     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 18             06 May 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. EDITORIAL  ................................................  3
        Some aim to enjoy, some only to destroy  ..................  3
     4. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  4
        Ideas For Articles  .......................................  4
        Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn and Venus this week at a  ..  5
        The PPP BBS and its virtues  ..............................  6
     5. FIDONET NOTICES  ..........................................  8
        New Echo Announcement: Traks And Demos  ...................  8
     6. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  9
        Japanese Sardine Snack Attack  ............................  9
     7. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES  ..................................... 10
        Something good is cookin' in the kitchen!  ................ 10
        Yes No  ................................................... 10
     8. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................. 12
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 12
     9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 16
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 16
     10. SPECIAL INTEREST  ........................................ 21
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 21
     11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 23
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 23
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 24
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     On any device protected by a fast acting fuse, the device will protect
     the fuse by blowing first....

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     =================================================================
                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     The editorial this week is about those nice people that find pleasure
     in sending viruses to other people. This in "Some aim to enjoy, some
     only to destroy" I saw a note in Shannon's list of "Fidonet-related
     Sites" that he too was sent a virus as 'thanks for all the work you
     put into the Snooze'.

        We were blessed with three articles for this issue. First out is
     former editor Frank Vest with a bunch of "Ideas For Articles". Then an
     article from Henk den Adel about an exciting and rare (if you miss it
     you'll have to wait 40 years for the next time, I think) fenomena on
     the evening sky. Read more about it in "Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn
     and Venus...". Finally, in "The PPP BBS and its virtues" Petko
     Bossakov writes a few words about an interesting technology that is
     pretty popular in his city, but seems to be neglected over Fidonet.

        "New Echo Announcement: Traks And Demos" is about just what it
     says, announcing a new echo. Good luck Paul Williams, you may need
     lot's of it to successfully launch a new echo in Fidonet today.

        In our International Kitchen, we finish Carol's Japanese culinary
     journey with "Japanese Sardine Snack Attack".

        In the jokes section, above mentioned Henk sent in "Yes No",
     something on the 'cry wolf' theme. And of course there's one from
     Warren, as usual, "Something good is...".


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                                 EDITORIAL
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                 Some aim to enjoy, some only to destroy

     Isn't it strange how different people look upon what's rewarding
     pastime here in life. Some of us spend lot's of time and effort to try
     to spread a little joy to the world, like e.g. us that work to make
     this little publication. And then there are people that feel great
     only when they can destroy as much as possible for others.

        I'm talking about computer viruses. Since I became Fidonews Editor
     I receive appr. 3-4 viruses by email to editor@fidonews.org a week.
     Almost all of them, I have been able to delete on the server before I
     even got them, but this week I was lazy at one occasion and did get
     not one but two of the works of those sorry excuses for human beings.

        I have one computer where I test all new programs, and for
     different reasons I cannot have an anti-virus program running on this,
     so it got infected. The rest of my network have anti-virus protection,
     that took care of the attack.

        But the infected computer caused me enough unnecessary work. Time
     and effort I could have spent on more productive things. Thank you
     very much whoever sent those viruses to me. What kind of miserable
     lifes do you live? Do you plan to waste the one and only life you
     have, on highly improductive work like this? Whatever do you get out
     of proving to the world that you only take up space for no good and
     waste resources for those that are entitled to them because they
     contribute to mankind in a positive way, unlike you.

        And then one cannot help thinking about how kind Microsoft is to
     those saboteurs. Windows gives all kind of help to the virus makers,
     with functions like automatic running of macros, easy access to the
     entire network (while my son has a heck of a time to log on to the net
     and still not always is given access to the shared resources he is
     supposed to access), locking of started services so they can't be
     stopped, entries in the registry as well as EXE files and DLL's so
     they can't be erased and much more.


