     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 37             10 Sep 2001 
     +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
     | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
     | |  FidoNet community.  | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
     | |                      | |     San Francisco, California, USA      |
     | | A little ____________| |                                         |
     | |bird told/  __          |    Crash Netmail Attach Articles To:    |
     | |   Me!  /  /  \         |     Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064)      |
     | | WOOF! (  /|oo \        |          Frank Vest@1:124/6308          |
     |  \_______\(_|  /_)       |                   or                    |
     |            _`@/_ \    _  |             flv@texoma.net              |
     |           |     | \   \\ |                                         |
     |           | (*) |  \   ))|           Editor: Frank Vest            |
     |    |||    |__U__| /  \// |     Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin      |
     |  __o-o__   _//|| _\   /  |                                         |
     | /   V   \ (_/(_|(____/   |   Newspapers should have no friends.    |
     |(_Fidonet_)       (jm)    |                    -- JOSEPH PULITZER   |
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         Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. TOP STORIES  ..............................................  2
        Kind of a sad Fidonews  ...................................  2
     3. REGIONAL NEWS  ............................................  3
        Sadly, from Region 19  ....................................  3
        "Egorkin's funeral"  ......................................  3
     4. EDITORIAL  ................................................  5
        I guess it's about normal?  ...............................  5
     5. COMIX IN ASCII  ...........................................  6
        No Bull  ..................................................  6
     6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ......................................  7
        The Door  .................................................  7
        like, ..... just about every day  .........................  7
        What'd he do?  ............................................  7
        Pray for me! :)  ..........................................  7
     7. OTHER STUFF  ..............................................  9
        This week's Calander  .....................................  9
     8. CLASSIFIED ADS  ........................................... 10
        Rotating Ads  ............................................. 10
     9. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 11
        Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*  .......................... 11
     10. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ..................................... 16
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 16
     11. CORRECTIONS  ............................................. 22
        Corrections to Fidonews Volume 18, Number 36 on 03 Sep  ... 22
     12. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 23
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 23
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 24
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 25
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a
     chance to get its pants on."
     -- Winston Churchill

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     =================================================================
                                TOP STORIES
     =================================================================

                             Kind of a sad Fidonews
                                 By Frank Vest
                                 flv@texoma.net

     Yes, it's kind of a sad Fidonews.

      There are two articles that relate the demise of Fidonet Nodes and
     Nets. One relates to a Node that was forced to quit some years back
     due to things beyond control. The other is kind of a sad reflection of
     the current times in Fidonet.

      Let's not lose heart in this. While there are those that leave us,
     that is a way of life. Let's be happy for the one's that are still
     here and try our best to keep ourselves here. For sure... as sure as
     in life... there will be those who leave us. We don't want to see them
     go, but they will go just the same.

      As is shown by the story of Music Drain BBS, the loss of a BBS and
     Fidonet Node can be turned into something positive. A gathering of
     Sysops to remember a lost one. A chance to meet and chat, face to
     face, with those that we only know from messages. One BBS created a
     "family". The loss of that BBS wasn't enough to destroy that "family".
     The family still lives and the lost one is rememberd. A sadness, yes,
     but a positve as well.

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                               REGIONAL NEWS
     =================================================================

                             Sadly, from Region 19
                    Taken from a message by Steve Quarrella
                                   1:393/9005

     Net 380 is gone.  I get some disconnects there, one FAX machine, and a
     BBS without a mailer.  I've got a note out to the sysop of that BBS,
     but I admit that I'm not optimistic.

     Net 147 may be gone.  The NC has a note on his web site that his
     system is dead. One other system has a FAX machine online, another is
     definitely gone, and another is RNA (Ring No Answer).

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                              "Egorkin's "funeral"
                              From : Max Krasnikov
                                  2:5045/57.18
                           (Tuesday, 28 August 2001)
                          Minor editing by Frank Vest

     Vladivostok. Summer. It's a time, when all the people strive to go as
     far as possible to islands, sea, China, Japan... Due to this tendency
     a sharp comedown in the trafic is feeling, which resolves itself into
     40Kb per day ... e.g. just nothing... However, people don't diverge
     the traditions, so 23-th August, by plan, all got around the square
     near the sea front (Naberezhnaja) by the "elephants" to celebrate
     "Egorkin's "funeral"", to catch those who was not able to be hunt down
     by netmail, to solve small net problems, and just to have a bock, meet
     in real those who converse by fido... Generally it could be named most
     likely fidotap rather then sysopp...

