     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 23             10 Jun 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. INSIDE  ...................................................  1
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  1
     2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
        Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (4)  ...........................  2
        Why I like Fidonet, part 2: The free lunch  ...............  3
     3. REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES  ...........................  5
        Resentments of an Ex-Sysop  ...............................  5
     4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  ..........................  7
        Correction  ...............................................  7
     5. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  ..................................... 10
        Children's letters to God  ................................ 10
        Marriage in heaven?  ...................................... 11
     6. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................. 13
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 13
     7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 17
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 17
     8. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 22
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 22
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 24
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 24
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 26
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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     In the General articles column, the turn has come to number four in
     the "Confessions of an Ex-Sysop" series by Steve Townsley. Then we run
     Petko Bossakov's second part of his series "Why I like Fidonet...".
     This week, among other things, about some economic aspects on fidonet
     vs. internet.

        For the Rebuttal column Andrea Santos writes some comments on one
     of Steve's previous articles in "Resentments of an Ex-Sysop".

        Warren Bonner has sort of a rerun this week. It's a poem that was
     first published early last year, then with the signature 'anonymous'.
     Now the proper writer has asked that this shall be corrected, so...
     Well read all about it in "Correction".

        As usual you'll have to put up with a couple of jokes too. First
     out is "Marriage in heaven?", a lawyer joke by Warren Bonner. And
     then, from the archives, "Children's letters to God". I think I picked
     this up from the FUNNY echo some time ago.


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                   Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (4)
               By Steve Townsley,  stownsley@g7spn.org

     When I first started on this kick of writing a few words for FidoNews
     within hours it became a sort of retrospective. No matter how much you
     look forward there was always the temptation to look back. It's simply
     amazing how many abandoned websites there are out there that are
     indexed under FidoNet. At least I assume they are abandoned since the
     last serious attempt to do an update was four or five years ago.

     Take the FidoNet Standards website. You pop along there looking for
     information on how to connect with DSL and IP over the net and most of
     the documentation talks about modems and dialing. I remember hot
     debate on type-3 packets - what happened guys?

     Some activities were pure nostalgia. Back in 1988 I had the great
     pleasure of meeting Wynn Wagner III - the author of Opus. I was nice
     ot find that he was still around and on the web although apparently
     with no connection to FidoNet these days. In case you ever read my
     musings Wynn - a heartfelt thank you and I did donate money to a UK
     aids charity. I also searched for Thom Henderson and was pleased to
     email him a personal thanks. His SEAdog program was worth the $50.00
     and his ideas created the foundations of crashmail and much more.
     Incidently the best I could figure it was Thom's wife is running an
     ISP and he helps out in semi- retirement. Of course I found loads of
     others. I found out what Randy Bush is doing now and why Fido 12 ended
     up as fragments of source code on Tom Jennings site.

     The most important lesson was that the key players in FidoNet's growth
     can no longer be contacted via FidoNet but by the Internet. Key point
     is that FidoNet was a community built on the most accessible network
     of the mid-1980s, the phone network. Today FidoNet needs to move on to
     the most accessible network of this era - the Internet.

     One fun website was a chart of FidoNet nodes. It was fun for me to
     remember when Europe dropped out of FidoNet because the nodelist
     processor couldn't cope with the expansion! What I discovered was that
     FidoNet peaked in the mid-90s with almost 35,000 listed systems and is
     now about a third of that. Crucially the greatest decline corresponds
     with easy Internet access and the greatest expansion corresponds with
     the least favourable Internet access.

     At it's beginning FidoNet was subversive. It defied the rules and it's
     main purpose was getting the mail through. It even did this largely
     without SPAM and without commercial advertising. Today the Internet is
     great for getting email but it is still unable to prevent SPAM and,
     the activities of big corporations such as AOL and MS mean that web
     browsing is increasingly a method of advertisement delivery. There is
     a grim future of an all embracing WWW that is controlled by
     corporations and whose content is censored.

