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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  3
        FAQ on IP Connectivity Nodelistings  ......................  3
        E-Listing the Fidonews Echo  ..............................  6
        2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U  ........................  8
     4. FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS  .................................  9
        A Synchronet, Mystic Review  ..............................  9
     5. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  .......................... 11
        Weathered Barn  ........................................... 11
     6. GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL  ................................ 13
        Implementing a common standard for a higher BBS interfa  .. 13
     7. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  .......................... 15
        Bo-Peeps-A-Crock  ......................................... 15
     8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................... 16
        FIDONet Software References  .............................. 16
     9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 21
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 21
     10. SPECIAL INTEREST  ........................................ 26
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 26
     11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 28
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 28
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 30
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     "One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils
     in this world are to be cured by legislation."

            -- Thomas


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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     Carol asked for a rerun of a couple of previously published articles,
     "FAQ on IP Connectivity Nodelistings" is the first one, next will come
     next week. "E-Listing the Fidonews Echo" from Frank Vest explains some
     things on this somewhat controversial issue. Day four of our travel
     report from the "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U" follows. All this
     in the general articles section.

        In the software review section, we can read another article from
     Frank, "A Synchronet, Mystic Review".

        Warren Bonner, in his column, writes about the sad events that
     we've had the last couple of weeks in "Weathered Barn".

        Petko Bossakov is getting fido technical "Implementing a common
     standard for a higher BBS interface layer".

        Finally Carol cooks "Bo-Peeps-A-Crock". Make sure you start in good
     time if you want to make this dish...


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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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     FAQ on IP Connectivity Nodelistings
     By Carol Shenkenberger, 6:757/1


     10 February 2001
     Revised 27 March 2001


     Reference:  FTS-5001.001 and FTS-5000.001

     Written with assistance from David Hallford,
     FTSC Nodelist working group member

     Let me first smile and say I'm not re-writing the Fidonet
     Technical Standards, but merely trying to assist with
     questions I've seen on implementation of them.  Sometimes,
     they just aren't as understandable as the Fidonet Technical
     Standards Committee intended.

     Lets start with the basics.  The nodelist has a specific
     format.  You can't vary off that in some aspects or it will
     fail to process.  That can cause a node, hub segment, net
     segment, region, or even a whole Zone to fail to process
     depending on where it fails.  YIKES!! Lets not go there ok?

     The first field of interest for a sysop with IP
     connectivity, is the 3rd one where the BBSname is
     traditionally entered. For an IP node, this is the 'system
     address' space.  You list it but once here in the preferred
     mode if at all possible.  You can also list the IP address
     or an email address if that's preferred.

     The problem for most NC's is that it's never really 'clear'
     how the samples and flags work in conjunction.  Thats
     probably because there are many variations.

     Below is a sample for BINKP/TELNET/FTP type entries.

     Sample:

     ,100,ftp.cshenk.com,Virgina_Beach_VA,Carol_Shenkenberger,
     (etc).

     In that case, ftp.cshenk.com is a 'DNS lookup' address
     for the IP number.

     If the site has a POTS line as well, list it as normal.  If
     they do not, use -Unpublished- for the phone field, mark
     them PVT, and enter 300 for the baud rate.  Among the flags,
     enter those which are applicable, omitting those that do not
     apply.

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     Sample:

     (ION)
     ,300,CM,IBN,ITN,IFT
     (With POTS and IP)
     ,28800,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,VFC,IBN,ITN,IFT

     While I dont see anyone using it, I could also just plug in
     the IP address there if it was STATIC.

     Sample:

     ,100,24.0.0.1,Virginia_Beach_VA,Carol_Shenkenberger, (etc)

     Although controversial at this time, a static IP address can
     also be put in the phone number field by replacing the "."
     with a "-" and prefacing it with 000.

     Sample:

     ,100,Shenk's_Express,Virginia_Beach_VA,
     Carol_Shenkenberger,000-127-0-0-1,300,

     The other flags would be the same.  Note, do NOT use this if
     the IP address isnt static!  Even the 'gee seldom changes'
     folks should use the DNS version.

     If I used just email attachments, I'd enter my email
     address instead.

