for dinner, checked the post office
     to see if my part had arrived (it hadn't), and went up to the hospital
     to visit Rick.  He wasn't feeling too bad, although he said "Pain is
     my friend".  The doctor was about the pull out the drain on his lung,
     so we didn't stay long.  He had been trying to find out what would
     happen about his thumb, but hadn't been able to get an answer.

     Ate in tonight, for a change.  We had bought a bowl of Garden Salad
     which we had with chicken fillets cooked on the barbeque in the camp
     kitchen.  We finished off with a bowl of fruit salad and cup of Milo.

     Went up after dinner to see Rick again.  He was fairly bright.  The
     nurse explained that he wouldn't be flown anywhere for a while,
     because of the problems with his lung, so he should expect to stay in
     Mt Isa for several weeks.  When he is well enough, he could coach back
     to Brisbane (25 hours) or train, but that would be very expensive. She
     said they never set collar bones, and they couldn't do his thumb until
     his lungs are better, because of the dangers of anaesthetic. Rick
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     encouraged us to continue with our holiday.  "I'm a big boy now" he
     said.


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                              GUEST EDITORIAL
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                               Using the Fidonews
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1

      Maybe I'm preaching to the wall here. So be it.

      Ladies and Gentlemen. One of the cornerstones of Fidonet is the
     Fidonews. In fact, the Fidonews is quite likely the most important
     medium in Fidonet. True, not all Sysops in Fidonet read the Fidonews.
     However, the Fidonews is available to all of Fidonet.

      Recently, in Fidonet, there has been a push for a revision of Fidonet
     Policy.

      Currently, there is a FTSC election happening.

      Little coverage of these events has been in the Fidonews. Yeah, I
     know.... "It's been discussed in <echo tag> for weeks now." ....
     I hear this all the time.

      True, this or that echo may be open to the public and very popular
     with "some" Sysops. On the other hand, the Fidonews is /the/
     newsletter of Fidonet. Contrary to popular belief, not /ALL/ Sysops
     read, or even connect to, FN_SYSOP and other such echos.

      Now, you're going to argue that "it's their fault if they don't read
     <echo tag>" echo. That may be true, but, is <echo tag> /the/ echo for
     Fidonet?  The Fidonews is /the/ newsletter of Fidonet. An event such
     as a revision of Policy, election of FTSC members and such that affect
     Fidonet should at least be announced in the Fidonews with updates of
     progress submitted to the Fidonews for publication.

      Ladies and Gentlemen. The Fidonews could, and should, be the place to
     publicize Fidonet events, elections and other important happenings in
     Fidonet. Fail to use the Fidonews for such things in Fidonet and you
     fail Fidonet.  JMHO.

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                          FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS
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                      FTSC ELECTION UNDERWAY
                    By Todd Cochrane, 1:10/345

     I had been gone for a couple of months overseas and arrived home to
     see a great deal of discussion in the FTSC_Public echo about the FTSC
     being dead. There were talks about re-forming the Organization under a
     new name and a couple of other rambling ideas.

     All of the current Standing Members terms have expired thus we need to
     re-fill those positions. I am one of those expired Standing members so
     I felt it my responsibility to get the FTSC re-staffed with fresh
     blood. After all A election should have been held last year but was
     not.

     I set off to find Colin Turner the current Adminstrator who's term is
     set to expire in December I wanted to see what his plan was. His BBS
     has been offline a few months due to massive hardware problems
     compounded by moving. He responded to a e-mail I sent him and the end
     result was he authorized me to move forward  with having an election.

     The FTSC Charter does not define well how the election is to be run.
     Thus I utilized some common sense and In the matter of a few hours I
     wrote the election rules. I posted them in FTSC_Public along with
     several other worldwide echos. I allowed 1 week for the rules to be
     commented on. I received no negative feedback and proceeded to kick
     off the election. My goal was to have everything wrapped up before
     Christmas.

