     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 38             23 Sep 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. TOP STORIES  ..............................................  3
        It's alive ... it's alive ... the "fidonet.org"-domain  ...  3
     4. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  4
        2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U  ........................  4
     5. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  5
        Oven Beef Stew for 2  .....................................  5
     6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  .....................................  6
        Slow Down The Cars  .......................................  6
        MOSES AND THE COMPUTER  ...................................  8
     7. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................... 10
        FIDONet Software References  .............................. 10
     8. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 15
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 15
     9. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 20
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 20
     10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 22
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 22
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 24
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     "When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this
     sign: that all the dunces are in confederacy against him."

            -- Jonathon Swift


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                                  INSIDE
     =================================================================

                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     A rather slow issue once again. Top story is from Ward Dossche,
     about the fidonet.ord domain. "It's alive ... it's alive ...", well
     I guess you understand what it's all about.

        The motorcycle trip down under, "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U"
     with David Drummond et al, continues with a report from day 2.

        "Oven Beef Stew for 2" is what's cooking in our kitchen, we find
     Carol behind the pots as usual.

        Finally a couple of jokes from Warren Bonner. "Slow Down The Cars",
     about yet another smart farmer, plus a somewhat strange one called
     "Moses and the computer".


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                                TOP STORIES
     =================================================================

          It's alive ... it's alive ... the "fidonet.org"-domain
                     By Ward Dossche 2:292/854

     It hardly needs any comment, we all know that there's something
     terribly wrong with the management of the "fidonet.org"-domain.

     No need for finger-pointing or finding a scapegoat. The situation
     seems to have been that former ZC/1 and IC George Peace who pulled out
     of Fidonet years ago maintained the administrative and technical data
     on the internet and paid the bills for keeping the domain listed.

     There was a gradual loss of contact with Fidonet and as a result
     several elements started to downgrade, updates did not occur. In the
     same process webmasters for sites as www.fidonet.org,
     www.z2.fidonet.org, etc... seemed to have been vaporised and
     consequently the updating of some of these webpages is years overdue.

     All that is about to come to an end.

     George Peace and I reached a common understanding a while back that
     the fidonet.org-domain will be transferred back inside Fidonet to a
     trusted sysop, with the necessary knowledge and experience to run
     things, upon recommendation by the IC. This person will be Johan
     Zwiekhorst of 2:292/100 (RC29 too). He's one of the oldest surviving
     sysops (old in Fido-years) and has my confidence.

     There will be a transition period of course and though major portions
     of fidonet.org are not up-to-date, some others such as for instance
     the zone-3 portion appears to be in working order. To avoid
     interruption of service it might be best that people who administer
     sub-sets of the domain get in touch with Johan.

     Contact with the "DNS-master" will be possible via an
     echomail-conference 'FIDONET.ORG' which has already been linked to
     1:140/1 (Bob Seaborn) and 2:2432/200 (Sven Dueker), hopefully from
     there it will find its way to whomever needs it. Johan Zwiekhorst has
     been linked too and an e-list request was sent out, so none of you
     wiseguys need even try to capture it.

     Let's have some fun.

     Greetings from Belgium,

     Ward Dossche
          IC


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U
               Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305

     Day 2 - Monday 5 August (Bunya Mts to Theodore)

     Didn't hurry out of bed this morning - too cold still.  Heard Rick
     muttering, so thought we should stir ourselves.  The wind in the night
     had stopped any condensation on the fly, but my freshly oiled chain
     had dropped oil on David's jacket.  Oh well.  Also discovered a stress
     crack in our 500ml Nalgene container.  I didn't think they were
     supposed to ever crack?  I suppose we've had it for a while ...

     All bikes started okay despite the cold.  We followed the road down
     the mountain and fuelled up at Kumbia.  After studying the maps, we
     headed cross-country.  I was in the lead.  David said to head for
     Durong South.  Whenever we came to an intersection with a signpost,
     that's what I did.  It turns out that wasn't quite the way Rick wanted
     to go, but we got there okay anyway.  There were some pleasant little
     dirt stretches in there.

     Then we went up the seal to Mundubbera.  Stopped for lunch at the
     bakery, stocked up on mandarins at the supermarket and headed out on
     the Coonambula Road for the shortcut to Cracow.  The road became a
     dirt one after a while, which wasn't too bad, then, just around a
     corner, there was a gate over the road, and it was just a 2 wheel dirt
     track after that.  Hmm.  That doesn't look right.

     After a few discussions, we ended up back-tracking all the way to
     Mundubbera and following the highway to Eidsvold, then on to Cracow.
     Arrived at Cracow to find only Peter Allan at the campground.  Stopped
     for a drink and a chat.  Left Rick to wait for the troupe (Ron Durkin
     (RTO), Allan Miller, The Swiss, Fotofast Phil and who knows who else),
     and we continued on to Theodore.