     It's my view that FidoNet needs to re-invent itself to be Internet
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     friendly. We need a new "Tom Jennings" or a new "Thom Henderson". We
     need software that is happy to service phone calls or transmit over
     the Internet. We need directory services so that other users of
     FidoNet Internet Clients can be found. We need places where online
     conferences can be hosted and distributed securely.

     FidoNet also needs to be virtualised. No longer are people limited by
     disk space. BBS systems don't have to be vast maintained systems that
     are hard work but rather just automated hubs where mail and echomail
     is exchanged along with file requests. Perhaps the two most important
     things are an advanced directory system to replace the nodelists and
     absolute security/spam protection.

     Of course new FidoNet would have to be Windows and perhaps even Linux
     friendly. It's a tall order but I think it is the only long term
     future for the FidoNet community.

     My skills are in testing and documentation. So if any programmers have
     the new FidoNet under test I am prepared to start writing the user
     documentation.


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                  Why I like Fidonet, part 2: The free lunch
                           Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1

     I couldn't write this article on time for the last Fidonews, but I
     hope that you will forgive me, because I have been having a lot of
     stuff to deal with recently, like term tests at school, and a new cat.

     Anyway, enough about personal matters. In a previous Fidonews I wrote
     an article about what I consider the main advantage of Fidonet over
     the Internet. Now I am going to talk about what makes them so
     different, and why it is better to be a participating user in both if
     you want to have a truly good online experience.

     Many of our fellow sysops like to think about the Internet as a
     menace, as the enemy. The truth is that Fido and the Web are
     completely different, and it's good. It provides diversity. And it
     means that they don't compete, but each one provides what the other
     lacks. I think it's not only the Internet that's killing us, but this
     is beyond the scope of this article.

     What I meant to say is that both have proven that there IS, after all,
     such thing as a free lunch. Fidonet, as an amateur network, and the
     BBS, as a hobby, provide services that are completely free.

     As we all know, Fidonet is free, because of the strange and almost
     perverse will (or urge) of some "cantankerous" sysops to make it so.
     Some invest more into their systems, some less, but we all see the
     result.

     The WWW, on the other hand, is free, but for-profit (no, that's not an
     oxymoron in today's world). As many other aspects of human life, it is
     totally commercialized.
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     That's not to say that I'm against this. That commercialization has
     done wonders for the Internet and even for humanity as a whole. What I
     mean to say is simply that sometimes we need to take a break.

     Everyone keeps complaining about all those ads, banners, pop-ups, that
     keep becoming more and more aggressive. I think this whining is overly
     exaggerated, although it's true to some extent.

     Okay, adverts are everywhere on the web. They irritate the eyes, and
     slow down our downloads. But imagine what would it be without them. No
     free website hosting. No free e-mail. Adding a guestbook to your
     website: $3.75. Entering our download database: $9.99. Access to our
     website which informs about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide: $1.15.

     To put it in a nutshell, you have no alternative to viewing all those
     banners. Live with it, or don't use the Internet. Or wait... How about
     Fidonet? You can simply dial the nearest node, and dive into the great
     world of fast transfers, friendly users (well, honestly), and a
     cantankerous, but generally nice, sysop.

     I'm not telling anyone to ditch the Internet. But by using both
     networks as alternative sources of information, you can greatly
     increase the ease of finding what you need, and have a much more
     rewarding time when communicating real-time or via electronic mail.


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                      REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES
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                        Resentments of an Ex-Sysop
                             By Andrea Santos
                      <andrea.santos@santronics.com>

     Seems Mr. Townsley has quite a few of them.  If one is an Ex-sysop, so
     be it!  There's nothing about that status of which to be proud or not
     ... simply a fact of life!  High horse *Cs have been around forever.
     They are rarely the reason a sysop leaves Fidonet but this generally
     sounds good as a parting shot, when the real reason (personal
     circumstances, money, health, job or sheer boredom) remains a mystery.

