     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 31             05 Aug 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  ..........................  3
        A WISE TEACHER  ...........................................  3
     4. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  5
        Carol's Baked Squash  .....................................  5
     5. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  .....................................  6
        The Blonde and the Trucker  ...............................  6
        Funny newspaper headlines  ................................  7
        THE SWING  ................................................  9
     6. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................. 10
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 10
     7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 14
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 14
     8. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 19
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 19
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 21
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 21
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 23
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial
     reasons.

            -- Bertrand Russell


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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     For the second week in a row a former Fidonews Editor makes up for
     half of the submissions in this issue. Last week it was Frank Vest,
     this week it's Warren Bonner. In his column he writes about "A WISE
     TEACHER". A rather sentimental story from the time of the Vietnam war.

        Then two of his jokes made it. "The Blonde and the Trucker" is
     something for us, that's used to snow, ice and wintery roads. Maybe a
     reminder, that the summer, we now enjoy on the northern hemisphere,
     will not last for ever. After that a short piece about common sense,
     and how far that can take you, called "THE SWING".

        In another one for the jokes section, Petko Bossakov has found a
     bunch of "Funny newspaper headlines".

        Finally, in our kitchen this week, Carol makes "Carol's Baked
     Squash". The squash in my garden is growing really great (as usual
     with this easy to grow plant), so I think I'll give it a try in a
     couple of weeks, when they are ready to harvest.


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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                         A WISE TEACHER
                       wdbonner@pacbell.net

     One day a teacher asked her students to list the names of the other
     students in the room on sheets of paper, leaving a space between each
     name.

     Then she told them to think of the nicest thing they could say about
     each of their classmates and write it down under the persons name.

     It took the remainder of the class period to finish their assignment
     and, as the students left the room, each one handed in the papers.

     That Saturday, the teacher wrote down the name of each student on a
     separate sheet of paper, and listed what everyone else had said about
     that individual.

     On Monday, she gave each student his or her list.

     Before long, the entire class was smiling.

     "Really?" she heard whispered. "I never knew that I meant anything to
     anyone!" and, "I didn't know others liked me so much" were some of the
     comments.

     No one ever mentioned those papers in class again. She never knew if
     they discussed them after class or with their parents, but it didn't
     matter. The exercise had accomplished its purpose.

     The students were happy with themselves and one another. That group of
     students moved on.

     Several years later, one of the students was killed in Vietnam and his
     teacher attended the funeral of that special student.

     She had never seen a serviceman in a military coffin before. He looked
     so handsome, so mature. The church was packed with his friends. One by
     one, those who loved him took a last walk by the coffin.

     The teacher was the last one to bless the coffin. As she stood there,
     one of the soldiers, who acted as pallbearer, came up to her.

     "Were you Mark's math teacher?" he asked.

     She nodded: "Yes."

     Then he said: "Mark talked about you a lot."

     After the funeral, most of Mark's former classmates went together to a
     luncheon. Mark's mother and father were there, obviously waiting to
     speak with his teacher.

     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 4                    5 Aug 2002


     "We want to show you something," his father said, taking a wallet out
     of his pocket. "They found this on Mark when he was killed. We thought
     you might recognize it."

     Opening the billfold, he carefully removed two worn pieces of
     notepaper that had obviously been taped, folded and refolded many
     times. The teacher knew, without looking, that the papers were the
     ones on which she had listed all the good things each of Mark's
     classmates had said about him.

     "Thank you so much for doing that," Mark's mother said. "As you can
     see, Mark treasured it."

     All of Mark's former classmates started to gather around.

     Charlie smiled rather sheepishly and said, "I still have my list. It's
     in the top drawer of my desk at home."

     Chuck's wife said, "Chuck asked me to put his in our wedding album."

     "I have mine too," Marilyn said. "It's in my diary."

     Then Vickie, another classmate, reached into her pocketbook, took out
     her wallet and showed her worn and frazzled list to the group. "I
     carry this with me at all times," Vickie said, and without batting an
     eyelash, she continued: "I think we all saved our lists."

     That's when the teacher finally sat down and cried. She cried for Mark
     and for all his friends who would never see him again.

     The density of people in society is so thick that we forget that life
     will end one day, and we don't know when that one day will be.

     So please, tell the people you love and care for, that they are
     special and important. Tell them, before it is too late...