     While we were fuelling up at the pumps, I was alarmed to see smoke
     coming from my engine.  I had an oil leak.  It wasn't pouring out,
     just enough to make a mess and burn off on the hot exhaust pipe.  We
     asked the lady about the caravan park.  She suggested we just go down
     to Junction Park and camp there for free.  The caravan park looked a
     bit like a junk yard, so we took her advice.  We rode the bikes
     between the bollards to camp on the grass, rather than the dirt
     outside, had a hot shower in the fairly basic amenities block, washed
     our clothes, then wandered up to the Theodore Hotel (a quite flash
     looking joint) for a drink and a roast chicken dinner.

     We were accompanied to the Hotel by a corgi-blue heeler cross, and I
     dreamt that night about Rusty, the corgi we had when I was a kid.



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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                    Oven Beef Stew for 2

           Yield: 3 Servings

           1 tb Flour
         3/4 ts Salt
             ds Black pepper
         3/4 lb Beef chuck, cut 1 inch cubes
           1 tb Shortening
           1 cn 10.5 oz condensed tomatosoup
           1 cn Water
         3/4 c  Chopped onion
         1/4 ts Dried basil
           2 md Potatoes, cubed
           2 md Carrots, cut 1 inch pieces
         1/4 c  Dry red wine or beef broth

       Combine flour, salt nad pepper and coat meat with it.  Brown in hot
     shortening in a small dutch oven or heavy fry pan.  Add soup, water,
     onion and basil and bake covered at 375 degrees for 1 hour.  Add rest
     and bake 1 hour or until tender.

       Goes perfectly with crusty baking soda cheese bread and a slice of
     edam cheese, and a light green salad of green peppers, butter lettuce,
     and mushrooms with a delicate olive oil and vinigar dressing.  Serve
     fresh fruit for dessert such as green seedless grapes and star fruit
     (in season).

       From the kitchen of: xxcarol


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                                Slow Down The Cars
                       By Warren Bonner, wdbonner@pacbell.net

     A farmer lived on a quiet rural highway. But, as time went by, the
     traffic slowly built up at an alarming rate. The traffic was so heavy
     and so fast that his chickens were being run over at a rate of three
     to six a day.

     So one day he called the sheriff's office and said, You've got to do
     something about all of these people driving so fast and killing all of
     my chickens."

     "What do you want me to do?" asked the sheriff.

     "I don't care, just do something about those speeding drivers."

     So the next day he had the county Road Team go out and put up a sign
     that said:

     SLOW: SCHOOL CROSSING.

     Three days later the farmer called the sheriff and said, "You've got
     to do something about these drivers. The 'school crossing' sign seems
     to make them go faster." So, again, the sheriff sends out the county
     Road Team and they put up a new sign:

     SLOW: CHILDREN AT PLAY.

     And that really sped them up. So the farmer called and called and
     called everyday for three weeks. Finally, he asked the sheriff, "Your
     signs are doing no good. Is it all right for me to put up my own
     sign?"

     The sheriff told him, "Sure thing, put up your own sign." He was going
     to let the farmer do just about anything in order to have him stop
     calling. Well, the sheriff got no more calls from the farmer.

     Three weeks after the farmers last call, the sheriff decided to call
     him. "How's the problem with those drivers. Did you put up your sign?"

     "Oh, I sure did. And not one chicken has been killed since then. I've
     got to go. I'm very busy." And he hung up the phone. The sheriff
     thought to himself, "I'd better go to that farmer's house and look at
     that sign... There might be something there that WE could use to slow
     down drivers..."

     So the sheriff drove out to the farmer's house, and he saw the sign.
     It was a whole sheet of plywood. And written in large Yellow letters
     on Black background were the words:

     SLOW: NUDIST COLONY.

     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 7                   23 Sep 2002


     *^)  Ol'wdb


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                          MOSES AND THE COMPUTER
              passed on by Warren Bonner, wdbonner@pacbell.net

     "Excuse me, Sir"

     "Is that you again, Moses?"

     "Yes, Sir. I have new computer problems, Remember those 10 things You
     sent me?'

     "You mean the 10 Commandments ?"

     "That's it. I was wondering if they're important?'

     "What do you mean 'were important' ? Of course they're important, or I
     wouldn't have sent them to you".

     "Well, sorry Sir, but I lost them."

     "Lost them? Don't you remember I told you to save them?"

     "Yes, but I forgot, but I did send some before I lost them."

     "Did you hear back from any of them?"

     "Well, one guy doesn't like the words "thou shalt not !" Can he change
     the words a little bit?

     "Yes Moses, if he doesn't change the meaning ."

     "And another guy thought the word 'commandments' was too harsh. He
     recommended they be called the "10 Suggestions' , or letting people
     try one or two for awhile."

     "Moses, I'll pretend I didn't hear that"

     "I think that means 'no'. What about the guy who said I was scamming
     him?"

     "The term is 'spamming', Moses."

     "Yeah, I e-mailed him back, and told him I don't even eat that stuff,
     and I have no idea of how to send it through a computer."

