      F I D O N E W S         Volume 16, Number 37       13 September 1999
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                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
     2. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  2
        Stamps for your Email  ....................................  2
     3. ARTICLES  .................................................  4
        NAB & WWB Echo Diff  ......................................  4
        NAB & Z1B Echo Diff  ......................................  5
        North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]  ...........  7
        Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]  .......................  9
     4. NOTICES  .................................................. 12
        Future History  ........................................... 12
     5. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 13
     6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 16
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                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

     Greetings,

     This is my last day as your editor of FidoNews.  As from next week's
     issue, Douglas Myers will be your new editor.

     I would like to thank all of you who so kindly supported me.

     Ofcourse, there's no thanks for those who always bigger and want
     nothing more than to be boss of our hobby FidoNet.  This is a great
     pitty, that SysOp's cannot stand together to make FidoNet a better
     network to be in.

     Keep well and I'll be around to watch from the sideline. :-)

     Happy reading,

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     =================================================================
                              GUEST EDITORIAL
     =================================================================


                            Stamps for your Email
                                Douglas Myers
                                  1:270/720
                              DougM@paonline.com

     If you hold your ear very close to your POP3 server, you can hear
     the roar of an ocean of injustice.  Is the government reading your
     email?  Will the telephone company be able to charge you long
     distance surcharges for your data connections?  Will your ISP be
     required to limit your selections on the web?

     This week's email sounded a clarion call alerting me the the latest
     attempt to trample my personal freedoms:


     ----- excerpt from email -----

     Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be
     attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill
     602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on
     every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at
     source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
     ..
     The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the
     proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per
     year.
     ..
     Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day
     in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional
     50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond
     their regular Internet costs.

     -------- end excerpt ---------


     To save space, I've not included the usual rhetoric about the
     efficiency of the post office and the federal government in general,
     nor the dire warnings about giving the government a foothold to
     strip us of a free internet.  It is presumed that the reader is
     already familiar with the concept.

     The letter did go on to say that all major newspapers are ignoring
     the story, so I thought I'd address it in Fidonews :)

     To begin with, I'm not sure that there is a Bill 602P - sometimes
     these letters don't restrict themselves to the facts.  But if there
     is a Bill 602P, it won't recover the USPS' lost revenues - if the
     post office is losing $0.33 per letter and only recovering $0.05 per
     letter, then it's only going to recover about $35 million of its
     lost $230 million. This is a figure almost beneath Uncle Sam's
     notice... unless he takes the following two steps to bolster revenue
     FIDONEWS 16-37               Page 3                   13 Sep 1999


     significantly:

     1.  Surcharge email received rather than email sent.  This would
     have the double benefit encouraging spammers to work for free as
     agents of the United States Government as well as drawing
     significant revenue from folks with an email account who just aren't
     creative enough to write much.

     2.  Consider newsgroups to be email.  The ALT groups alone could
     wipe out the national debt!  Of course, if the concept were extended
     to include echomail, then the Zone 1 Backbone would be scrambling to
     recover all those echoes they've dropped, as low volume echoes would
     suddenly be in vogue.


     In calculating lost revenues, the Post Office needs to look beyond
     email to other forms of communication.  For example, Postal
     Inspectors could walk into the Churches and Synagogues and Temples
     of our nation and surcharge all those prayers to God.  None of them
     bear a postage stamp, to the best of my knowledge.  Better yet, they
     could surcharge prayers at home - three meals per day and bedtime
     prayers.  Compliance with this latter is expected to be high...
     after all, would YOU be willing to tell the government that you
     don't say your prayers at beddy-bye?

     And the Postal Inspectors could march into the singles bars
     throughout the land on the alert for body language.  After all, it
     all goes unstamped except for possibly an occasional woman who's
     been hit upon one too many times.  Of course, Postal Inspectors are
     a dry lot and might miss some of the body language.  Perhaps it's
     time for a new concept here:  outcome-based surcharing.  For
     example, a man or woman who draws a smile could be charged for one
     letter.  A whistle would be worth three letters.  If one actually
     scores, he or she could appeal for bulk rate.

     Pay attention to the roar of the ocean in your mailbox... you just
     never know what's going to wash ashore...