     A little bit hystory: 23-th August is a kind of significant date for
     us, 4-5 years ago, in the time of modems at 2400, a man with the name
     Egor Nikolaev (2:5045/9) worked as administrator at a big Vladivostok'
     restaurant-hotel. He had a node with address 2:5045/9. He occupied 3
     phone lines for the node, and he was a big distributing node in the
     net. He had a BBS named Music Drain, which gathered people from all
     over the Vladivostok in the quiet evenings and nights. There people
     were picking up each other, rubbing shoulders with each other, making
     arrangements... at that time such BBS was a basic source of
     information and gossip for computer-modem oriented people, Internet
     was not yet online, even fido was not that much common as it's now. So
     one fine day a paper from the Phone Central came to the management of
     the restaurant. So to say, it was needed to register the units on the
     phone line, otherwise - amercement and all in the same vein... the
     management, of course, asked Egor to clear away all the modems from
     the lines... In fact, it came to close not only the node, but the BBS
     also, which was for 3 years a retreat for a lot of fidos and just
     users... This was just a killing decision for him, he had to kill his
     child with his own hands... And the last days of the stantion's life
     he gathered all to the funeral of Music Drain BBS, it was 23-th August
     ... Since that time year in year out 23-th August is the Commemoration
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 4                   10 Sep 2001


     Day of Music Drain BBS... Everything begins as usually by the
     "elephants" and ends in the underground club BSB...

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                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

                             I guess it's about normal?
                                 By Frank Vest
                                 1:124/6308(.1)

      Last week was a holiday in the U.S.A. and some other countries as
     well. I guess it's just normal that on holidays, most people have
     nothing better to do than send articles to the Fidonews. After all,
     the lakes and recreation areas are packed and the battle to get to
     them is terrible. There's nothing open to go do. Many are on vacation
     on these weeks. What else is there to do other than write articles for
     the Fidonews and messages in the Fidonet echos?

      Last week I was thrilled to have so many articles sent in. It was
     great! There was news from all around Fidonet and beyond. Most of the
     articles were from you... not me. It was beautiful.

      Let's not forget that the Fidonews and Fidonet are here every week.
     Not just holidays or vacation time.

      I realize as well as anyone that jobs and family come first. There is
     always something to do and vacations are important to us all for a
     "break in the routine". Let just not forget that Fidonet is part of
     our family and the Fidonews is important to Fidonet.

      It's understandable when some things come before Fidonet and the
     Fidonews, but sad when Fidonet and the Fidonews are put on the bottom
     of the list. :(

      Thanks to all of you who send in articles. Thanks as well to all of
     you who read the articles and write messages in Fidonet.

     Regards,

      Frank Vest - Editor

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     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 6                   10 Sep 2001


     =================================================================
                              COMIX IN ASCII
     =================================================================

                                    No Bull

              (___)             (___)
              (o o)             (o o)
       /-------\ /       /-------\ /
      / |     ||O       / |  O~ ||O
     *  ||,---||       *  ||,---||
        ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^
         A Bull       A-bomb-in-a-bull     No-bull


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     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 7                   10 Sep 2001


     =================================================================
                            CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                                    The Door
                   From: Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

     Phil went to apply for a job. After filling out all of his
     applications, he waited anxiously for the outcome. The
     employer read all his applications and said,
     "We have an opening for people like you."

     "Oh, great," he said, "What is it?"

     "It's called the door!"

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                        like, ..... just about every day
                   From: Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

      My wife and I were lunching at a sidewalk cafe in Huntington Beach,
     CA.

       Our waitress looked like a real surfer girl - athletic with a great
     tan and blond hair.  Mulling over the menu, my wife asked her if the
     roast beef was rare.   The waitress gave us a long blank look, then
     replied, "Well, no...... we have it, like, ..... just about every
     day."

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                                 What'd he do?
                   From: Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

      It was the end of the day when a cop parked his police van in front
     of the station. As he gathered his equipment, his K-9 partner was
     barking and he saw a little boy staring in at him.

     "Is that a dog you got back there?" the little boy asked.

     "It sure is," The  cop replied.

      Puzzled, the boy looked at him and then towards the back of the van.
     Finally he said, "What'd he do?"