     "And what did he say?"

     " He used your name in vain. You don't think he might have sent me one
     of those, ah, plagues, or something, and that's the reason I lost
     those 10 things, do You?'

     "They're not plagues, they're viruses!"

     "Whatever. This computer stuff is just too much for me. Can't we just
     go back to those stone tablets ? They're hard on my back, taking them
     out and reading them every day, but at least I never lost them."

     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 9                   23 Sep 2002


     "We'll do the new way, Moses!"

     "I was afraid You would say that, sir."

     "Moses, what did I tell you to do, if you messed up?"

     "You told me to stretch out this rat toward the computer."

     "It's a Mouse, Moses. MOUSE, MOUSE, MOUSE and did you do that?"

     "No, I decide to try the technical support first. After all, who knows
     more about this stuff than you, and I like your hours. And one other
     thing. Why didn't you name them 'frogs', instead of ' mice', because
     didn't you tell me that they sit on a pad?"

     "I didn't name them, Moses. Man did.  You can name yours 'frog' if you
     want to."

     "Oh, that explains it. Kind of like Adam, huh, sir?" I bet some woman
     told him to call it a mouse. After all, wasn't it a woman who named
     one of the computers Apple?"

     "Say good night, Moses"

     "Wait a minute, sir. I'm stretching out the mouse, and it seems to be
     working. Yes, a couple of the 10 things came back."

     Which ones, Moses?"

     "Let's see. ''Thou shalt not steal from any grave an image', and 'Thou
     shalt not uncover thy neighbor's wife."

     "Turn off the computer, Moses. I'm sending you another set of stone
     tablets."


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                  BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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                    -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=-

         Type: M=Mailer  T=Tosser  B=BBS  D=Door  C=Comm/Terminal
               P=Points  E=Editor  I=Internet  U=Utility  ?=Info

     .- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
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      Argus                |M    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/  2:469/84
                           |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Tel: 373-2-246889
                           |     | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BeeMail:             |M    |http://beemail.gexonline.net   1:105/10
       Stephen Proffit     |     |

      BinkleyTerm XE       |M    |http://btxe.sourceforge.net     1:1/102
                           |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                |MI   |http://2f.ru/binkd/
                           |     | maloff@corbina.net
                           |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000

      Fidonet to Internet: |MI   |http://www.terminate.com
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      FrontDoor, FD/APX:   |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se          2:201/330
       Definite Solutions  |     | sales@defsol.se                1:1/101
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net

      InterMail, InterEcho,|MT   |http://www.ifido.com            1:1/133
       Allfix              |     | sales@ifido.com
                           |     | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF

      Tmail                |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | Tel: (305) 248-3204
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      Fidogate             |TUI  |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.4

      FMail                |T    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org       2:280/1076
                           |     | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys      |TU   |http://www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
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       (ATARI ST only)     |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000

      Squish               |T    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v1.11
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      Synchronet BBS       |TB   |http://www.synchro.net
                           |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                           |     | v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002

      Watergate            |TUI  |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/
                           |     | ramon@sbbs.se
                           |     | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
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      ELEBBS: The Elevator |B    |http://www.elebbs.com
       Software Production |     | elebbs@elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

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                           |     | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002

      Hermes II Project    |B    |http://www.hermesii.org
                           |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS          |B    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v3.01
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      MBSE BBS:            |BI   |http://mbse.sourceforge.net  2:280/2802
       Michiel Broek       |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
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       Creek Software      |     | MDWoltz@aol.com                1:1/150
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                           |     | support@telegard.net
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       Capabilities Group  |     | info@stonebenders.com

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       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
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                           |     | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002

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      LORD (Legend of the  |D    |http://www.lordlegacy.org
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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 17                  23 Sep 2002


      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 18                  23 Sep 2002


      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE, BinkP     | 128k  | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 19                  23 Sep 2002


      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

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     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.263
                size  1047.3kb
                date  2002-09-20

      The nodelist has   9389 nodes in it
        and a total of  12138 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           58 regions
                          454 hosts
                          645 hubs
         admin overhead  1163 ( 12.39 %)

                    and   929 private nodes
                          287 nodes down
                          370 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1586 ( 16.89 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    728 (  7.75 %)
                9600 =   8169 ( 87.01 %)
                              (HST  =  173 or   2.12 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4460 or  54.60 %)
                              (V32B =  459 or   5.62 %)
                              (V34  = 5378 or  65.83 %)
                              (V42  = 4443 or  54.39 %)
                              (V42B =  478 or   5.85 %)
                2400 =     97 (  1.03 %)
                1200 =      8 (  0.09 %)
                 300 =    387 (  4.12 %)

                ISDN =    933 (  9.94 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3326
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-38               Page 21                  23 Sep 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      55
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     381
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4162
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1441
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2981 ( 31.75 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5082 ( 54.13 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    722 (  7.69 %)
      Other             =    604 (  6.43 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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