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                                 ARTICLES
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     NAB & WWB Echo Diff
     by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
     lisa@psg.com

     Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
     the WWB (World Wide Backbone) distribution systems:

     diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) [edited]

     Echos on the NAB but not on the WWB
     -----------------------------------
      ADLIB               Computer Soundcard Discussion Area
      AREXX               Echo for discussion and assistance on Arexx.
      MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
      MTG_TRADE           Magic: The Gathering, Trading Echo
      NT4_UK              Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
      POWER_BAS           PowerBASIC Programmers Conference
      TABLATURE           Tablature
      Z1C                 Zone 1 Coordinator Contact Conference

     Echos on the WWB but not on the NAB
     -----------------------------------
      ASTROWAR_UK         <Description Missing>
      BBBS.BZ             Discussion of BBBS's script language, BZ.
      BBBS.CHAT           General chat about BBBS.
      BBBS.SYSOP          BBBS SysOp Conference
      BBBS.UTIL           Announcements and discussion of BBBS-related
                          utilities.
      BUGTRAQ             Unix security
      CELLULAR_UK         Cellular Phones discussions
      ECONOMICS_UK        Economics Talk
      EUROCON             EuroCon 1999 (European SysOp Convention)
      FIDOSOFT.HUSKY      The Fidosoft Husky Project for Linux
      FTNHUB              Custom Internet Service's FTNHUB Support Echo
      FTN_PROGS           Discussion of anything about FTN Programs
      FTP_FIDO            Using Internet FTP to receive FidoNet echomail
                          and files
      MARKET              <Description Missing>
      MCIBTYC             My Computer is Better Than Your Computer
      MYTHOLOGY           Mythology Conference.
      OBSOLETE            Obsolete Computers
      OS2COMM             OS/2 Comm
      PGMRS               <Description missing>
      PLANET_CONNECT      Planet Connect Discussions & Support
      RAILFANS            Railfans, Train Watching, Prototype Railroads
      SOU_STAR            Southern Star (1:396/1) Admin Area
      STRATEGY            Strategy Computer Games
      WIN.SYSOP           Windows-Based BBS Software Support
      WIN_95              UK Windows 95 Talk
      WWB_SYSOP           World Wide Backbone Sysop Conference
      WWB_TECH            World Wide Backbone Technical Conference
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      Z3_2000_EVENTS      The New Millennium events all around the world
      ZCC-DISCUSSION      ZCC Discussions
      ZCC-PUBLIC          ZCC-messages from the ZCC-conference

     The NAB list, backbone.na  (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
     The WWB list, backbone.ww  (05-Sep-99) has 773 echos.
     =======================================================

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     NAB & Z1B Echo Diff
     by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
     lisa@psg.com

     Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
     the Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) distribution systems:

     diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) [edited]

     Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B
     -----------------------------------
      60S_70S_PROGROCK    60's/70's Progressive Rock Music Echo
      AIDS-HIV            AIDS & HIV
      ALASKA              GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA
      AMIGA_FILEFIND      Filefind Echo for AMIGA computers
      AMIGA_INT           Amiga Worldwide
      AMY_COMMS           Amiga Telecommunications Rounsrvlw
      ARIZONA             GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA
      ARKANSAS_           GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS
      ASL                 American Sign Language Echo
      ATHEISM             Intra-atheist education and discussion echo.
      CALIFORNIA          GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA
      COLORADO            GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO
      CONFED_HERITAGE     Confederate Heritage
      CONNECTICUT         GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT
      DCTPROD             The DCT Productions Support Echo
      DELAWARE            GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE
      DELPHI              Borland Delphi Developers' Echo
      EC_SUPPORT          Ezycom BBS Support for Sysop's
      EDGE_ONLINE         End Times - Mystery Babylon and the Beast 666
      EQUUS               HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
      FEED_CUT            Designed to inform re echo feed cuts
      FLORIDA             GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA
      GEORGIA             GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA
      HAM_REQ             Amateur Radio File Announcements & Requests
      HARDWARE            Computer Hardware & Peripheral
      HAWAII              GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII
      I95                 Cruising Interstate 95
      IDAHO               GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO
      ILLINOIS            GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS
      INDIANA             GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA
      INJOY               The InJoy Internet Dialer
      IOWA                GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA
      KANSAS              GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS
      KENTUCKY            GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY
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      LE/SECURITY         Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
      LOUISIANA           GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA
      MAINE               GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE
      MARYLAND            GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND
      MASSACHUSETTS       GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS
      MEXICAN_LINK        Mexico's International Link (Multilingual)
      MINNESOTA           GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA
      MISSISSIPPI         GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI
      MISSOURI            GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI
      MLM                 Multi-Level Marketing conference
      MONTANA             GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA
      MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
      MST3K               Mystery Science Theater 3000
      M_GRIPE             Gripe: The Mother of All Echos
      NATURIST            Naturist/nudist discussion
      NEBRASKA            GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA
      NEVADA              GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA
      NEW_HAMPSHIRE       GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE
      NEW_JERSEY          GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY
      NEW_MEXICO          GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO
      NEW_YORK            GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK
      NORTH_DAKOTA        GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
      NT4_UK              Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
      OHIO                GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO
      OJ_SIMPSON          O.J. Simpson discussion
      OREGON              GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON
      OS2GAMES            Help for running games in IBM OS/2
      P5DRAFT             Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
      PARROTS             PARROTS CONFERENCE
      PAUL_REVERE         The Paul Revere 2AM Grassroots Conference
      PCWRITE             PCWrite and Multi-Platform Computing
      PENNSYLVANIA        GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
      QMODEM_USER         Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
      QM_ECHO             QM EchoMail processor and related programs
      QUIKUTILS           Official Matrix Technologies support echo
      RCM                 Radio Control Model II
      RHODE_ISLAND        GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND
      RIBBS               RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
      SEMPOINT            Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
      SET                 Setian Discussions (Formerly "Base of Set")
      SILENTTALK          Echo for people who are deaf or hard of hearing
      SOUTH_CAROLINA      GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA
      SOUTH_DAKOTA        GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA
      SUPERBBS            SuperBBS Support Echo
      S_KING              Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
      TENNESSEE           GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE
      THE_CURE_NETWORK    Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
      TRANSCAN            TransCanadian Soapbox echo
      TRIUS               TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
      UNUSUAL_PETS        Unusual Pets Echo!
      UTAH                GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH
      VERMONT             GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT
      VIN_MAISON          The Wine Lovers Echo!
      VIRGINIA            GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA
      WASHINGTON          GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON
      WEST_VIRGINIA       GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA
     FIDONEWS 16-37               Page 7                   13 Sep 1999


      WISCONSIN           GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN
      WYOMING             GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING
      Z1-ELECTION         Alternate Z1C Election discussion area

     Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB
     -----------------------------------
     None

     The NAB list, backbone.na  (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
     The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) has 658 echos.
     =======================================================

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     North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
     by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
     lisa@psg.com

     Summary of NAB echo changes during Jul & Aug.

     Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.

     diff backbone.na 04-Jul-99 backbone.na 05-Sep-99 [edited].

     Echotag name change
     -------------------
     > HOME_BEER_BREWING   Beer Homebrewing   [new echotag name]
     < ZYMURGY             Beer Homebrewing   [old echotag name]

     Echotag recycled for a new echo?
     --------------------------------
     > MILLENNIUM          Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
     < MILLENNIUM          Millennium TV show discussions    [old echo]

     Added to the NAB list of echos
     ------------------------------
     > 4MODSONLY           For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
     > COMIC_RELIEF        G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
     > FIDOPOLS            Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
     > HARDWARE            Computer Hardware & Peripheral
     > LONELY_HEARTS       Lonely Hearts echo!
     > PIZZANUT            PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
     > SEMPOINT            Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
     > THE_SIMPSONS        The Simpsons Discussion Echo
     > TWIT                Twit's Echo!
     > UNUSUAL_PETS        Unusual Pets Echo!

