     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 21             27 May 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  3
        Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (2)  ...........................  3
        Why I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse  ....................  4
     4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  ..........................  6
        Stop to salute on Memorial Day  ...........................  6
     5. FIDONET NOTICES  ..........................................  8
        Announcing a new message conference for FidoNet sysops  ...  8
        EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO PORTUGAL OR SAUDI ARABIA?  ......  8
     6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  ..................................... 10
        Andy Roony's Sayings  ..................................... 10
        Russian anecdote  ......................................... 11
     7. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................. 12
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 12
     8. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 16
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 16
     9. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 21
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 21
     10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 23
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 23
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 24
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the
     intelligent are full of doubt.

                           -- Bertrand Russell



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     =================================================================
                                  INSIDE
     =================================================================

                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     As promised last week, we have number two in the "Confessions of an
     Ex-Sysop" series by Steve Townsley this week, and there's more to
     come. Inspired by Steve's first article, Petko Bossakov starts, what
     promises to be a another interesting series, with a piece called "Why
     I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse".

        OL'WDB sent in something for his column. It's called "Stop to
     salute on Memorial Day". It's a wee bit chauvinistic to this editors
     taste, but I know many of our US readers like this stuff.

        A couple of announcements. First of a new echo, "Announcing a new
     message conference..." by Bob Short, then a request from Ward Dossche
     for help on locating any remaining fido systems in Portugal and Saudi
     Arabia in "EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO...".

        Finally a couple of jokes. "Andy Roony's Sayings" by Warren Bonner
     plus a "Russian anecdote" that I cut from ENET.SYSOP.


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     =================================================================
                             GENERAL ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                     Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (2)
                   Steve Townsley  stownsley@g7spn.org

     Last time I said that technically FidoNet was as relevant as a 360KB
     floppy disk. If that offends you I apologise. Running a FidoNet node
     always took hard work and dedication. Despite this no-one should kid
     themselves that running a FidoNet BBS is an expanding hobby. The fact
     that no new softare is being written for FidoNet is critical in this
     regard.

     Just recently I had a look around websites for FidoNet compatible
     software. In place after place there were notices that this or that
     version was no longer being updated. In short the most talented people
     we (the Sysop Community) had in FidoNet have left. Consider a year
     like 1989. At that time you had people like Thom Henderson still
     developing SEAdog (SEAMail), Opus CBCS was being updated, as was
     FrontDoor etc etc. Today there is no significant "killer apps" being
     developed.

     I have detected some attempt to create IP connected software but there
     seems no standard and, worse still, a seemingly never ending attempt
     to shoehorn IP aware products into the telephone-centric nodelist.
     Without talented programming and technical innovation FidoNet cannot
     evolve into the next generation. It is not that FidoNet MUST go
     Internet but rather the Internet is now the medium that FidoNet's
     original audience use. They don't dial their local BBS and ask for
     help about a software product. Instead they log-on to the vendors
     website. More importantly for FidoNet Sysops is the fact that
     connecting to their ISP is probably cheaper than dialing the nearest
     FidoNet node and the Internet means that the difference between long
     distance and local has disappeared.

     FidoNet should now be issuing new nodelists where the normal activity
     is based on Internet connectivity and that nodes that have dial-up
     gateways are unusual.

     My observation is that several technologies are coming togther that
     makes a leap to the net easy for FidoNet. I also believe that right
     now the need for FidoNet on the Internet is more important than ever.

     Looking at the technology first. DSL is now providing the means for
     "always on" Internet connections. People with DSL can run a BBS 24
     hours a day or some kind of virtual BBS with the ability of forwarding
     entire message boards to clients that call in from dial-up Internet
     connections. Peer-to-Peer networks are showing that we can share file
     areas, messages and chat via a central computer that simply keeps all
     the clients informed what's available.

     I believe new FidoNet server software is needed in which clients call
     in and are able to download messages (echomail), files, and have
     realtime chat (instant messaging). I think such software is necessary
     because the Internet is now moving to Pay-as-you-go model for value
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 4                   27 May 2002


     added services - the very services Fido BBS's had for callers in the
     1980s and 1990s.


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                    Why I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse
                           Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1

     After having read the article "Confessions of an Ex-Sysop", I couldn't
     help generally agreeing with it. However, it made a few thoughts pop
     up in my mind, and if you allow me, I will quote here the part that
     made me ponder the meaning of Life, the Universe, Everything, and,
     over all, Fidonet.

     "What disturbs me sometimes is the reverse snobbery that exists in
     FidoNet about the Internet. You must have come across the argument
     that 'I run my BBS because it's much faster than the net with all
     those graphics and adverts'. Instead I would prefer sysops just to say
     I run FidoNet because I like it."

     That's true, I run Fidonet because I like it. But... why the hell do I
     like it? I'm not the kind of person who doesn't like progress. It is
     very fashionable nowadays to say how bad modern technology is, how it
     alienates us, etc. All this is said by people who would hardly be able
     to live in a cave, but want to look intelligent. I believe this to be
     a pure form of snobbery and reactionism.