     GOD BLESS,
     Ol'wdb

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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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           Carol's Baked Squash

           Yield: 4 Servings

           4 ea Summer yellow squash
         1/4 c  Lowfat cottage cheese
         1/4 c  Tofu, soft
           1 lg Onion, chopped rough
           1 ea Carrot, chopped small
           1 ea Green pepper, chopped pretty
           1 ts Anise
                Salt and pepper to taste

       Ok, this isnt haute cuisine, but it's tasty and not high in
     calories. Due to the other indredients being 'fat-free' the 1/4 cup
     cottage cheese makes it high fat percentage, but actually a decent
     meal deal on fats because that 1/4 cup is split 4 ways.  Bake at 350
     degrees for about 1 hour.

       An alternative to Anise as a spice is: Cumin, celery seeds, or
     chinese 5 spice.  You can omit all the spices if desired and serve
     with a little bottle of tobasco sauce at the side.

       Goes well with:  Baked chicken, pork chops, or a simple cold boiled
     shrimp dish.

       From the kitchen of xxcarol



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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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                The Blonde and the Trucker
                       By Warren Bonner
                   <wdbonner@pacbell.net>


     (You have to have lived in snow country to appreciate this one.)

      One cold, January day, a trucker stops for red light when a blonde
     girl catches up. She knocks on his door and the trucker rolls down the
     window.

      The girl says "Hi, my name is Heather and you are losing some of your
     load."

      The trucker ignores her and proceeds down the street.

      The trucker stops for another red light and the girl again catches
     up.

      She knocks on the door and the trucker lowers the window only to
     hear, "Hi, my  name is Heather and you are losing some of your load!"

      He ignores her again and continues down the street.

      The trucker stops for still another red light and the girl catches up
     again, all out of breath. She knocks on the door and the trucker
     lowers the  window.

      Again she says "Hi, my name is Heather and you are losing some of
     your load!"

      He dismisses her and starts off down the street, then decides he
     can't stand it anymore and stops. He gets out of the truck, approaches
     the blonde  girl and says: "Hi, my name is Kevin and I am driving a
     SALT TRUCK!"


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                          Funny newspaper headlines
                           Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1

     4-H Girls Win Prizes for Fat Calves
     After Detour to California Shuttle Returns to Earth
     Air Head Fired
     Alcohol Frequently Seen In Cases (from the Colorado Daily News)
     Arson Suspect is Held in Massachusetts Fire
     Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft
     Ban On Soliciting Dead in Trotwood
     Bank Drive-in Window Blocked by Board
     British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands
     British Union Finds Dwarfs in Short Supply
     Chef Throws His Heart into Helping Feed Needy (from the
     Louisville Courier Journal)
     Child's Death Ruins Couple's Holiday
     Deaf College Opens Doors to Hearing
     Deer Kill 17,328
     Drunk Gets Nine Months in Violin Case
     Drunken Drivers Paid $1000 in `84
     Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide
     Enraged Cow Injures Farmer with Ax
     Eye Drops off Shelf
     Farmer Bill Dies in House
     Heat Wave Linked to Temperatures (from Daily Sun Post)
     Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors (from the Providence Journal)
     If Strike isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While
     Include your Children When Baking Cookies
     Infertility Unlikely To Be Passed On (from the Montgomery Advertiser)
     Iraqi Head Seeks Arms
     Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
     Jerk Injures Neck, Wins Award (from the Buffalo News)
     Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
     Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
     Killer Sentenced to Die for Second Time in 10 Years (from the
     Post News)
     Lack of Brains Hinders Research (from The Columbus Dispatch)
     Lansing Residents Can Drop Off Trees
     Lawyer Says Client is Not That Guilty
     Lawmen from Mexico Barbecue Guests
     Legislator Wants Tougher Death Penalty
     Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half (From the Valley News)
     Lung Cancer in Women Mushrooms
     Man Jumps Off Bridge. Neither Jumper nor Body Found
     Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing (from The Sun)
     Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge
     March Planned For Next August
     Messiah Climaxes In Chorus Of Hallelujahs (The Anchorage, Alaska
     Times)
     Milk Drinkers are Turning to Powder
     Miners Refuse to Work after Death
     Never Withhold Herpes Infection from Loved One
     New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
     New Vaccine may Contain Rabies
     Official: Only Rain Will Cure Drought (from The Herald-News, Westpost,
     Massachusetts)
     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 8                    5 Aug 2002


