     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 20             20 May 2002 
     +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
     | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
     | |  FidoNet community.  | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
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     |   ______   _//|| _\   /  |                                         |
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     +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  3
        Confessions of an Ex-Sysop  ...............................  3
        The American Phone System  ................................  4
     4. HUMOUR IN A FIDO VEIN  ....................................  6
        You think Fidonet is slow?  ...............................  6
     5. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  .....................................  7
        The Old Codger  ...........................................  7
        Star-cee's dilemma  .......................................  7
     6. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  .................  9
        Fidonet Software List  ....................................  9
     7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 13
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 13
     8. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 18
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 18
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 20
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 20
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 21
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     Treat people as if they were what they ought to be, and you help them
     to become what they are capable of being.

                    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)


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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     In the General articles section this week we can read about "The
     American Phone System", in an article by Frank Vest. Then there's
     "Confessions of an Ex-Sysop", a two part article by former UK sysop
     Steve Townsley. Part two will appear in the next issue.

        For our section Humour in a fido vein, Frank has written a piece
     called "You think Fidonet is slow?". But, hey Frank, I think it was a
     bug, and not that internet really can be that slow.

        In the jokes section, as usual we have one from Warren Bonner, "The
     Old Codger". Something to give us an insight into the life in the US
     country side perhaps? And then Ward Dossche sent in a joke, that he
     forgot to put a label to, so I called it "Star-cee's dilemma".
     Unfortunatly all the *C combinations seem to have been scrambled from
     Ward's IC system to this editors NC ditto, I hope I got all characters
     on it's right places.


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                       Confessions of an Ex-Sysop

                  Steve Townsley  stownsley@g7spn.org

     I am an ex-Sysop. I am not proud of saying this - it's just a fact. I
     ran several FidoNet compatible BBS's from April 1985 until about
     February 1996. I am still associated with 2:256/97 in the sense that a
     mate still keeps it running. As I look through the nodelist it's
     pretty clear that ex-Sysops now outnumber those running FidoNet nodes.

     In my case the crunch came when British co-ordinators decided they
     knew best about which network sysops could join. Instead of allowing
     me to stay in the network I wanted they move me. I then switched off
     the BBS never to turn it on again. Co-ordinators had become more
     important than the rights of the individual Sysop.

     I am choosing to write a few words in FidoNews because I occasionally
     like to come back and read FidoNews and inceasingly no-one seems to be
     debating the purpose of Fidonet in the age of the Internet.

     These days I never dial a BBS. I can't in fact because my PC is now on
     a little home network and it has a DSL router connected to it.
     Meanwhile my $50.00 57kb modem gathers dust on a shelf. I would guess
     many a former Sysop is in the same situation. A wealth of information
     is on the Internet - far more than was ever on FidoNet.

     Back in 1985 the reason for being on FidoNet was because I was locked
     out of email by big online services charging a fortune and no access
     whatsoever to military networks like the Internet. The magic of
     regular email reliably delivered point-to-point by FidoNet was both
     revolutionary and affordable.

     Today the story is quite different. For less than my old FidoNet phone
     bill I can connect to the Internet and have reliable email in minutes
     worldwide. Frankly the technical reason for FidoNet and the cost
     reason reason for FidoNet has disappeared. It largely explains why the
     only parts of the world have Fido expanding are places like Russia and
     Africa where the telephone network remains a viable connection media.
     Here in the western world your cheapest call is not to your local BBS
     but actually to your ISP.

     FidoNet exists in the USA and UK primarily as a leftover of past
     innovation. I don't object to people running FidoNet at all. People
     should have that freedom. However there is no technical advancement
     happening in FidoNet. The days when huge numbers of Sysops were
     writing utilities and alternative mail programs are over. Instead of
     the dozen or so businesses that wrote and supported BBS programs in
     the 1980s only one or two are left.

     What disturbs me sometimes is the reverse snobbery that exists in
     FidoNet about the Internet. You must have come across the argument
     that "I run my BBS because it's much faster than the net with all
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     those graphics and adverts". Instead I would prefer sysops just to say
     I run FidoNet because I like it.

     Fido is today a museum piece network. As relevant technically as the
     360KB floppy disk.


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                           The American Phone System
                                 By Frank Vest
                                   1:124/6308

     Ain't the American phone companies something?  For those outside of
     the USA, this might be funny.... for that matter, it might be funny
     anyway. :-)

     Telephones are supposed to enrich our lives by allowing people to
     connect to those they wish to stay in touch with... family, friends,
     the bank, and such. So, we have these services to assist us...

     [Caller-ID]

      For a "small fee" you can get this service added to your phone.

      This service is designed to allow us to see the name and phone number
     of the party that is calling us. The idea is to allow us to choose to
     answer the phone if it is someone we wish to talk to or ignore the
     call if we don't wish to talk to that person.

      Of course, some callers (salesmen, companies and "phone room
     solicitors") can block this service and have their number show on your
     caller-id display as "Unavailable".

     Enter:
     [Anonymous Call Rejection]

      With this service added to your "Caller-ID", you can reject those
     calls that come in as "Unavailable". This also prevents people who you
     do want to talk to that might be in an area without the service from
     getting through as well. Ah well, can't have everything. :)  Of
     course, the caller can contact the operator and have the operator put
     the call through anyway, but that's a hassle.

     [Call Forwarding]

      Nice service. You can have your phone automatically forwarded to some
     other number that you are going to be at. Like, say you are going to
     grandma's house and you don't want to miss a call. Simply dial the
     proper code, enter grandma's number in and there you are. Any calls to
     your phone will be transferred to grandma's phone.