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                               Ideas For Articles
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1

      Some of you feel that the way to save Fidonet is to gather more
     Nodes. Others feel that more Users are needed. Some believe that both
     are needed and a few feel that we should just enjoy what is left of
     Fidonet. What ever you feel, believe, think or whatever, the Fidonews
     needs articles to enjoy. Here's some ideas for articles:

     1. How to Promote BBSs.

      Tell us what you do to promote your BBS. What newsgroups do you
     advertise in. Do you have any other places that you advertise? What
     do you put in your ad? How many time have you been shot at/accosted
     while trying to advertise your BBS? Hits/misses? What kind of rotten
     fruit did they throw. Bullets/weapons used. How long were you in the
     hospital afterwards? :-)

     2. Advertise in the Fidonews

      Send in an ad for your BBS to the Fidonews. Hey, it will be published
     in the Fidonews echo and on the Internet. :)

     3. Who the heck are you?

      Tell Fidonet a little about you. We're all family here. It might be
     interesting to know who some of you are. What do you do in your spare
     time? Hobbies (other than and including Fidonet)? Where are you from?
     Do you have a big family? Single? What kind of work do you do? Recent
     birth of children/grand children?

     4. "Normal" Articles in the Fidonews

      "Web Page Reviews"
      Write on on your favorite Fidonet related page. Write one on your
     page. Just write one! :)

      "Software Reviews"
      Got a favorite? Write an article about it.

      "Fidonet Interviews"
      Do you know anyone that is a software author of Fidonet Software? How
     about utilities that are used by Fidonet Sysops? Interview that person
     for the Fidonews.

     5. How do you promote a/your Web Page?

      What search engines do you submit to? Ideas and knowledge on how to
     get better rankings in the search engines. What to avoid. Anything
     else that helps us get our Fidonet related Web Pages in the public
     view.
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     6. None of the above

      None of the above fits?? Well, write something! Dream up a topic and
     write an article about it. Geesh, if I can dream up topics, you can
     too.

     Regards,

      Frank

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       Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn and Venus this week at a glimpse.
                         by Henk den Adel, 2:280/6415

     Between May 1st and 10th planet Mercury can be spotted in the evening
     skies. Opportunities are favourable for an obserever in the northern
     hemisphere. The crude ASCII figure beneath gives you an idea how the
     sky would look, approximately one hour after sunset. The situation is
     shown for 50 degrees north, on May 7th. Slight deviations from this
     sketch will occur for observers in Madrid or Stockholm. In Stockholm
     the angle between the horizon and the imaginary line between Jupiter
     and Venus is somewhat smaller, in Madrid this angle is larger,
     whereas in Caracas this imaginary line is nearly perpendicular to the
     horizon.

     The easiest way to start is Venus. This planet is so bright you
     hardly can mis it. About 10 minutes after sunset you must be able to
     spot Venus. For a more trained eye it is even visible when the sun
     has not yet set. Mercury is more difficult to find, half an hour
     after sunset you can try to find it using a pair of binoculars. Air
     polution and low clouds might degraded its luminosity, beyond
     visibility with the naked eye, when you wait until approximately one
     hour after sunset. About two hours after sunset Mercury sinks below
     the horizon. Mercury can be found roughly 10 degrees from Venus. In
     stead of fumbling around with triangles, just fully stretch out your
     arm and form a fist (like when punching). The angle between the left
     side and right side of your fist is roughly 8 degrees. Venus is the
     brightest of all, Jupiter is somewhat fainter, Mars the faintest.
     Jupiter and Venus shine white, Mars is coloured a kind of red, Saturn
     and Mercury are yellowish.

     On May 10th Venus and Mars seem be be very close in the sky, less
     than the diameter of the full moon. However their actual distance
     will be an odd 100 million kilometers.

     The visibility of Mercury will deminish gradually as a function of
     time and after May 14th it will be very difficult to spot it in the
     bright evening sky. Next favourable opportunity to see Mercury in the
     norhern hemisphere will be early October this year.


     Figure 1  The evening sky, May 7th, at sunset + 1 hour.


          * Jupiter
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                                    . Mars
                                     *Venus
                             Saturn .


                                               . Mercury



         West                                                   North West
     _____|________________________ Horizon __________________________|____


     Happy planet gazing!