     Removed from the NAB list of echos
     ----------------------------------
     < ADAM                Adam International Computer Conference
     < ALTMED              Alternative Medicine
     < ANIMAL_RIGHTS       Animal Rights Conference
     < ARCADE              COIN-operated Arcade chat
     < A_CAD               International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
     < BIKE-N-RIDER        Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
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     < BIKENET             Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
     < BLACK_POWDER        <No title>
     < CALLSIGN            Amateur Radio License Callsign Server Echo
     < CHANNELLING         Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
     < COLLEGE             International COLLEGE echo
     < COLLEGE_SINGLES     College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
     < CONCORD             Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
     < CORELDRAW           CorelDraw graphics package discussion
     < CRAFTING-FORSALE    Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
     < DCP                 DayCare Providers Information Exchange
     < DIETING             DIETING
     < ER                  Er Hit TV Show
     < FCC                 Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
     < FLAT_TAX            Discussion on Taxation Issues
     < FREE_SPEECH         Freedom of Speech and Expression
     < FTN_INTERNET        FTN Internet Discussion
     < GOURMET             Gourmet Cooking
     < HAM-ECHO            Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
     < HARLEY_DAVIDSON     HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
     < HAYES               Hayes Modems Discussion
     < HOBBIES             HOBBIES
     < HWDEBATE            Computer hardware debate
     < I_UFO               UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
     < LOCAL_MUSIC         Local Music
     < MILITARY            Military General Conference for all services.
     < MISSING             National Missing Persons Echo
     < MISSING_CHILD       Missing Children Echo
     < MP3                 International MP3 Discussion Forum
     < MYTHOLOGY           Mythology Conference.
     < NEUROLOGY           Neurology
     < NEWSCHAT            Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
     < NOPIRACY            Computer Piracy
     < NORML               Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
     < OPTOMETRY           Vision & Eye Care Discussions
     < PARANORMAL          Paranormal discussions.
     < POST_POLIO          International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
     < PYRO                National Pyrotechnic Echo
     < QFRONT              QFront Support Conference
     < QUANTUMLEAP         Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
     < REGIONS             REGIONS echo
     < SACRED_MAGICK       Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
     < SINGLE_PARENT       Single Parent Information Exchange
     < STEP_PARENT         Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
     < TELEMATE            This is the TELEMATE Conference
     < THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
     < TRADEWARS           Conference for Discussion of the Game Tradewars
     < VIDEO               Video Area
     < WEBTV               WEBTV
     < WELFARE             Debate about systems of social welfare
     < WILDCAT5            A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
     < WORLD_CRISIS        Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
     -----------------------------------------------------------------
     o There are 751 echos in backbone.na [05-Sep-99] (down 47)

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     Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
     by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
     lisa@psg.com

     Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jul & Aug.

     Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.

     diff backbone.z1b 04-Jul-99 backbone.z1b 05-Sep-99 [edited].

     Echotag name change
     -------------------
     > HOME_BEER_BREWING   Beer Homebrewing   [new echotag name]
     < ZYMURGY             Beer Homebrewing   [old echotag name]

     Echotag recycled for a new echo?
     --------------------------------
     > MILLENNIUM          Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
     < MILLENNIUM          Millennium TV show discussions    [old echo]

     Added to the Z1B list of echos
     ------------------------------
     > 4MODSONLY           For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
     > COMIC_RELIEF        G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
     > FIDONET2000         FidoNet 2000 Conference
     > FIDOPOLS            Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
     > LONELY_HEARTS       Lonely Hearts echo!
     > NAVY                U.S. Navy Support Echo Conference
     > PIZZANUT            PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
     > THEIST_WATCH        American Atheist Watch on Religious Shenanigans
     > THE_SIMPSONS        The Simpsons Discussion Echo
     > TWIT                Twit's Echo!

     Removed from the Z1B list of echos
     ----------------------------------
     < ADAM                Adam International Computer Conference
     < ALTMED              Alternative Medicine
     < ANIMAL_RIGHTS       Animal Rights Conference
     < ARCADE              COIN-operated Arcade chat
     < A_CAD               International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
     < BIKE-N-RIDER        Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
     < BIKENET             Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
     < BLACK_POWDER        <No title>
     < CALLSIGN            Amateur Radio Callsign Database
     < CHANNELLING         Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
     < COLLEGE             International COLLEGE echo
     < COLLEGE_SINGLES     College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
     < CONCORD             Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
     < CORELDRAW           CorelDraw graphics package discussion
     < CRAFTING-FORSALE    Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
     < DCP                 DayCare Providers Information Exchange
     < DCTPROD             The DCT Productions Support Echo
     < DIETING             DIETING
     < EDGE_ONLINE         Endtime Discussion Group Exchange Online
     < ER                  Er Hit TV Show
     < FCC                 Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
     FIDONEWS 16-37               Page 10                  13 Sep 1999