     Sample:

     ,100,cshenk2@home.com,Virginia_Beach_VA,Carol_Shenkenberger,
     (etc).

     Then add the email version IP flags which fit my setup.

     Sample:

     (ION)
     ,300,CM,ITX,IUC,IMI
     (With POTS and IP)
     ,28800,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,VFC,ITX,IUC,IMI

     Now lets say you do both methods.  FTP or variation, and
     email attachment type and want to list both. It can be done.
     Be careful on field length as each flag must be 32
     characters max including the flag!  The total line must be
     157 characters or less.

     Sample:

     ,100,ftp.cshenk.com,Virginia_Beach_VA,Carol_Shenkenberger,
     1-757-486-3064,28800,CM,XA,V32B,V42B,IFT,ITX:cshenk2@home.com

     Note that on the IFT portion I did not need to relist the
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     address.  If 'ftp.cshenk.com' resolved to an IP address
     also capable of BINKP, I would add IBN.  If it also
     connected to TELNET, I'd add ITN.  Only ITX (email
     attachment TransX) required additional information be
     listed.

     I hope this helps pull things together for people!
                                xxcarol



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                          E-Listing the Fidonews Echo
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1

      Much has been discussed, and otherwise argued, in the Fidonews Echo
     recently about the "Echolist".

     Some definitions to help with understanding before I get started.

     Echo Tag:
      The name of the echo. IE: FIDONEWS

     Echo Tag Holder or Tag Holder:
      The person that has the password to the listing

     Moderator:
      The person who moderates the echo. May or may not be the Tag Holder.

     E-list or Echolist:
      The International Echolist run by Thom LaCosta or other such list.

     Listing:
      The individual Echo Tag(s) and the information contained in them.

     Echolist Keeper:
      The person who maintains the E-List.

     Echo:
      The message area as is carried on a FTN.


      In discussion with Thom LaCosta, it might seem that we are at total
     odds with each other... maybe even enemies. In reality, we disagree on
     one major issue. That issue is the editing of listings in the E-list.

      In my humble view, there is no reason for an Echolist Keeper to edit
     the content of any individual listing in the E-List. That is not the
     responsibility of an Echolist Keeper.

      With that in mind, here's what I feel should be the responsibility of
     an Echolist Keeper:

     1. To accept or deny new listings, updates, deletions to the E-List
     based on technical or legal requirements. IE: Correct password, valid
     e-mail or Netmail address, required fields filled in and so forth.

     2. Remove listings that have expired or have been found to not meet
     the technical/legal requirements for listing.

      No other action should be taken by an Echolist Keeper.

     Some thoughts:

     1. The Echo List is owned by the Echolist Keeper. The Echolist Keeper
     has the right to refuse any Listing (Echo Tag) be listed in his/her
     Echolist. NOTE: That does not imply the right of an Echolist Keeper to
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     edit a Listing.

     2. Each Listing in the Echolist is owned by the person(s) that hold
     the password to that Listing. The Listing is not a democracy. The Echo
     may be a democracy, but the Listing is not.

       A. If the Echo has rules that state, imply or whatever regarding the
          Echo, those rules apply only to the Echo, /NOT/ to the Listing.

     3.  The Moderator should, but is not required to, maintain the Listing
     (Echo Tag) in the E-List. If the Moderator chooses to delegate the
     maintenance of the Listing (Echo Tag) to some other party/person, the
     Moderator should realize the consequences of that action.

       A. Unless, or even if, the Moderator knows the password for the
          Listing (Echo Tag), S/he has given the right to change the
          Listing, including password, to the other party.
          IOW, Know darn well just who you trust. :)

     4. The Echolist is a collection of Echo Tags (Listings) that are "For
     Sale" to be distributed. Who knows better how they desire the echo to
     be "sold" or distributed than the Moderator(s) of the Echo?

       A. In a case where the Listing (Echo Tag) is maintained by another
          party, refer to thought #3 :)

      Now, I'll admit that since the Echolist Keeper owns the E-List, he
     has the right to do as he pleases with the listings... However, it is
     my humble opinion that if the above thoughts were put in place as the
     basis for a kind of "policy" for the Echolist, the Echolist and
     Echolist Keeper would gain more respect, acceptance, integrity and
     usage.