      Of course, you can also have your calls forwarded to grandma even if
     you aren't planning to visit her. If you do, I'd advise that you never
     visit her again. :-)

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     [*66 Auto Redial]

      Nice. With this, you can have your phone try to dial a number for up
     to 50 minutes. You just enter the code and then hang the phone up.
     When the number that is being "auto dialed" is answered, your phone
     will ring.

      Of course, you will then want to ignore that and then start the
     process all over again until the police come to arrest you for
     harassment. :-)

     [*69 Auto Call Back]

      If you miss a call, don't worry. You can have your phone call the
     missed number back.

      Just think, you get an answer from that salesman in some remote area
     of the world where long distance is $45.00 a minute and s/he keeps you
     on the line for 15 minutes. Nice. :)


     The phone service. Gotta love it. :-)

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                           HUMOUR IN A FIDO VEIN
     =================================================================

                           You think Fidonet is slow?
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1


      We've all heard the tales of speed, or lack thereof, in Fidonet. I've
     never thought of Fidonet as slow. Even when it took a week or more for
     messages to get delivered, it seemed fast to me. Of course, that was
     in the days of dial-up only. Now, Fidonet can, and often does, get
     messages delivered within hours.

      The other day, I received an E-mail via the Internet. It was, of
     course, a spam message telling me that I could get rich if I would
     only order some number of reports from people on a list and then play
     "Musical Chairs" with the people on the list by including myself at
     the top of said list and removing the last person on the list. Since I
     had read this kind of message before, I promptly deleted it.

      The interesting thing about the message wasn't the message at all.
     You see, I order my E-mail by date in Netscape. The oldest message are
     on the top and the newest at the bottom. That way, when I receive a
     message, I know to scroll to the bottom to read it. The mentioned
     message showed in my folder and I went straight to the bottom of my
     list to read the new mail..... It wasn't there. Now, this isn't all
     that unusual. Sometimes the order gets a little out of shape and a new
     message will appear a few message before the last one. I went up a few
     messages and still could not find the thing. Finally, in desperation,
     and after clicking the "Get Messages" icon for the  5th time, I went
     to the "Next Message" icon. Sure enough, there was the message.... at
     the top of my list.

      That might not sound too bad and I really didn't think much of it. I
     keep a lot of messages in my E-mail folder. Seldom do I purge old
     stuff. However, this one got me to wondering why it was at the top of
     the list... so, I went to the "Trash" folder to re-look at the
     message. That's when I noticed the date.

     12/31/69

      And you think Fidonet is slow!?! :-))

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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                                The Old Codger
                     By Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>


     After living in the remote wilderness of Kentucky all his life, an old
     codger decided it was time to visit the big city.

     In one of the stores he picks up a mirror and looks in it. Not knowing
     what it was, he remarked, "How about that! Here's a picture of my
     daddy."

     He bought the 'picture', but on the way home he remembered his wife,
     Lizzy, didn't like his father. So he hung it in the barn, and every
     morning before leaving for the fields, he would go there and look at
     it.

     Lizzy began to get suspicious of these many trips to the barn.

     One day after her husband left, she searched the barn and found the
     mirror. As she looked into the glass, she fumed, "So that's the ugly
     bitch he's runnin' around with."


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                        Star-cee's dilemma
                    By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854

     An NC, an RC, a ZC and the IC are happily walking along a country
     road.

     Suddenly they happen upon a wide stream and they figure the lowest in
     rank has to try to get to the other side first.

     So the IC dives headfirst in the shallowest part, hits his head on the
     rocks and drowns.

     "Hmmm", say the others, "that was not so great".

     So the ZC falls on his knees and prays: "Lord, give me the power to
     reach the other side". He jumps in the water and starts swimming but
     the current is too strong and he drowns as well.

     "There's room for improvement" mumble the RC and the NC.

     Then the RC starts praying and shouts: "Lord give me the tools to
     reach the other side". So he sees a rowboat, jumps in it and starts
     rowing. Unfortunately there are some hidden rocks that puncture the
     boat which sinks and the RC drowns.

     "Hmmmmm", murmures the NC, "There must be a better way".

     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 8                   20 May 2002


     So he looks around, sees a bridge less than 50 feet away and walks to
     the other side.


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                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================


                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
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     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
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     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 12                  20 May 2002


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

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                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

                       . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
                       |    FIDONET-RELATED SITES    |
                       ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
                                2002-05-02

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       Region 24:  http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ (German)
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
       Region 26:  http://www.nemesis.ie
       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)
                   http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.fidospain.org
       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
       Region 53:  http://fido.bitsoft.ro/
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5085:  http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     Zone 4:
       Region 80:  http://fidobrasil.8m.com  (Portuguese)
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)


               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 15                  20 May 2002


      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 16                  20 May 2002


      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 17                  20 May 2002


      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 18                  20 May 2002


     =================================================================
                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.137
                size  1107.2kb
                date  2002-05-17

      The nodelist has   9927 nodes in it
        and a total of  12854 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           63 regions
                          466 hosts
                          683 hubs
         admin overhead  1218 ( 12.27 %)

                    and   938 private nodes
                          360 nodes down
                          411 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1709 ( 17.22 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    928 (  9.35 %)
                9600 =   8497 ( 85.59 %)
                              (HST  =  184 or   2.17 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.14 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4773 or  56.17 %)
                              (V32B =  497 or   5.85 %)
                              (V34  = 5676 or  66.80 %)
                              (V42  = 4683 or  55.11 %)
                              (V42B =  518 or   6.10 %)
                2400 =    107 (  1.08 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.07 %)
                 300 =    388 (  3.91 %)

                ISDN =   1017 ( 10.24 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3588
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-20               Page 19                  20 May 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      60
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     396
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4431
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1428
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   3202 ( 32.26 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5364 ( 54.03 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    774 (  7.80 %)
      Other             =    587 (  5.91 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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