     < FEED_CUT            Designed to inform of echo feed cuts
     < FLAT_TAX            Discussion on Taxation Issues etc.
     < FREE_SPEECH         Freedom of Speech and Expression
     < FTN_INTERNET        FTN Internet Discussion
     < GOURMET             Gourmet Cooking
     < HAM-ECHO            Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
     < HARLEY_DAVIDSON     HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
     < HAYES               Hayes Modems Discussion
     < HOBBIES             HOBBIES
     < HWDEBATE            Computer hardware debate
     < INJOY               The InJoy Internet Dialer
     < I_UFO               UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
     < LE/SECURITY         Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
     < LOCAL_MUSIC         Local Music
     < MISSING             National Missing Persons Echo
     < MISSING_CHILD       Missing Children Echo
     < MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
     < MP3                 International MP3 Discussion Forum
     < MST3K               Mystery Science Theater 3000
     < MYTHOLOGY           Mythology Conference.
     < NEUROLOGY           Neurology
     < NEWSCHAT            Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
     < NOPIRACY            Computer Piracy
     < NORML               Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
     < NT4_UK              Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation
     < OPTOMETRY           Vision & Eye Care Discussions
     < OS2GAMES            Help for running games in IBM OS/2
     < P5DRAFT             Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
     < PARANORMAL          Paranormal discussions.
     < PENNSYLVANIA        GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
     < POST_POLIO          International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
     < PYRO                National Pyrotechnic Echo
     < QFRONT              QFront Support Conference
     < QMODEM_USER         Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
     < QM_ECHO             QM EchoMail processor and related programs
     < QUANTUMLEAP         Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
     < QUIKUTILS           Official Matrix Technologies support echo
     < REGIONS             REGIONS echo.
     < RIBBS               RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
     < SACRED_MAGICK       Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
     < SILENTTALK          Deaf and Hard of Hearing support Echo.
     < SINGLE_PARENT       Single Parent Information Exchange
     < STEP_PARENT         Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
     < S_KING              Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
     < TELEMATE            This is the TELEMATE support Conference
     < THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
     < THE_CURE_NETWORK    Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
     < TRANSCAN            Trans Canada Drivel
     < TRIUS               TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
     < VIDEO               Video Area
     < WEBTV               WEBTV
     < WELFARE             Debate about systems of social welfare
     < WILDCAT5            A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
     < WORLD_CRISIS        Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
     < Z1_FIDONET          Zone 1 Chat about almost any thing Echo.
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     o There are 658 echo in backbone.z1b [05-Sep-99] (down 66)

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     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================


                       Future History

       26 Oct 1999
          Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.

       31 Dec 1999
          Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

        1 Jan 2000
          The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

        1 Jun 2000
          EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

       15 Sep 2000
          Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

       21 Sep 2000
          10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)

        1 Jan 2001
          This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

       -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
             Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     FIDONEWS 16-37               Page 13                  13 Sep 1999


     =================================================================
                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
     FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.

     FidoNet:

     Homepage    http://www.fidonet.org
     FidoNews    http://www.fidonews.org             [HTML]
                 http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html  [ASCII]
     WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
     FTSC page   http://www.ftsc.org/
     Echomail    [pending]
     General     http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
     List servers:
                 http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion

     ============

     Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

       Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

       Region 13:  http://www.net264.org/r13.htm

         Net 264:  http://www.net264.org/

       Region 14:

         Net 282:  http://www.rxn.com/~net282/

       Region 17:  http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/

       Region 18:  http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

       Region 19:  http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19

     Zone 1 Elist  http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/

     ============

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German)

       Region 25:  http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/

        Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
           REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)

       Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (German)

       Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net  (Italian)

       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/

       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)

       Region 42:  http://www.fido.cz

       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
        Net 5085:  http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

     ============

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     ============

     Zone 4:

       Region 80:  http://fidobrasil.8m.com  (Portuguese)

       Region 90:
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

     ============

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     ============

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)

     ============

     Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
     and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites.  If
     no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
     that Region is used in its place.  Generally, Regional pages
     should list access points to all Networks within the Region.

     TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
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