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                                Pray for me! :)

     One Sunday in a Midwest city, a young child was "acting up" during the
     morning worship hour. The parents did their best to maintain some
     sense of order in  the pew but were losing the battle. Finally,  the
     father picked the little fellow  up and walked  sternly up  the aisle
     on his way out.  Just before reaching the safety of the foyer, the
     little called loudly to the congregation, "Pray for me! Pray for me!"
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 8                   10 Sep 2001


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     =================================================================
                                OTHER STUFF
     =================================================================

                              This week's Calander
     Day           Event
     ---------------------------------------------------------------------
     10.
          Gibraltar National Day in Gibraltar
          Independence Day in Guinea-Bissau
          St. George's Caye Day in Belize
     11.
          Anniversary of the Death of Qaid-i-Azam in Pakistan
          Coptic New Year in Egypt
          Ethiopian New Year in Ethiopia
          La Diana Nacional de Catalunya/Catalan Region Bank Holiday in
          Spain
          Liberation Day in Micronesia (Kosrae, Pohnpei)
     12.
          Amilcar Cabral's Birthday in Guinea-Bissau
          Defender's Day in United States (Maryland)
          National Day in Cape Verde
          Revolution Day in Ethiopia
     13.
          Barry Day in United States
     15.
          Independence Day in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras
          and Nicaragua
          Our Lady of the Seven Sorrows in Slovakia
          Respect for the Aged Day in Japan
     16.
          Independence and Constitution Day in Papua New Guinea
          Independence Day in Mexico
          Ordino in Andorra

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     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 10                  10 Sep 2001


     =================================================================
                              CLASSIFIED ADS
     =================================================================

                                  Rotating ads


      As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for
     those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways,
     Fidonet via Internet and such.

      How this works:

     1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews.
     2. Keep it short and to the point.
     3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad.
     4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach.
       A. E-Mail "flv@texoma.net
       B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308

      I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to
     automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews.

      Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad,
     contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current.

     I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will
     have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often
     your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I
     have to rotate through.

      As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :)

     Regards,

      Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor

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     =================================================================
                         FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                        *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  BBS Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     BBBS Home Page
     b@bbbs.net
     http://www.bbbs.net/

     ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
     elebbs@elebbs.com
     http://www.elebbs.com/

     Hermes II Project (Mac)
     info@HermesII.org
     http://www.hermesii.org/

     Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
     sales@lainus.com
     http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

     Mystic BBS
     http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

     Nexus Bulletin Board System
     groberts@nexusbbs.net
     http://www.nexusbbs.net/

     RemoteAccess Central
     Bruce Morse
     bfmorse@rapro.com
     http://www.rapro.com/

     Spitfire BBS
     Buffalo Creek Software
     MDWoltz@AOL.COM
     http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

     Synchronet BBS
     sysop@vert.synchro.net
     http://www.synchro.net

     Telegard BBS
     support@telegard.net
     http://www.telegard.net/

     Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 12                  10 Sep 2001


     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Door Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Bentstone Capabilities Group
     info@stonebenders.com
     http://www.srupc.com/mall

     Jibben Software
     scott@jibben.com
     http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

     JNS Software Door Games
     Rusty Johnson
     rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
     304-733-0113
     http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

     PC Pursuits
     brucep@pop.kis.net
     (301)240-6653
     http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

     S and T Software
     Mark Bappe
     mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net
     (770)788-6843
     http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

     Shinning Star BBS Doors
     nannette@shiningstar.net
     http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

     Sunrise Door Software
     Al Lawerence
     al@sunrisedoors.com
     (404)256-9518
     http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

     The Brainex System
     info@brainex.com
     http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

     Trade Wars Door Game
     jpritch@eisonline.com
     http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
     1:299/110

     Vagabond Software
     Bryan Turner
     vagabond@darktech.org
     http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
     1:124/7013

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  Mail Tossers
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 13                  10 Sep 2001


     FMail Support
     wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org
     http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
     2:280/1076

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Mailer Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
     Definite Solutions
     sales@defsol.se
     http://www.defsol.se/


     BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
     http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

     Plantinum Express for Wildcat
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                         Fidonet via Internet Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Argus
     RITLABS
     argus@ritlabs.com
     373-2-246889
     http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
     2:469/84

     BinkD
     maloff@corbina.net
     http://2f.ru/binkd/

     Fidogate
     Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net
     http://www.fidogate.org/

     Fidonet to Internet Mailer
     Bo Bendtsen
     sales@terminate.com
     http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