     I am writing this article to defend Fidonet, and that's to make it
     clear that if I am defending a technology, it certainly has its
     advantages.

     To me, personally, it's not the cost factor, because the price of the
     Internet access has become quite affordable in my country. Although
     dial-up is still the most widespread method of accessing the Internet,
     it is cheap and has a reasonable transfer speed.

     It's also not some strange form of nostalgy. I couldn't feel sorry for
     the good old days, because I was in no way involved with Fidonet
     during its "years of greatness".

     So, while the Internet is still a faster, better, and more flexible
     technology, it probably lacks something that Fidonet can provide...
     While thinking, wanting to find out what exactly it is, I have decided
     to write this article.

     It is a fact that on each computer network there are many misguided
     individuals whose only desire is to take advantage of the services
     provided in a forbidden, unfair or impolite way.

     Fidonet, however, is not a place where they can prolificate. Maybe the
     reason for this is the way it's organised, maybe it's just too small,
     maybe only the right people join it. You probably have noticed the
     whole armory of protection methods you need to feel comfortable and
     safe on the Internet. To many people, use of thousands of firewalls,
     anti-spam filters, ad-blocking software, anti-spyware tools, is
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 5                   27 May 2002


     acceptable. To me, something in the way the Internet works must be
     changed.

     Spam. A meal that we're served several times a day. I receive about
     fifteen pieces on my Internet account everyday, but since I joined
     Fidonet, I've only seen one there, and it actually originated from the
     Internet. Actions were promptly taken to deny access to that user. I
     believe you all remember that occurence, when a message was posted in
     all echos on February 12 this year.

     I understand that if the size of Fidonet increases, there would be
     more abusers and more spam, for sure. Both electronic mail
     technologies use a store-and-forward method, which makes it hard to
     track.

     However, in Fidonet at least you can be sure that you can talk to a
     cooperating Sysop, who will do anything to find the abuser and ruin
     their life (heh heh heh), and not to an autoresponder, which is
     installed, because the dudes at that ISP's abuse department are so
     overworked that they can't even personally contact you. Having no
     feedback, I can assume that almost half of spam reports on the
     Internet are ignored, simply because the ISPs can't cope with them
     all.

     To put it in a nutshell, you can be on a BBS, or run one, without the
     fear of being hacked. You can post your Internet email address without
     worrying about it being picked up by spammers. You can send Netmail,
     which is technically very insecure, but you know that the Sysops along
     its route will do whatever they can to deliver it, and keep it
     confidential. You can feel safe and comfortable - and this is not an
     illusory feeling.

     How's that for a reason to like Fidonet?


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
     =================================================================

                        Stop to salute on Memorial Day
                              wdbonner@pacbell.net
                           by Capt. John Rasmussen

     EAGLE BASE, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Army News Service, May 22, 2002)
     --

     It was raining "cats and dogs" and I was late for physical training.

     Traffic was backed up at Fort Campbell, Ky., and was moving way too
     slowly.  I was probably going to be late and I was growing more and
     more impatient.

     The pace slowed almost to a standstill as I passed Memorial Grove, the
     site built to honor the soldiers who died in the Gander airplane
     crash, the worst redeployment accident in the history of the 101st
     Airborne Division (Air Assault).

     Because it was close to Memorial Day, a small American flag had been
     placed in the ground next to each soldier's memorial plaque.

     My concern at the time, however, was getting past the bottleneck,
     getting out of the rain and getting to PT on time.

     All of a sudden, infuriatingly, just as the traffic was getting
     started again, the car in front of me stopped.

     A soldier, a private of course, jumped out in the pouring rain and ran
     over toward the grove.

     I couldn't believe it!  This knucklehead was holding up everyone for
     who knows  what kind of prank.  Horns were honking.

     I waited to see the butt-chewing that I wanted him to get for making
     me late.

     He was getting soaked to the skin.  His BDUs were plastered to his
     frame.  I watched-as he ran up to one of the memorial plaques, picked
     up the small American flag that had fallen to the ground in the wind
     and the rain, and set it  upright again.

     Then, slowly, he came to attention, saluted, ran back to his car, and
     drove off.

     I'll never forget that incident.  That soldier, whose name I will
     never know,  taught me more about duty, honor, and respect than a
     hundred books or a thousand  lectures.

     That simple salute -- that single act of honoring his fallen brother
     and his  flag -- encapsulated all the Army values in one gesture for
     me.  It said,  "I will never forget.  I will keep the faith.  I will
     finish the mission. I am an American soldier."
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     I thank God for examples like that.

     And on this Memorial Day, I will remember all those who paid the
     ultimate price for my freedom, and one private, soaked to the skin,
     who honored them.

     Ol'wdb


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     =================================================================
                              FIDONET NOTICES
     =================================================================

        Announcing a new message conference for FidoNet sysops only!
                          By Bob Short, 1:105/38

     Some of you  know how FN_SYSOP has changed over the years, for good to
     bad to good, and so forth.  The echo's rules have been interpreted
     differently by many different moderators, and are subject to changes
     at the discretion of the moderator, without the approval of the real
     owners... sysops. Because of this, it's history has been plagued with
     flame wars, threats, and poor moderating by some.