     Dialing a BBS is hardly necessary today when so many of the remaining
     systems are available via the Internet.  That $50.00 investment
     sitting on Mr. Townsley's shelf is a far cry from the hundreds and
     thousands of dollars sysops spent over the years for the latest and
     greatest modems to partake in a hobby which provided years of
     enjoyment.

     Can't draw comparisons between the Internet and Fidonet and everyone
     who did got frustrated real quick.  Those who continued on and remain
     today in Fidonet did/do so because of the value and benefits received
     from the network. Having had Internet access for much of the last 10
     years, I've yet to make one friend strictly through Internet
     communications.  Conversely, the friends I made in Fidonet were too
     numerous to count and I still keep in touch with quite a few people.
     That tells me that for the years I spent in the Network, I was part of
     a real and manageable Community, not a vast, cluttered expanse, and
     this is where Fidonet continues to shine today.

     Surely, Mr. Townsley knows that a dedicated phone line is no longer
     necessary to partake in Fidonet.  Fido mail delivery, both netmail and
     echo, has moved largely to the Internet.  As long as you've got the
     software to make that happen, it's done and quite easily.  Not having
     a phone line is nothing more than an excuse to justify other reasons
     for not being connected.

     I do find it rather condescending that Mr. Townsley doesn't '"object"
     to people running Fidonet,' as if current members need some sort of
     approval for enjoying a hobby.  Bowling hasn't much advanced in the
     past century either, yet countless people around the world still hang
     out at the alleys and have a grand ole time. Same can be accomplished
     in Fidonet ... if the sysop WANTS to be there!

     The comment "my BBS is much faster than the Net" doesn't even make
     sense. Perhaps Mr. Townsley was referring to Fidonet vs. the Internet
     because there are more BBSs today in the Western World on the Net than
     strictly dialup.  In my neck of the woods, residential DSL has been
     available for less than a year. There are certainly parts of my state
     and the rest which don't have DSL at all, and the $50.00/month cost
     for DSL is significantly more than a bare bones residential phone line
     to call a local ISP for Fidonet/Internet mail delivery.

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     Is my LP turntable technically relevant today?  No, but I sure
     wouldn't give it away.  Doing so would prevent me from listening to
     some of my favorite recordings at my convenience.

     Same goes for my 2400 baud modem, my original keyboard, computer and
     monitor and countless dated programs I no longer use.  These items may
     now be stored away but I recognize all as contributing to years of
     enjoyment and harbor no resentments.

     And neither should Mr. Townsely.  Fidonet provided connectivity to the
     world when nothing else was available as conveniently or economically.

     Be grateful!


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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                              Correction
                 By Warren Bonner, wdbonner@pacbell.net

     Folks, at the end of this beautiful poem is some of the correspondence
     that is the reason for rerunning it a year later, the other reason is
     that your "Fathers Day" (at least in north America), is just around
     the corner.

                           DADDY'S DAY (2000)

     Her hair up in a ponytail, her favorite dress tied with a bow
     Today was Daddy's Day at school, and she couldn't wait to go
     But her mommy tried to tell her, that she probably should stay home
     Why the kids might not understand, if she went to school alone
     But she was not afraid; she knew just what to say
     What to tell her classmates, on this Daddy's Day
     But still her mother worried, for her to face this day alone
     And that was why once again, she tried to keep her daughter home
     But the little girl went to school, eager to tell them all
     About a dad she never sees, a dad who never calls


     There were daddies along the wall in back, for everyone to meet
     Children squirming impatiently, anxious in their seats
     One by one the teacher called, a student from the class
     To introduce their daddy, as seconds slowly passed
     At last the teacher called her name, every child turned to stare
     Each of them were searching, for a man that wasn't there
     "Where's her daddy at?"  She heard a boy call out
     "She probably doesn't have one."  Another student dared to shout
     And from somewhere near the back, she heard a daddy say
     "Looks like another deadbeat dad, too busy to waste his day."