     I really should have posted a message in Fidonews immediately but I
     neglected to do so. I may be late in posting a announcement in
     Fidonews but it is not to late for you to become involved. The
     election could have been over and done with but The IC sent me a
     message last week in which he notified me that he had just found out
     that an election was in progress we had been at it for 3 weeks
     already. I was kinda of shocked thinking that the traffic in that echo
     and the talk in FN-Sysop would have alerted everyone. Well I had just
     closed the nominations and was proceeding to collect ballots. With
     this revelation that I may have indeed moved to fast. I stopped the
     voting opened up nominations for 2 more weeks and extended the
     election process.

     I have worked hard this week to get the word out and hopefully all of
     the key players are now aware of the election. So here is your chance
     get into the FTSC_Public echo and find out what is going on. If you
     want to run for a office get your nomination and confirmation in via
     the means laid out in the Election Rules.

     I relaxed Nomination requirements for this election cycle seeing we no
     longer had a active FTSC Standing member body to dictate the election
     process.

     I have removed myself as a potential candidate I will not run for
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     another term.  The rules are fair and should result in us getting a
     great group to further the FTSC Charter and insure that the
     documentation of the Technical aspects of this network are maintained.

     I hope that the newly elected Standing Members and New Administrator
     have the fortitude to do what is right and broaden the FTSC Charter.

     The election rules follow after my comments. To see a list of the
     current Nominations and Confirmations please check-in with the
     FTSC_Public echo.

     One last point I assume 100% responsibility for this elections
     success or failure. We are all human and this is just a hobby
     but I will do my best to see we have a fair election

     Todd Cochrane
     1:10/345
     cochrane@bbsnets.com

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     Revised Election Rules for Election Nomination Extension

     1. Beginning at 0001 on 11 November 2002 at GMT -10/Hawaiian Standard
        Time I will accept nominations for the FTSC Standing Member post.
        Nominations will be closed at 2359 on 7 DEC 2002 GMT -10.

     As outline in section 3.2 of FTA-1001
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     Standing members may be nominated Fidonet-wide by all of the
       following methods:

       1. Any RC or REC.
       2. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the FTSC.
       3. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the ZCC.

       A nominating committee may not consist of any current member or
       officer of the FTSC.
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     2. I will accept nominations from any RC or REC. It is not in the
        charter but as the election coordinator and being we are in a
        unique situation I will accept nominations directly from members
        in good standing. They may nominate themselves or others. The
        nominee will still have to obtain a Majority Vote

     3. All Nominations and all election business will take place in the
        FTSC_Public echo any e-mail or private netmail sent to me will be
        upon receipt be forwarded to this echo. So I am warning all parties
        any attempt to subvert this election process will be brought to the
        attention of the entire Fidonet Network.

     4. We will elect at a minimum 7 and at a maximum 30.
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     Standing members are appointed on the basis of a vote by all RCs and
     RECs who are nodelisted as holding those positions at the time the
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     nominations are published. A successful candidate must receive
     approval by a majority of votes.

     Publication of the nomination and the voting procedure, and posting of
     RC and REC votes, shall take place openly in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, and
     voting shall close three weeks after publication of the vote.
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     5. Candidates will be required to confirm there nomination to run. The
        election coordinator will send netmail and echomail to each nominee
        and they will be required to confirm there nomination in the
        FTSC_Public Echo. Candidates are required to confirm they want to
        run by 10DEC02 at 2359 -10 GMT

     6. I will post a voting ballot to the FTSC_Public echo on 11 December.

     7. Candidates nominated will be allowed to campaign and answer
        questions during the nomination period.

     8. Candidates must receive a majority or 50% of the vote of all RC's
        and REC's that vote.

     Examples:
                 16 Total RC and REC Vote

     Joe Sysop #1 8-Yes 8-No <--- Elected <<<---See Note 8
     Joe Sysop #2 7-Yes 9-No <--- Not Elected
     Joe Sysop #3 9-yes 7-No <--- Elected
     Joe Sysop #4 8-yes 2-No 6-Abstain <---Elected
     Joe Sysop #5 7-yes 5-No 3-Abstain <---Not Elected

     If more than 30 candidates are nominated the RC and REC will be
     limited to voting (Yes) 30 times. NOTE:The RC's and REC are not
     obligated to vote for 30 candidates. All candidates must receive a
     majority or 50% of those RC and REC voting to be elected. Any
     candidate unable to obtain a majority of 50% will not be elected.