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                 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U
               Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305

     Day 4 - Wednesday 7th August (Fairburn Dam to Winton)

     Rick discovered on waking that his Thermorest-clone air mattress had
     started to perish, after 10 years.  That meant a return trip to the
     camping shop in Emerald.  Rick wasn't in the most favourable mood,
     anyway, after a young fellow took the trouble to let us know that
     Rick's snoring could be heard from the other end of the camp ground,
     just in case we didn't know.  I actually hadn't heard him, so I must
     have slept pretty well myself.  Actually I woke without the terrible
     headache, thank goodness.  I'm wondering if it was caused by not
     wearing my silk balaclava, and the subsequent cold draft going down
     the back of my neck.  Note:  Remember to always wear silk balaclava.

     It turned out the camping shop didn't have any Thermorests, or Nalgene
     containers ("What are they?"), so Rick bought some glue to attempt
     repairs, and we bought a large water bottle with a wide cap which
     should do us in the meantime.

     At last we were on our way again, past the gem fields to Alpha and a
     rest stop at Drummond Range lookout.  Just before Barcaldine, there
     were some road works that we had to slow down for.  My temperature
     light came on, which was pretty alarming! We discussed it, and decided
     to continue on and see if it went out when we got some speed up.  It
     did.  Though it came on again, when we reached the petrol station in
     Barcaldine.  We let the bike cool down a bit, took off all the front
     fairing (16 screws) to get to the coolant tank and radiator.  Even
     though there was coolant up to the minimum level in the overflow tank,
     there was no water at all in the radiator.  We bought a 1.5 litre
     bottle of water, let it warm up to air temperature while we had lunch,
     then put about 600 ml into it.  That topped it up.  We hope that'll
     fix it. Said farewell to Rick who was heading up to Muttaburra and we
     went to Longreach, then on to Winton which we reached right on 5
     o'clock.

     The Winton Pub does $10 dinners at the caravan park, so we booked in
     for that. Checked the water level in the radiator - had to put more
     in.  Damn.  That means there must be a leak.  Chatted to a couple of
     NDC (formerly Telstra) guys in an emu- damaged 4WD, then went to the
     fire-pit for dinner.  Roast beef and gravy with chunks of roast
     potato, peas, corn and damper.  After our big day, it went down well.
     We couldn't stay awake for the Bush Poetry session, but judging by the
     laughter and clapping, we must have been good.


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                         FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS
     =================================================================

                          A Synchronet, Mystic Review
                                 By Frank Vest
                                  1:124/6308.1

      No, this isn't some sort of spiritual review of synchronization. :-)
     It is a critical look at two BBS software packages that, in my view
     and opinion, could be really great /IF/ the authors would get together
     on some ideas.

      I have used both BBS packages. While I find that both are very good,
     there are problems with both. I currently run Synchronet as the
     "lesser of two evils".

      On the plus side, both softwares are still under development by the
     authors.

     Synchronet BBS:

     1. The current version is telnet only. For those of us that still run,
     or want to run, a dial-up line, an older version of Synchronet has to
     be used in conjunction with the latest version. To the credit of the
     author, the two versions will work together.

      When running the dial-up version of Synchronet, the Synchronet doors
     that require access to the Internet, such as the "telnet out to other
     BBSs" will not work.

     2. Synchronet only supports one message base format. This limits the
     number of mail tossers that can be used to two that I know of. One is
     the Synchronet tosser (SBBSECHO) and the other is "Amail". Amail has
     some problems of its own and that makes SBBSECHO the only really
     viable tosser for Synchronet. I understand that Amail is being looked
     at by a software author and might be under development again soon.
     This would be great, but until then...


     Mystic BBS:

     1. The telnet version of Mystic for Windows will not run 16 bit Dos
     doors under Win95/98. This makes all of the old door games, that many
     users enjoy, unavailable to them unless the Sysop upgrades to WinXP or
     better.