     FIDO_SYSOP was created to afford sysops a place to meet that will
     maintain it's intergrety and restriction to FidoNet sysops, and
     protect participants from abusive behavior, by writing into the rules
     restrictions on what may be changed, and by whom.  This exclusive
     FidoNet Only echo is both owned and changed by the participating
     sysops, and not by any moderator.

     I encourage all FidoNet sysops to link to this echo, even if you have
     no interest in "politics".  As an international echo, carried by all
     the backbones, it will give each of you an opportunity to address the
     specific issues that concern you, and many upper level coordinators
     who are active there.  No topic is "off topic", so you are free to
     talk about anything on your mind.

     I am particularly interested in seeing more people from zones 2-6
     joining, as there are events and Policy issues up for debate which may
     have an affect on all of us.  Your input is very important!

     So, link up to FIDO_SYSOP today and see what and who you've been
     missing!

     Bob Short FIDO_SYSOP Moderator bsbbser@juno.com


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             EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO PORTUGAL OR SAUDI ARABIA?
                          By Ward Dossche@2:292/854

     ... because if you have I need your help in the management of zone-2.

     For quite some time the segment of Portugal (region-36) and Saudi
     Arabia (region-54) have not been updated anymore. Mail for both
     remains on hold here indefinitely.

     I can reach the RC54 but he says that the region has folded, perhaps
     that a few independent systems operate via whatever technology but he
     is unable to provide further information.

     RC36 whom I've considered as a personal friend over the years seems to
     have dissappeared from the globe. Mail remains on hold forever for
     months now where everything in the past got collected several times a
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     week. ZC/4 has been courteous enough to provide me with this RC's
     email-address derived from Portugese language echoes, but to no avail.
     The email-address of another Portuguese sysop in the nodelist yields
     no answer either.

     The logical consequence will be that I will have to remove the entries
     of both regions from the nodelist unless some form of life can be
     detected in these regions.

     Does anyone anywhere in Fidonet have a contact with sysops in both
     these regions or a clue what to do about it? If so, please send me a
     netmail at my regular address 2:292/854 or use email via
     "wd@skynet.be".

     Thank you for helping ... if you can.


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                           Andy Roony's Sayings
                 By Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>


     1. If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it
     says on the aspirin bottle. Take two and keep away from children.

     2. It's a very strange name they picked for "Social Security." For
     what they actually send you, you can't afford to be "social" nor can
     you really feel "secure."

     3. Short skirts have a tendency to make men polite. Have you ever seen
     a man get on a bus ahead of one?

     4. It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost and
     blamed it on the cost of living.

     5. We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

     6. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting
     something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.

     7. It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end to
     end, someone would be stupid enough to try and pass them.

     8. If the shoe fits, get another one just like it.

     9. The things that come to those who wait may be the things left by
     those who got there first.

     10. Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish,
     and he will sit in a boat drinking beer all day.

     11. When you're swimming in the creek and an eel bites your cheek,
     that's a moray!

     12. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

     13. The only cure for insomnia is to get more sleep.

     14. Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens.

     15. I wished the buck stopped here. I could use a few.

     16. When you go into court you are putting yourself in the hands of 12
     people that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

     Ol'wdb


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                        Russian anecdote
                        From RU.ANEKDOT
               Posted in ENET.SYSOP By Vilo Mlich, 2:421/50

      - What is a true russian dinner?

      - Box of beer, bottle of vodka, big piece of 'kolbasa' and a dog.

      - Why the dog?

      - After all, someone has to eat the 'kolbasa'.


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                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================


                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
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     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
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     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 15                  27 May 2002


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

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               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 18                  27 May 2002


      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 19                  27 May 2002


      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 20                  27 May 2002


      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 21                  27 May 2002


     =================================================================
                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.144
                size  1103.7kb
                date  2002-05-24

      The nodelist has   9923 nodes in it
        and a total of  12812 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           63 regions
                          465 hosts
                          682 hubs
         admin overhead  1216 ( 12.25 %)

                    and   927 private nodes
                          344 nodes down
                          402 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1673 ( 16.86 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    927 (  9.34 %)
                9600 =   8492 ( 85.58 %)
                              (HST  =  181 or   2.13 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.14 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4768 or  56.15 %)
                              (V32B =  496 or   5.84 %)
                              (V34  = 5670 or  66.77 %)
                              (V42  = 4682 or  55.13 %)
                              (V42B =  517 or   6.09 %)
                2400 =    107 (  1.08 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.07 %)
                 300 =    390 (  3.93 %)

                ISDN =   1017 ( 10.25 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3582
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-21               Page 22                  27 May 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      60
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     393
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4434
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1430
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   3199 ( 32.24 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5368 ( 54.10 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    774 (  7.80 %)
      Other             =    582 (  5.87 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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