     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 45             11 Nov 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  3
        2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U  ........................  3
     4. GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL  ................................  4
        The Future of Fidonet Standards  ..........................  4
     5. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  ..........................  6
        Xxcarol's Baked Fish, Hawaii Type!  .......................  6
     6. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ...................  7
        FIDONet Software References  ..............................  7
     7. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 12
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 12
     8. SPECIAL INTEREST  ......................................... 17
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 17
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 19
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 19
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 21
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     "The very concept of sin comes from the bible. Christianity offers to
     solve a problem of its own making! Would you be thankful to a person
     who cut you with a knife in order to sell you a bandage?"

            -- Dan Barker


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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     Day seven from our Australian travel report, "2002 Off Centre Rally -
     The Big U", is a rather short one, but here it is.

        In "The Future of Fidonet Standards", Michael Grant has some
     thoughts about the FTSC and the role it may have played in the demise
     of Fidonet, and also a suggestion on improvement, even if I think we
     already have the corresponding function of the internet RFC in our
     FSC.

        Our cook Carol goes to Hawaii this week in "Xxcarol's Baked Fish,
     Hawaii Type!". I don't think I would recommend such a long time in the
     oven though, here in Scandinavia we prefer the fish very lightly
     cooked, I'd settle for 10 minutes or less.


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U
               Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305

     Day 7 - Saturday 10th August (Urandangie)

     The day was spent watching more bikes arrive.  A few more Dakars
     arrived - one kittled out with the full Touratech tank kit. It was
     owned by a Norwegian called Johan who spent quite some time talking to
     us.  He was most interested in my storage canister where the right
     side exhaust pipe used to be.  In fact, all the Dakar owners were very
     interested in it, and got the name and phone number of Bushell
     Engineering to chase it up.  There was also a straight F650 GS (nice
     mandarin colour) there, with a genuine BMW single seat kit.  I had a
     good look at that and also his radiator stone guard.  The fellow from
     Townsville who owned it was very helpful.

     In the afternoon, Steve Otter found the leak in my radiator and bogged
     it up with some 2 part metal epoxy stuff that Greg Aldis was carrying.
     It took quite a while to find the leak in the first place, but it
     looks like we might have fixed it now.  Most of the other Dakar riders
     had experienced radiator problems, so it seems to be a weak point with
     these bikes.  Steve knows of a place that builds radiators for bikes,
     so I may get a replacement one from there.

     During the evening, it was confirmed that the next Off Centre Rally in
     2004 would be held at Innamincka.  There were other suggestions,
     including Hungerford, however Innamincka was the popular vote.

     We had our "spicy tomato pasta with salmon" dish for dinner.  We hit
     the hay fairly early.  We're really winding down now.


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                         GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL
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                   The Future of Fidonet Standards

            A proposal by Michael A. Grant (1:134/10, 1:134/11)

     Once upon a time, the Internet was small, and Fidonet was big. Then
     the Internet grew while Fidonet shrank. Somewhere along the way,
     Fidonet dropped the ball. What happened?

     Perhaps one of the strengths of the Internet in comparison to Fidonet
     that has been largely overlooked by the Fidonet community is it's open
     standards process. Although Internet standards are defined by a
     professional association known as the Internet Society, the standards
     they define do not become standards unless they first go through an
     open discussion on the Internet via Request For Comments (RFC)
     publications. Only after the proposals in the RFC documents have been
     openly discussed and the programs utilizing those proposals have been
     found to be stable and in widespread use, does the Internet Society
     deem such proposals to be Internet Standards.

     By comparison, in Fidonet we have had an elite group of developers
     working within the FTSC framework, one which encourages restrictions
     on who is an acceptable candidate for committee membership, and one
     which limits the input into FTS documentation to the committee members
     and the Coordinator structure. The FTSC does not openly request
     comments from all members of Fidonet on proposals, the way the RFC
     documents do on the internet, and it largely ignores the opinions of
     the end users of the programs developed, and even the opinions of some
     developers who work independantly of the FTSC.

     The FTSC seems to have taken on a sort of elevated position in some
     people's eyes in this network; where a lofty and small group of
     individuals decide what is best for this network, and all the rest of
     us have to follow every idea that they come up with unquestioningly.
     Certain individuals in this network seem to want to push the idea that
     what the FTSC says, goes; and that no one can or should question the
     FTS documentation. Clearly this is a situation in which we are putting
     the cart before the horse. We cannot have true standards until such
     time as those standards are widely accepted by the members of this
     network, and a small committee cannot possibly reflect the opinions of
     the entire network's membership.