     9. Voting will commence on 11DEC02 and will close on 22Dec02 at 2359
        -10 GMT Voting will be publicly in the FTSC_Public echo The TO:
        Column will be addressed to Todd Cochrane The SUBJECT LINE: Will
        have the following info  Region XX RC First Last Name or Region XX
        REC First Last Name

     10. Results will be posted for a 2 week period upon completion of the
         election.

     11. Transition and Access to all private echo's will commence on 23
         Dec for all elected members. Some of the Major hubs carry the
         private echo's many do not. So in many case peer to peer feeds
         will need to be established. I can help in the transition period
         to insure all members have a reliable hub to pull the private FTSC
         echos in case this is needed.

     13. 1/2 of the new members will receive 2 year terms and 1/2 of the
         members will receive 3 year terms I will work up a fair way to
         assign the term limits.
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     These rules are subject to modification by the Election Cordinator.


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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                            How kids used to live
                              By Warren Bonner
                            wdbonner@pacbell.net

     What an eye opener!! You lived as a child in the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60s
     or the 70s. (Some of us in the 20's)!

     Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we
     have.................

     As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.
     Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a
     special treat.  Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
     lead-based paint.

     We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and
     when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention hitchhiking
     to town as a young kid!)

     We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

     Horrors.

     We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode
     down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running
     into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem.

     We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we
     were back when the streetlights came on.

     No one was able to reach us all day. No cell phones.

     Unthinkable.

     We played dodge ball and sometimes the ball would really hurt.

     We got cut and broke bones and broke teeth and there were no lawsuits
     from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame but us.

     Remember accidents?

     We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and
     learned to get over it.

     We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda but we were
     never overweight........we were always outside playing.

     We shared one grape soda with four friends, from one bottle and no one
     died from this?

     We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X Boxes, video games at
     all, 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal
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     cellular phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms..... we had
     friends.

     We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's
     home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and
     talked to them.

     Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves!  Out
     there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do it?

     We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms and
     although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many
     eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever.

     Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who
     didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment.

     Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and
     were held back to repeat the same grade...Horrors! Tests were not
     adjusted for any reason.

     Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected. No one to hide
     behind. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was
     unheard of. They actually sided with the law, imagine that!

     This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem
     solvers and inventors, ever!

     The past 60 years has been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
     We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned
     how to accept, cope with, ignore and/or handle all situations.

     And may be you're one of them, if you are..... Congratulations!  You
     are (or may be), in my club!!!  If not, you probably are a geek or
     wizard or a or a "Fidonet Nut", <smile>.

     Warm Regards,
     Ol'wdb


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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                        Lood Meat
                  By Carol Shenkenberger

           Yield: 10 Servings

           4 c  Water
           2 c  Shoyu (soy sauce)
           1    Star anise
         1/2 c  Rice wine
           4 sl Fresh ginger
           5 tb Sugar

       Oh my!  What a sauce!  This is simple easy cookery.  Basically you
     make a boiling sauce of the above, then boil the meats in it.  Suits a
     whole chicken, chopped chicken, beef, pork, or even lamb! Especially
     good at tenderizing cheap cuts of meat.

       Note it is also listed as 'low-fat'.  Humm?  Well this method of
     cooking the meat, tends to make a lower fat meat as much of the fats
     end up in the sauce.  The chicken will come out even *better* if you
     skin it first.

       Cost factor:  You can use this boiling sauce almost forever if you
     refridgerate it between uses and boil it with each use.

       Alternate spices:  add chinese 5 spice!  Use a sprig of fresh anise
     leaves!


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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                         Doggy story
                  By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854

      A little girl asked her mother, "Mom, may I take the dog for a walk
     around the block?". Mom replies, "No, because she is on heat." "What's
     that mean?" asked the child. "Go ask your father. I think he's in the
     garage."

      The little girl goes to the garage and says, "Dad, may I take Belle
     for a walk around the block? I asked Mom, but she said the dog was on
     heat, and to come to you".