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                        The PPP BBS and its virtues
                          Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1

     Since I've joined Fidonet, I haven't seen any serious talk about the
     PPP BBS, its benefits, and the way it works. That's why I'm writing
     this article with the hope of stirring some discussion about it.

     A PPP BBS is a successful merge of the best things that the
     old-school BBS and the Internet provide. It is basically a computer
     on which typical Internet services like http, smtp, pop3, irc and nntp
     are run. Of course, all these work over the TCP/IP protocol.

     However, it's not an Internet server. Where's the catch? It's
     dial-up. Users access it by using the PPP protocol (i.e. Windows'
     Dial-Up Networking). This makes the PPP BBS something like a
     publicly-accessible Intranet.

     Why would anyone run such a thing? If it's not obvious, I'll fill you
     in. Like a BBS, it has the locality (yes, it can be a good thing that
     all the callers live in the same town). It has the great community
     (there's always a friendly sysop to assist you). And it's free.
     Completely, non-commercially, totally, anti-capitalistically free.
     If you don't take the telephone charges into account.

     However, unlike a standard BBS, it's also easy to use. Who doesn't
     know how to visit a web site with their favourite browser? And who
     doesn't have a standard e-mail client?

     It is possible to connect such a BBS to Fidonet. All it takes is a
     standard mailer to be run during ZMH, and some popular gateway
     software to make echomail accessible through a news server, to
     forward netmail to users' personal e-mail boxes, and to create html
     indexes for the file distributions.

     It is also easy to set up; Windows XP and most Linux distributions
     include everything needed. Unix-based systems also provide another
     advantage: based on the username you can either shell to a standard
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     BBS software, or to pppd.

     Having in mind the stated above, I believe that the PPP BBS is one
     way to ensure that Fidonet has a future. If many sysops set up such
     stations, it would attract callers and encourage software developers
     to make the integration of such systems with Fidonet easier.

     Looking forward to your comments,
     Petko

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                              FIDONET NOTICES
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                     New Echo Announcement: Traks And Demos
                           Paul Williams, 1:387/710

      Announcing a new echo for those who are interested in computer based
     music and A/V demos. Traks and Demos (tagname TRAKS_AND_DEMOS) is now
     available on several of the FidoNet echo backbones and should be
     available in all zones.

      This echo is for the discussion of how to write/compose music in
     formats such as MIDI, Amiga MODule, and its descendants such as
     ScreamTracker/ScreamTracker3 STM/S3M, Extended Module XM, Inertia
     Tracker IT formats and any others you might think of.

      It's also for discussion of Trakking programs and players, without
     regard to the system platform or operating system. So if you still use
     an Amiga, an Apple or any other computer you're just as welcome as
     someone using an IBM running DOS, Windows, or OS/2.

      And if you want to talk about certain composers such as Tran and
     Reepicheep or demo groups like Future Crew and Cascada then by all
     means come on and join in.

      If we can get enough interest we'll also see about restarting the
     Sound Distribution Channel on the FidoNet FileBone for the
     distribution and exchange of programs, modules, and samples.

      The echo rules are fairly simple right now and as founder and
     moderator of Traks And Demos I'd like to hope they stay that way.

      1. Be nice, no personal attacks on your fellow echosians please.
      2. Alias's are allowed but let's keep them clean.
      3. The primary language of the echo is English like most others. If
         you wish to post in another language, that's fine, but please
         provide an english copy so the rest of us can follow along.
      4. The moderator reserves the right to make up additional rules if
         the users come up with new ways to be annoying. So please keep
         rule #1 in mind an play nice.
      5. There is no rule #5. <G>

      And there you have it. A new echo to spend time in and have some fun.

       Paul Williams aka The Doctor.

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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                    Japanese Sardine Snack Attack

           1 c  Dried sardines - niboshi
           2 tb Shoyu (soy sauce)
           1 tb Sake
         1/2 ts Lemon juice

       These little fellers are sold all over the place here in Sasebo!
     This is the munchie of the pacific when one is tired of rice crackers.
     Serve them with beer for a football game and watch'em disappear!