     Old School Pillars are Replaced by Alumni
     Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over (from The Overland News)
     Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told
     Plot to Kill Officer had Vicious Side (from The Chicago Tribune)
     Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
     Prosecutor Releases Probe into Undersheriff
     Prostitutes Appeal to Pope
     Publicize Your Business Absolutely Free! Just send $6.00 (Entrepreneur
     Magazine ad)
     Putting Mattress On Floor Prevents Fall From Bed (from the
     Associated Press)
     Queen Mary Having Bottom Scraped (from The Times, in the U.K.)
     Reagan Wins on Budget, But More Lies Ahead
     Red Tape Holds Up New Bridge
     Sadness Is No. 1 Reason Men And Women Cry
     Safety Experts Say School Bus Passengers Should Be Belted
     Sex Education Delayed, Teachers Request Training
     Shot Off Woman's Leg Helps Nicklaus to 66
     Some Pieces of Rock Hudson Sold at Auction
     Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says
     Soviet Virgin Lands Short of Goal Again
     Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim
     Steals Clock, Faces Time
     Stiff Opposition Expected to Casketless Funeral Plan
     Stolen Painting Found by Tree
     Stud Tires Out
     Study Finds Sex, Pregnancy Link (Cornell Daily Sun, December 7, 1995)
     Survivor of Siamese Twins Joins Parents
     Teacher Strikes Idle Kids
     Teenage Girls Often Have Babies Fathered by Men (The Sunday Oregonian)
     Tiger Woods Plays With Own Balls, Nike Says
     Two Convicts Evade Noose, Jury Hung (Headline from the Oakland
     Tribune)
     Two Sisters Reunited after 18 Years in Checkout Counter
     Two Soviet Ships Collide, One Dies
     Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead
     War Dims Hope for Peace
     Woman Improving After Fatal Crash

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     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 9                    5 Aug 2002


                         THE SWING
                     wdbonner@pacbell.net

     The proud father brought home a backyard swing set for his children
     and immediately started to assemble it with all the neighborhood
     children anxiously waiting to play on it. After several hours of
     reading the directions, attempting to fit bolt A into slot B, etc., he
     finally gave up and called upon an old handyman working in a
     neighboring yard.

     The old-timer came over, threw the directions away, and in a short
     while had the set completely assembled.

     It's beyond me," said the father, "how you got it together without
     even reading instructions."

     "To tell the truth," replied the old-timer, "I can't read, and when
     you can't read, you've got to think."

     Ol'wdb


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                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

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     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
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     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
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     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
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     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
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     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
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     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
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     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
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     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
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       Region 12
         Net 229:  http://net229.darktech.org/
       Region 13:  http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
         Net 261:  http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/
         Net 267:  http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/
         Net 275:  http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/

       Region 14:
         Net 282:  http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
       Region 15:  http://www.bobsplc.com/public/reg15
       Region 17:  http://www.region17.net
         Net 140:  http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
       Region 19:  http://www.biseonline.com/r19
         Net 124:  http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
                   http://pages.sbcglobal.net/flv/
         Net 393:  http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ (German)
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
       Region 26:  http://www.nemesis.ie
       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)
       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.fidospain.org
       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
       Region 53:  http://fido.bitsoft.ro/
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     Zone 4:
       Region 80:  http://www.rbt.com.br (Portuguese)
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)


               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 16                   5 Aug 2002


      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 17                   5 Aug 2002


      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 18                   5 Aug 2002


     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.214
                size  1082.3kb
                date  2002-08-02

      The nodelist has   9530 nodes in it
        and a total of  12510 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           61 regions
                          459 hosts
                          659 hubs
         admin overhead  1185 ( 12.43 %)

                    and   940 private nodes
                          449 nodes down
                          406 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1795 ( 18.84 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    726 (  7.62 %)
                9600 =   8316 ( 87.26 %)
                              (HST  =  178 or   2.14 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.14 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4520 or  54.35 %)
                              (V32B =  481 or   5.78 %)
                              (V34  = 5470 or  65.78 %)
                              (V42  = 4490 or  53.99 %)
                              (V42B =  502 or   6.04 %)
                2400 =    101 (  1.06 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.07 %)
                 300 =    380 (  3.99 %)

                ISDN =    972 ( 10.20 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3432
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-31               Page 20                   5 Aug 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      57
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     391
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4182
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1444
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   3071 ( 32.22 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5143 ( 53.97 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    739 (  7.75 %)
      Other             =    577 (  6.05 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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