      Dad said, "Bring Belle over here." He took a rag, soaked it with
     petrol, and scrubbed the dog's backside with it and said, "Okay, that
     should take care of that problem, You can go now, but keep Belle on
     the leash and only go one time around the block."

      The little girl left, and returned a few minutes later with no dog on
     the leash.

      Surprised, Dad asked, "Where's Belle?" The little girl said, "She ran
     out of petrol about halfway around the block, so another dog is
     pushing her home".

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                          FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS
     =================================================================

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                                McKinney, Texas
                               Fidonet 1:124/6308
                       would like to invite you to visit.

      If you are in the Dallas Metro or McKinney, Texas area, you can dial
                         into the BBS at 972-562-8064.

                    We also have telnet access upon request.
                e-mail; Frank Vest,  flv (at) sbcglobal (dot)net
            and we will be happy to tell you about the telnet access

           Currently running Inter-BBS "Word War", "Triple Yahtzee",
                        BRE League 70, L.O.R.D. and more

                         Fidonet Echos for your reading

                    50+ games online via dial-up and telnet

                           Most games are registered

                        We try to be a User Friendly BBS

                            Drop by a visit us. :-)

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      Argus                |M    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/  2:469/84
                           |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Tel: 373-2-246889
                           |     | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BeeMail:             |M    |http://beemail.gexonline.net   1:105/10
       Stephen Proffit     |     |

      BinkleyTerm XE       |M    |http://btxe.sourceforge.net     1:1/102
                           |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                |MI   |http://2f.ru/binkd/
                           |     | maloff@corbina.net
                           |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000

      Fidonet to Internet: |MI   |http://www.terminate.com
       Bo Bendtsen         |     | sales@terminate.com
                           |     | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997

      FrontDoor, FD/APX:   |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se          2:201/330
       Definite Solutions  |     | sales@defsol.se                1:1/101
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net  v1?: Nov 11th 2002

      InterMail, InterEcho,|MT   |http://www.ifido.com            1:1/133
       Allfix              |     | sales@ifido.com
                           |     | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF

      Tmail                |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | Tel: (305) 248-3204
       Software, Inc.      |     | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002
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      Fidogate             |TUI  |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.4

      FMail                |T    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org       2:280/1076
                           |     | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys      |TU   |http://www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 18                   9 Dec 2002


       (ATARI ST only)     |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000

      Squish               |T    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v1.11
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      Synchronet BBS       |TB   |http://www.synchro.net
                           |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                           |     | v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002

      Watergate            |TUI  |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/
                           |     | ramon@sbbs.se
                           |     | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
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      BBBS                 |BI   |http://www.bbbs.net  b@bbbs.net
                           |     | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999      2:22/222

      ELEBBS: The Elevator |B    |http://www.elebbs.com
       Software Production |     | elebbs@elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

      Falken BBS           |B    |http://falkenbbs.com
                           |     | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002

      Hermes II Project    |B    |http://www.hermesii.org
                           |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS          |B    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v3.01
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      MBSE BBS:            |BI   |http://mbse.sourceforge.net  2:280/2802
       Michiel Broek       |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                           |     | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002

      Mystic BBS           |B    |http://www.mysticbbs.com
                           |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      Nexus BBS            |B    |http://www.nexusbbs.net
                           |     | groberts@nexusbbs.net
                           |     | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001

      Proboard BBS         |B    |http://www.proboard.be
                           |     | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002

      RemoteAccess BBS:    |B    |http://www.rapro.com            1:1/120
       Bruce Morse         |     | bfmorse@rapro.com
                           |     | v2.62.2SW

      Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
       Creek Software      |     | MDWoltz@aol.com                1:1/150
                           |     | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999

      Telegard BBS         |B    |http://www.telegard.net
                           |     | support@telegard.net
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 19                   9 Dec 2002


                           |     | v3.09g2 SP4
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Atlantis Software    |D    |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
                           |     | last update: Jun 2002

      BBS Central          |D    |http://www.rpcomputers.com

      Bentstone            |D    |http://www.srupc.com/mall
       Capabilities Group  |     | info@stonebenders.com

      Cheepware:           |D    |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/
       Sean Dennis         |     | hausmaus@midnightshour.org    1:11/200

