      F I D O N E W S         Volume 16, Number 40             04 Oct 1999 
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     |  The newsletter of the     |   ISSN 1198-4589 Published by:        |
     |    FidoNet community       |   "FidoNews"                          |
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     |       (_|  /_)             |                                       |
     |        _`@/_ \    _        |                                       |
     |       |     | \   \\       |   Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720    |
     |       | (*) |  \   ))      |           DougM@paonline.com          |
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     |        _//|| _\   /        |                                       |
     |       (_/(_|(____/         |                                       |
     |             (jm)           |   Newspapers should have no friends.  |
     |                            |                    -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
        New Zone 1 Coordinator!  ..................................  1
     2. ARTICLES  .................................................  2
        Fidonews Web Site  ........................................  2
        What Web Page is this?  ...................................  2
     3. NET HUMOR  ................................................  4
        24 Best Sleeping Excuses  .................................  4
        Buddah's Famous Cow  ......................................  4
     4. NOTICES  ..................................................  5
        Future History  ...........................................  5
     5. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ......................................  6
        Fidonet Via Internet Hubs  ................................  6
        Fidonet-related sites  ....................................  7
     6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .....................................  9
        Masthead  .................................................  9
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                                 EDITORIAL
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                           New Zone 1 Coordinator!

     I kinda missed this piece of news myself until I got some crash
     netmail from David Mouffarege:  as of last Friday's nodediff, he's
     listed as the Zone 1 Coordinator!  Congratulations, Dave... we're
     happy that the (almost) three month wait is over, and looking
     forward to seeing you in action.

     A special thanks to Bob Satti for continuing in the position while
     Dave addressed the personal problems which prevented a more timely
     assumption of the position.

                                    Notice

     You may be wondering why the new Z1C would be interested in
     crashing mail to Fidonet's newest pundit.  Well, as one of his first
     official acts, he added the traditional 1:1/23 (Fidonews Editor)
     to this week's NODEDIFF with my BBS listed.  I'd be wary of using it
     right away for two reasons:

     1.  I doubt that netmail routing is set up everywhere yet.  Zone
     hubs are hereby requested to route it towards George Peace, and
     George is requested to route it to John Bixler, my uplink.
     1:270/100 > 1:270/911 > 1:1/23 would follow my normal netmail
     pattern.

     2.  My Telegard BBS package doesn't seem to have the capability of
     grabbing netmail addressed to "Editor" and putting it in my mail
     package.  Unfortunately, the only thing I had which would override
     this was a utility called NETMANAGER, which I removed because the
     evaluation period had expired.  If readers of the newsletter want to
     use this new address, please use "Douglas Myers" as the name rather
     than the listed "Editor."


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                                 ARTICLES
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                              Fidonews Web Site

     Jim Barchuk, the Webmaster at fidonet.org, informed me last week
     that he'd switched the email address "editor@fidonet.org" to forward
     all email to my "DougM@paonline" address.  Readers of Fidonews are
     welcome to use either address.  I logged onto fidonet.org last week,
     and was pleasantly surprised to find that it's much more than a
     place to read Fidonews.  It contains links to other Fidonet web
     sites, links to software authors, and a search engine.  There's even
     a link to let you write me a letter or send an article :)

     I asked Jim in email about the history of fidonet.org, and got this
     brief reply:

     ----------
     It was about three years ago that I decided to do 'Fidonews in HTML'
     as a learning experience. The original site was
     http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6894/. Chris Baker was editor. I
     asked him what he thought about copyright permission, and he wrote
     to Tom Jennings who gave the 'OK.' That site was limited to 1M. All
     it had was the current issue from week to week.

     When I put up my own server naturally I installed fidonews.org here.
     I could easily do lots more fun things like email forwarding for
     editor@, majordomo mailing list distribution, site search engine,
     and BBS search engine.
     ----------

     Check it out!


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                            What Web Page is this?

     I guess it's time for a shameless plug for my Web Page. Ok, it's not
     an official Fidonet page and isn't sanctioned by Fidonet or any of
     that stuff. It is, in my humble opinion, a good Fidonet page.

                                What's on it?

     Lots of things. You'll find a nice Ansi train that I converted to
     .gif format, some dogs (Fido type, of course), some eyes, a search
     engine and, of course, links.

                                   Links!?!

     Of course. That's what Web Pages are for, isn't it? :)  There are
     links here. Links to Fidonet Zones, Regions, Nets, Nodes, Support,
     Strange and Wonderful Places and other stuff. If you look hard
     enough, you'll even find a picture of me and my family. :)
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                                  Who am I?

     Guess I should introduce myself. I'm 1:124/6308(.1 if you wish).
     Ok... That's not what you wanted to hear. :)  I'm Frank Vest and I
     run Collin County Station BBs in McKinney, Texas U.S.A.  I'm also
     the current NC of Net124 and a Fidonet nut..... Or is that Fidonut
     net?? Either way, I love Fidonet! :)

                              Why did I do this?