     I'd like to propose that Fidonet adopt a similar form of standards
     development to the Internet model. I envision an "International
     Fidonet Society" (IFS) as the Fidonet equivalant of the Internet
     Society. Since Fidonet is an amateur network and not a professonal
     organization, this society should not be made up of professionals, but
     rather of anyone who is a member of Fidonet and holds a coordinator
     position, anyone who is involved in the development of Fidonet
     software, or any member of Fidonet who in some way uses Fidonet
     software in a server capacity, whereby other Fidonet members depend on
     the services of that member's software. (i.e. Fidonet mail hubs) In
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     this way, the needs of the end nodes will be expressed in the IFS
     through those who serve those needs (being the coordinators and the
     mail hubs), and will also be open to input from *any* developer of
     Fidonet software.

     Standards could be developed in a similar fashion to the RFC process.
     Any Fidonet member could make a proposal, and ask that it be
     distributed widely for comments and suggestions for improvements. I'd
     suggest calling such a document a "Fidonet Standards Proposal" (FSP),
     and such documents would be in a pre-determined format with a header
     that makes it clear that the document is meant for open discussion
     amongst the Fidonet community. If a FSP becomes gradully better
     defined and more widely accepted within the Fidonet membership, the
     IFS can then deem it a Fidonet Technical Standard.


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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                  Xxcarol's Baked Fish, Hawaii Type!

           Yield: 4 Servings

           1 sm Whole fish, 2 lb, whiteflesh
           8 sl Bacon
           6 cl Garlic
         1/3 c  Green onions, chopped fine
         1/3 c  Chinese parley, chopped fine
           6 dr Sesame oil (drops)
       3 1/2 ts Shoyu (soy sauce)
           1 pn (pinch) MSG

       Folks, I cant find a better one I like more and is more 'my way'
     than this! An ONO fish dish from Hari Kojima of Hawaii!

       When I first came to Hawaii, I had no clue how to make fish.  It was
     fishsticks in the oven at that time of my life.  Now, obviously this
     has changed.  No one can live in Hawaii, see the fresh fish, and
     ignore it! One learns to make use of the bounty of the sea <g>.  From
     Hari, to me, and now to you...

       Take one small white fleshed, whole fish.  Gindai, Opakapaka, Roi,
     or even a small whole snapper.  Clean fish, leaving head and tail on
     and salt and pepper it to taste.  PLace this in a piece of greased tin
     foil, wrapped firmly and set in a pan or cassarole dish.  Bake at 375
     for about 40 mins.

       While it's baking, fry bacon until crisp.  Save the bacon for
     breakfast, and in the bacon oil, brown the garlic well.  Turn off heat
     and add a few drops of sesame oil for flavor.

       When fish is done, place on a platter and garnish with a little MSG,
     shoyu, and parsley.  Now, stand back and pour the hot oil over fish.

       As Hari says, very very tastey!

       Repeated as a favorite from the the kitchen of:  xxcarol
       From: Carol Shenkenberger


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     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
       Region 64:  http://www.fidonet.ph (Pacific Islands/Japan,
                   Guam, Indoesia and the Phillipines)
       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)


               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-45               Page 14                  11 Nov 2002


      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3634/12    | Mark Lewis         |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-45               Page 15                  11 Nov 2002


      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE, BinkP     | 128k  | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-45               Page 16                  11 Nov 2002


     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
     =================================================================

                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.312
                size  1043.7kb
                date  2002-11-08

      The nodelist has   9334 nodes in it
        and a total of  12089 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           59 regions
                          453 hosts
                          638 hubs
         admin overhead  1156 ( 12.38 %)

                    and   935 private nodes
                          299 nodes down
                          365 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1599 ( 17.13 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    716 (  7.67 %)
                9600 =   8122 ( 87.02 %)
                              (HST  =  175 or   2.15 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4404 or  54.22 %)
                              (V32B =  472 or   5.81 %)
                              (V34  = 5359 or  65.98 %)
                              (V42  = 4409 or  54.28 %)
                              (V42B =  495 or   6.09 %)
                2400 =     94 (  1.01 %)
                1200 =      8 (  0.09 %)
                 300 =    394 (  4.22 %)

                ISDN =    925 (  9.91 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3296
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 19-45               Page 18                  11 Nov 2002


      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 7
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          7
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      50
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     381
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4137
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1446
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2961 ( 31.72 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5056 ( 54.17 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    722 (  7.74 %)
      Other             =    595 (  6.37 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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