      DDS (Doorware        |D    |http://www.doorgames.org     1:2404/201
       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
       Ruth Argust         |     |

      DoorMUD              |D    |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org
                           |     | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002

      Elysium Software     |D    |http://www.elysoft.com
                           |     | mpreslar@mailcity.com

      Jibben Software      |D    |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
                           |     | scott@jibben.com
                           |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      JNS Software:        |D    |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/
       Rusty Johnson       |     | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
                           |     | Tel: (304) 733-0113

      John Dailey Software |D    |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
                           |     | support@johndaileysoftware.com

      LORD (Legend of the  |D    |http://www.lordlegacy.org
       Red Dragon) Reborn  |     | mike@lordlegacy.org
                           |     | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001

      Lord-II IGMs         |D    |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/

      PC Pursuits          |D    |http://www.pcpursuits.com
                           |     | brucep@pop.kis.net
                           |     | Tel: (301) 240-6653

      Shining Star         |D    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                           |     | nannette@shiningstar.net

      Sunrise Doors:       |D    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
       Al Lawrence         |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                           |     | Tel: (404) 256-9518

      The Brainex System   |D    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                           |     | stanley@brainex.com  1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars           |D    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 20                   9 Dec 2002


                           |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                           |     | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

      Vagabond Software:   |D    |http://www.vbsoft.org        1:124/7013
       Bryan Turner        |     | vagabond@vbsoft.org
                           |     | last update: Jul 17th 2002

      (various)            |D    |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      APoint               |PI   |http://www.apoint-mail.de
                           |     | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
                           |     | v1.25                   2:2426/1210.13

      OpenXP/32            |PI   |http://www.openxp.com        2:248/2004
                           |     | mk@openxp.de  v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002
      OpenXP/16            |P    |http://www.openxp16.de       2:2433/460
                           |     | my@openxp16.de v3.40 RC3 Apr 28th 2002
      CrossPoint (XP)      |P    |http://www.crosspoint.de
                           |     | pm@crosspoint.de  v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999

      PPoint               |P    |http://www.alcuf.ca           1:249/114
                           |     | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000

      Terminate            |P    |http://www.terminate.com
                           |     | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997
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      GoldEd+              |E    |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/   2:203/6600
                           |     | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Nov 10th 2002

      SqEd32               |E    |http://www.sqed.de
                           |     | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
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      GiGo                 |UI   |http://www.gigo.com
                           |     | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997

      Internet Rex:        |UI   |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
       Charles Cruden      |     | telnet://xanadubbs.ca        1:342/806
       (Khan Software)     |     | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet             |UI   |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
                           |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                           |     | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998

      TransX: Multiboard   |UI   |http://www.multiboard.com/software/
       Communications, Inc.|     | support@multiboard.com      1:2401/305
                           |     | v3.5
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      National BBS List    |?    | http://www.usbbs.org

      Hispanic FIDO/BBS's  |?    | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
       (in Spanish only)   |     |  (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 24                   9 Dec 2002


                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3634/12    | Mark Lewis         |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 25                   9 Dec 2002


      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE, BinkP     | 128k  | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-49               Page 26                   9 Dec 2002


     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.340
                size  1035.4kb
                date  2002-12-06

      The nodelist has   9216 nodes in it
        and a total of  11984 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           59 regions
                          450 hosts
                          632 hubs
         admin overhead  1147 ( 12.45 %)

                    and   941 private nodes
                          322 nodes down
                          358 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1621 ( 17.59 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    729 (  7.91 %)
                9600 =   7998 ( 86.78 %)
                              (HST  =  173 or   2.16 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   11 or   0.14 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4343 or  54.30 %)
                              (V32B =  442 or   5.53 %)
                              (V34  = 5285 or  66.08 %)
                              (V42  = 4371 or  54.65 %)
                              (V42B =  465 or   5.81 %)
                2400 =     93 (  1.01 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.08 %)
                 300 =    389 (  4.22 %)

                ISDN =    911 (  9.88 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3239
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 7
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       11
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      48
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     374
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4096
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1435
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2922 ( 31.71 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5002 ( 54.28 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    721 (  7.82 %)
      Other             =    571 (  6.20 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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