     Simple answer... I love Fidonet. Most of what I know about computers
     comes from the great people in Fidonet. It's just a small way to
     give back. Besides, I had the Web space and nothing to do with it.
     :)

                          Oh Yes! The Page address.

          Now that you've read all the dribble, here's the address:

                            http://texoma.net/~flv

     You'll see a spinning world when the page comes up. Click on it and
     you'll be transported to the wonderland of Fidonet and other
     wonderful places.

     If you have a page that is related to Fidonet or support of Fidonet,
     let me know about it. I'll look your page over and add a link to it.
     If you like my page, please add a link to it on your page.

     Happy modeming to all,

      Frank Vest - Collin County Station BBs

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                                 NET HUMOR
     =================================================================


     The 24 best responses if found asleep at your desk

     24. "Oh, man! Come in at 6 in the morning and look what happens!"
     23. "This is in exchange for the six hours last night
         when I dreamed about work!"
     22. "You don't discriminate against those with
         Latient Atrophy Zymosis Yeast syndrome, DO YOU?!?"
     21. "Gee, I thought you (the boss) were gone for the day."
     20. "They told me at the blood bank this might happen."
     19. "I was trying to pick up my contact lens without my hands."
     18. "This is just a 15 minute power-nap like they raved about
         in the last time management course you sent me to."
     17. "Whew! Guess I left the top off the liquid paper."
     16. "I was just meditating on the mission statement
         and envisioning a new paradigm!"
     15. "This is one of the seven habits of highly effective people!"
     14. "I was testing the keyboard for drool resistance."
     13. "I'm doing the Stress Level Elimination Exercise Plan (SLEEP)
          I learned at the last mandatory seminar you made me attend."
     12. "It worked well for Reagan, didn't it?"
     11. "This is a highly specific Yoga position to relieve work-related
          stress."
     10. "Just pacing myself for the all-nighter tonight!"
     9.  "I was working smarter, not harder."
     8.  "Auggh!  Why did you interrupt me?  I had almost figured out
         a solution to our biggest problem."
     7.  "I'm in the management training program."
     6.  "The coffee machine is broken...."
     5.  "Someone must've put decaf in the wrong pot."
     4.  "Boy, that cold medicine I took last night just won't wear off!"
     3.  "Ah, the unique and unpredictable circadian rhythms
         of the workaholic!"
     2.  "It's okay...I'm still billing the client."
     And the #1 response if found asleep at your desk:
     1.  "...and I especially thank you for my excellent boss, Amen!"


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                                       (___)      /^^^^^\
        Buddah's Famous Cow:           /- -\     /  MU  /
                                      (  ^  ) __/______/
                                       \_O_/


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                                  NOTICES
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                       Future History

       26 Oct 1999
          Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

       31 Dec 1999
          Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

        1 Jan 2000
          The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

        1 Jun 2000
          EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

       15 Sep 2000
          Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

       21 Sep 2000
          10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

        1 Jan 2001
          This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

       -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
             Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     =================================================================
                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     Last Updated: 9/25/1999

                         Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | T1?   | $??/$10
       12/12    | Ken Wilson        | FTP            | T1    | $24mo.
       13/25    | Jim Balcom        | FTP            | 56k   | $20mo.
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP          | aDSL  | n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      106/1     | Matt Bedynek      | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | 64k   | $5/mo
      107/451   | Andy Knifel       | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6  | n/c
      140/12    | Bob Seaborn       | FTP            | T1    | $5/$20
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      211/417   | Korombos          | BinkD,UUE,FTP  | T1    | n/c
      270/101   | George Peace      | FTP            | 6mbps | $20mo.
      271/140   | Tom Barstow       | UUE            | T1    | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      345/0     | Todd Cochrane     | FTP            | T1    | n/c
      396/1     | John Souvestre    | FTP,VMoT       | T1    | $10/mo
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
     2401/305   | Peter Rocca       | FTP,UUE        | T1    | unkn
     2424/10    | Alec Grynspan     | FTP,UUE        | T1    | n/c
     2424/101   | Kari Suomela   | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1    | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2613/404   | David Moufarrege  | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
     2624/306   | D. Calafrancesco  | VMoT           | 33.6  | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3639/93    | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     | 128K+ | n/c
     3651/9     | Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       23/999   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      284/800   | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      292/626   | Filip Ruymen      | Binkp, UUE     | 128K+ | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c

      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/535   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
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      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      464/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | 19.2  | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP  | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c

     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c

     --
     * FTP   = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT  = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE   = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks



     Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
     Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and
     complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com .

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     =================================================================
                           FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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                              FIDONEWS MASTHEAD

     Fidonews Staff:
       Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com
       Webmaster:  Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org
       Columnist:  Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com
                   (Fido Via Internet Hubs column)
       Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                        Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
                        Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg,
                        Henk Wolsink

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     FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
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                  "Disagreement is actually necessary,
                   or we'd all have to get in fights
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                   or something to amuse ourselves
                   and create the requisite chaos."
                                     -Tom Jennings

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