     The words did not offend her, as she smiled at her friends
     And looked back at her teacher, who told her to begin
     And with hands behind her back, slowly she began to speak
     And out from the mouth of a child, came words incredibly unique
     "My Daddy couldn't be here, because he lives so far away
     But I know he wishes he could be, with me on this day
     And though you cannot meet him, I wanted you to know
     All about my daddy, and how much he loves me so
     He loved to tell me stories, he taught me to ride my bike
     He surprised me with pink roses, and he taught me to fly a kite
     We used to share fudge sundaes, and ice cream in a cone
     And though you cannot see him, I'm not standing all alone
     'Cause my daddy's always with me, even though we are apart
     I know because he told me, he'll forever be here in my heart"


     With that her little hand reached up, and lay across her chest
     Feeling her own heartbeat, beneath her favorite dress
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     And from somewhere in the crowd of dads, her mother stood in tears
     Proudly watching her daughter, who was wise beyond her years
     For she stood up for the love, of a man not in her life
     Doing what was best for her, doing what was right
     And when she dropped her hand back down, staring straight into the
       crowd
     She finished with a voice so soft, but its message clear and loud
     "I love my daddy very much, he's my shining star
     And if he could he'd be here, but heavens just too far
     But sometimes when I close my eyes, it's like he never went away"
     And then she closed her eyes, and saw him there that day
     And to her mother's amazement, she witnessed with surprise
     A room full of daddies and children, all starting to close their eyes
     Who knows what they saw before them, who knows what they felt inside
     Perhaps for merely a second, they saw him at her side

     "I know you're with me daddy."  To the silence she called out
     And what happened next made believers, of those once filled with doubt
     Not one in that room could explain it, for each of their eyes had been
       closed
     But there placed on her desktop, was a beautiful fragrant pink rose
     And a child was blessed, if only a moment, by the love of her shining
       bright star
     And given the gift of believing, that heaven is never too far.


     Written By: Cheryl Costello-Forshey,  costello-forshey@1st.net

     Cannot be copied or reproduced in any form without the consent of the
     author.


         ----- Original Message -----
         From: Warren Bonner
         To: costello-forshey
         Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:42 PM
         Subject: Re: my copyrighted poem is being used on your site


         HI again Cheryl,
         To go into every Fidonet system operators message/storage base
         really isn't possible.  But I would be delighted to submit the
         "correct version" to the Editor for a reprint.  I'm not the Ed
         anymore, in fact there has been two Editors since me.  But I think
         he will accept my submission as the correct thing to do AS you
         have offered permission.

         Incidentally that is a neat trick to check on "Author unknown"
         items, THANKS!  I will be using that lil' trick in the future.

         So if you will send me your latest version quick, I will get it
         into the editor for release Sunday, with apologies to you attached
         for sure.

         Thanks for your time!
         Hugs warmly returned.
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         Ol'wdb


         ----- Original Message -----
         From: costello-forshey
         To: Warren Bonner
         Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:16 AM
         Subject: Re: my copyrighted poem is being used on your site


         THANK YOU FOR DOING SO---I GUESS IF THAT'S ALL THAT CAN
         BE DONE---THAT'S ALL THAT CAN BE DONE.  : )
         I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.  I'VE ATTACHED THE CORRECT AND
         COPYRIGHTED VERSION.

         GOD BLESS---HUGS---AND MUCH HAPPINESS, CHERYL


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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                          Children's letters to God

     Dear God,
      Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an accident?
     -Norma

     Dear God,
      Instead of letting people die and having to make new ones, why don't
     You just keep the ones You have now? -Jane

     Dear God,
      Who draws the lines around the countries? -Nan

     Dear God,
      I went to this wedding and they kissed right in church. Is that okay?
     -Neil

     Dear God,
      What does it mean You are a Jealous God?  I thought You had
     everything. -Jane

     Dear God,
      Did you really mean "do unto others as they do unto you"? Because if
     you did, then I'm going to fix my brother! -Darla

     Dear God,
      Thank you for the baby brother, but what I prayed for was a puppy.
     -Joyce

     Dear God,
      It rained for our whole vacation and is my father mad!  He said some
     things about You that people are not supposed to say,  but I hope You
     will not hurt him anyway. Your friend. (But I am not going to tell you
     who I am)

     Dear God,
      Why is Sunday school on Sunday? I thought it was supposed to be our
     day of rest. -Tom L.