     GiGo Software
     http://www.gigo.com/

     Internet Rex
     cruden@cs.ualberta.ca
     http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

     Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
     http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 14                  10 Sep 2001


     TransX
     Multiboard Communications Inc.
     support@multiboard.com
     http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
     1:2401/305

     TransNet
     transnet@ressl.com.ar
     http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

     Watergate
     ramon@sbbs.se
     http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Point Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
     http://www.defsol.se/

     JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
     http://www.jetsys.de/

     APoint
     http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
     http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

     CrossPoint ("Original" version)
     http://www.crosspoint.de
     http://www.apoint-mail.de

     CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
     http://www.openxp.com (English)
     http://www.openxp.de (German)

     CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
     http://www.xp2.de

     WinPoint95
     http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

     The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
     http://www.happyarts.de/xp

     Terminate Terminal
     http://www.terminate.com

     PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
     http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                      Other Software, Utillities and such
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
     http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 15                  10 Sep 2001


     BGFAX Home Page
     http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

     SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
     http://www.gwinn.com

     NetModem for Windows
     http://www.allensoftware.com

     Com/IP
     <http://pcmicro.com/comip

     Husky - Portable Fido Software
     http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

     cFos Fossil driver
     http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Dead Links
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

     MBSE BBS for Linux
     http://freezer-burn.org/mbse/

     Renegade BBS
     http://www.egate.net/renegade/

     Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
     http://lord.darktech.org/

     BeeMail Home Page
     http://www.bise.tzo.com/beemail/

     --------------------------------------------------------------------
     List Submission Procedures: Netmail 1:10/345
                                 E-Mail  fidosoft@bbsnets.com


     The format of this list is undergoing changes and improvements

     BBS Software Name
     Company/Author
     Contact E-mail
     Contact Telephone
     Internet address (if available)
     Fido style address (if available)

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                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================


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       Region 19:  http://bise.tzo.com/r19
         Net 124:  http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
                   http://texoma.net/~flv
         Net 393:  http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org
       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
                   http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
       Region 25:  <Vacant>
       Region 26:  http://www.nemesis.ie
          REC 26:  http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)
                   http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.fidospain.org
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        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
     ?? Net 5049:  http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org  (English/Russian)
        Net 5074:  http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net
     ?? Net 5085:  http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     Zone 4:
       Region 80:  http://fidobrasil.8m.com  (Portuguese)
       Region 90:
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
       Region 65:  http://r65.yeah.net
                   http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)




                          Fidonet Via Internet Hubs


     a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
     address. The email is translated as follows
     firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 18                  10 Sep 2001


     appropriate individual's email.  Anyone in this list will
     also receive routed notice of this feature.

                v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com
                | email address or
     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
       18/600   | Jerry Gause       | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      103/5     @ Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   @ Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     @ Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    @ Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      1:134/11  @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
      379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 19                  10 Sep 2001


     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
      221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 20                  10 Sep 2001


      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
      905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 21                  10 Sep 2001


     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)

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                                 Nodelist Stats

      INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.250
      File has a Date Stamp of : 9/7/2001
      File Size (uncompressed) : 1215.43 KBytes.

      The Input Nodelist file  has 11217 Nodes in it
      and a total of  14303 non-comment entries.

      The list has     6 Zones listed.
                      68 Region Coordinators listed.
                     505 Network Hosts listed.
                     773 Hubs listed.
                     373 DOWN Nodes listed.
                     838 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                     523 HOLD Nodes listed.

      Administrative overhead = 1352 ( 12.05 %)
      PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 838 (  7.47 %)

      Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
                  9600 =   9616 (  85.73 %)
                        (HST's =  210 or   2.18 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (PEP's =   16 or   0.17 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (HAY's =    3 or   0.03 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32's = 5444 or  56.61 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32B's =  698 or   7.26 % "       "    "     "   )
                        (V42's = 5153 or  53.59 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V42B's =  755 or   7.85 % "       "    "     "   )
                  2400 =    113 (  1.01 %)
                  1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
                   300 =    505 (  4.50 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      F_Req Flag      Applicable Software     Number of Systems
     FIDONEWS 18-37               Page 26                  10 Sep 2001


     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4412
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
     --------------------------------------
      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                11
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       13
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          7
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      78
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     414
                      Tabby
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4747
                      Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   4112 ( 36.66 %)
      MailOnly Nodes    =   5749 ( 51.25 %)
      Listed-Only Nodes =    851 (  7.59 %)

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