       'Toast' the sardines in a good heavy dry skillet for a few seconds
     then combine the rest and add it. Cook a few seconds longer until the
     liquid is absorbed then serve.

       Note:  I actually use Mirin and omit the extra sugar and the lemon.

       From the Sasebo Japan kitchen of:  xxcarol


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                           CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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                Something good is cookin' in the kitchen!
                 By Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

     A man went to visit his 90 year old grandfather in a very secluded,
     rural area of the state he lived in.

     After spending the night, his grandfather prepared breakfast for him
     consisting of eggs and bacon.

     He noticed a film like substance on his plate and he questioned his
     grandfather.......are these plates clean?

     His grandfather replied....those plates are as clean  as cold water
     can get them so go on and finish your meal.

     That afternoon, while eating the hamburgers his grandfather made for
     lunch, he noticed tiny specks around the edge of his plate, and a
     substance  that looked like dried egg yokes....so he asked again...
     are you sure these plates are clean?

     Without looking up from his hamburger, the  grandfather says...... I
     told you before, those dishes are as clean as cold water can get them,
     now don't ask me about it anymore!

     Later that afternoon, he was on his way out to get dinner in a nearby
     town. As he was leaving, Grandfather's dog started to growl and would
     not let him pass......."Grandfather, your dog won't let me out.
     "Without diverting his attention from the football game, his
     Grandfather was watching, he shouted ......"COLDWATER, GET YOUR BUTT
     OUT OF THE WAY!!!"

     8^)
     Warm Regards,
     Ol'wdb

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                                     Yes No.
                           By Henk den Adel, 2:280/6415


     A married couple is preparing their May holidays. The woman is
     packing luggage and asks her husband for advise what to pack.
     Woman: "Should I take this sweater?".
     Man  : "No".
     Woman: "And what about this blouse?"
     Man  : "Yes"
     Woman: "And these pants?"
     Man  : "No"
     Woman: "What do you think about these shoes?"
     Man  : "Yes" the man replies.
     And he continues to reply "No" and "Yes" in strictly this order.
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 11                   6 May 2002


     After five minutes the woman notices that her husband replies in an
     automatic way over and over again. She snaps to him: "You don't
     listen, you just answer Yes and No, without even looking at the
     sweater or shoes. The man replies: "Oh no, I'm doing careful
     calculations, anticipating the amount of luggage we will take with us,
     since last year we took twice as much as we needed, so by answering
     alternatingly Yes and No, I hope to halve the amount of luggage."



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                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
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     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
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     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 15                   6 May 2002


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

     -----------------------------------------------------------------

     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 16                   6 May 2002


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               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 18                   6 May 2002


      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 19                   6 May 2002


      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 20                   6 May 2002


     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 21                   6 May 2002


     =================================================================
                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.123
                size  1109.9kb
                date  2002-05-03

      The nodelist has   9975 nodes in it
        and a total of  12865 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           63 regions
                          466 hosts
                          685 hubs
         admin overhead  1220 ( 12.23 %)

                    and   915 private nodes
                          359 nodes down
                          396 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1670 ( 16.74 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    924 (  9.26 %)
                9600 =   8546 ( 85.67 %)
                              (HST  =  184 or   2.15 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   13 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4794 or  56.10 %)
                              (V32B =  502 or   5.87 %)
                              (V34  = 5698 or  66.67 %)
                              (V42  = 4703 or  55.03 %)
                              (V42B =  523 or   6.12 %)
                2400 =    107 (  1.07 %)
                1200 =      7 (  0.07 %)
                 300 =    391 (  3.92 %)

                ISDN =   1030 ( 10.33 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3613
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 22                   6 May 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      60
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     396
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4449
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1433
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   3227 ( 32.35 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5394 ( 54.08 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    780 (  7.82 %)
      Other             =    574 (  5.75 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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     FIDONEWS 19-18               Page 24                   6 May 2002


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