     Dear God,
      Please send me a pony. I never asked for anything before, You can
     look it up. -Bruce

     Dear God,
      My brother is a rat. You should give him a tail. Ha ha. -Danny

     Dear God,
      Maybe Cain and Abel would not kill each other so much if they had
     their own rooms. It works with my brother. -Larry

     Dear God,
      I want to be just like my Daddy when I get big, but not with so much
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     hair all over. -Sam

     Dear God,
      I think the stapler is one of your goodest inventions. -Ruth M.

     Dear God,
      I bet it is very hard for You to love all of everybody in the whole
     world. There are only 4 people in our family and I can never do it.
     -Nan

     Dear God,
      If You watch me in church Sunday, I'll show You my new shoes. -Mickey

     Dear God,
      I would like to live 900 years like the guy in the Bible. Love, Chris

     Dear God,
      We read Thomas Edison made light. But in school they said You did it.
     So I bet he stoled your idea. -Tom


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                         Marriage in heaven?
               By Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

     On their way to get married, a young couple is involved in a fatal car
     accident.

     The couple find themselves sitting outside the Pearly Gates waiting
     for St. Peter to process them into Heaven.

     While waiting, they begin to wonder, COULD they possibly get  married
     in Heaven?

     When St. Peter shows up, they asked him.

     St. Peter says, "I don't know, this is the first time anyone has
     asked.  Let me go find out." And he leaves.

     The couple sat and waited for an answer . . . for a couple of months .
     . . and they discussed if they were allowed to get married in Heaven,
     SHOULD they get married, what with the eternal aspect of it all. "What
     if it doesn't work?" they wondered, "Are we stuck together forever?"

     After yet another month, St. Peter finally returns, looking somewhat
     bedraggled.

     "Yes," he informs the couple, "you CAN get married in Heaven."

     Great!" said the couple, "But we were just wondering, what if things
     don't work out?  Could we also get a divorce in Heaven?"

     St. Peter, red - faced, slams his clipboard onto the ground.

     "What's wrong?" asked the frightened couple.
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     "OH, COME ON!" St. Peter shouts, "It took me three months to find a
     priest up here! Do you have ANY idea how long it'll take me to find a
     lawyer?!!!!!"

     Ol'wdb


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                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================


                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
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     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 15                  10 Jun 2002


     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 16                  10 Jun 2002


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

     -----------------------------------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 17                  10 Jun 2002


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     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 18                  10 Jun 2002


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               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 19                  10 Jun 2002


      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 20                  10 Jun 2002


      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 21                  10 Jun 2002


      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

     -----------------------------------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 22                  10 Jun 2002


     =================================================================
                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.158
                size  1100.4kb
                date  2002-06-07

      The nodelist has   9869 nodes in it
        and a total of  12773 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           63 regions
                          466 hosts
                          674 hubs
         admin overhead  1209 ( 12.25 %)

                    and   928 private nodes
                          375 nodes down
                          392 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1695 ( 17.17 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    919 (  9.31 %)
                9600 =   8449 ( 85.61 %)
                              (HST  =  181 or   2.14 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.14 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4734 or  56.03 %)
                              (V32B =  498 or   5.89 %)
                              (V34  = 5647 or  66.84 %)
                              (V42  = 4658 or  55.13 %)
                              (V42B =  518 or   6.13 %)
                2400 =    106 (  1.07 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.07 %)
                 300 =    388 (  3.93 %)

                ISDN =   1009 ( 10.22 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3572
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-23               Page 23                  10 Jun 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      60
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     391
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4392
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
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      None            QMM                          1430
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      CrashMail capable =   3182 ( 32.24 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5342 ( 54.13 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    774 (  7.84 %)
      Other             =    571 (  5.79 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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