     2. I could not get the Windows version of Mystic to accept a dial-up
     connection with a front end program such as Frontdoor. Maybe that was
     just me? I had to use the Dos version with a "modem emulator" like
     "Netmodem" to offer telnet access.


     Conclusion:

      Both of these BBS packages have some powerful features. For my $.02,
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     Mystic is easier to set up and the menus are easier to edit while
     Synchronet can handle the 16 bit Dos doors.

      While I've not covered all of the differences, problems, features and
     such in each package, I believe that if one, or both of these software
     packages could get together and offer what is lacking in the other,
     Sysops would have a really powerful software. Both have the advantage
     of active authors, and that is a plus in todays BBS world. I hope that
     this "review" is taken as constructive by both authors.

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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
     =================================================================

                            Weathered Barn
                          wdbonner@pacbell.net

     The last two issues of Fidonet have dropped our spirits and left us
     feeling mighty low with the departure of well known persons a Clay
     Tanicore and Hkan Andersson.  My good friend Jim White sent the
     following to me today.  It some how tells us a story that relates to
     our departed friends.

                       The Weathered Old Barn

     A stranger came by the other day with an offer that set me to
     thinking.

     He wanted to buy the old barn that sits out by the highway. I told him
     right off he was crazy. He was a city type, you could tell by his
     clothes, his car, his hands, and the way he talked. He said he was
     driving by and saw that beautiful barn sitting out in the tall grass
     and wanted to know if it was for sale.

     I told him he had a funny idea of beauty. Sure, it was a handsome
     building in its day. But then, there's been a lot of winters pass with
     their snow and ice and howling wind. The summer sun's beat down on
     that old barn till all the paint's gone, and the wood has turned
     silver gray. Now the old building leans a good deal, looking kind of
     tired.

     Yet, that fellow called it beautiful. That set me to thinking. I
     walked out to the field and just stood there, gazing at that old
     barn. The stranger said he planned to use the lumber to line the
     walls of his den in a new country home he's building down the road.
     He said you couldn't get paint that beautiful. Only years of
     standing in the weather, bearing the storms and scorching sun, only
     that can produce beautiful barn wood.

     It come to me then. We're a lot like that, you and I.  Only it's on
     the inside that the beauty grows with us. Sure we turn silver gray
     too...and lean a bit more than we did when we were young and full of
     sap.

     But the Good Lord knows what He's doing. And as the years pass He's
     busy using the hard weather of our lives, the dry spells and the
     stormy seasons, to do a job of beautifying in our souls that nothing
     else can produce. [ Clay and Hkan were young, called when only half
     their days were done.]

     And to think how often folks holler because they want life easy!
     They took the old barn down today and hauled it away to beautify a
     rich man's house. And I reckon someday you and I'll be hauled off to
     Heaven to take on whatever chores the Good Lord has for us on the
     Great Sky Ranch. And I suspect we'll be more beautiful then for the
     seasons we've been through here...and maybe even add a bit of beauty
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     to our Father's house.

     The storms of our life prove the strength of our anchor. I feel sure
     that Clay and Hkan are a beautiful colour in our Father's house.
     I'm sure Fidonet has had many folks that await them in heaven.

     Ol'wdb


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     =================================================================
                         GETTING FIDONET TECHNICAL
     =================================================================

         Implementing a common standard for a higher BBS interface layer
                             Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1

     I have to start with this: Fidonet is in a decline. Nobody doubts
     that, and it has been repeated many times. I would like to reflect on
     a very basic reason for this.

     I believe that Fidonet still has a good infrastructure, because in
     many regions of the world there is a locally accessible node.

     That's why IMO although we need new nodes, there is something that we
     need more: users. Someone to take advantage of that infrastructure and
     make it run at a higher capacity.

     The users' primary entry point for Fidonet are the local BBSes,
     whether dial-up or telnet. But there are fewer and fewer people
     calling them. What is the reason? I think there are two sides of the
     coin. One is the publicity issue, which I've written about in the
     past, and will write about in the future.

     The other reason, which is the topic of this article, is technical.
     Let's face it, folks, we live in the 21st century. We need a GUI. And
     I mean a front interface for dialing BBSes which would make the raw
     terminal connection totally hidden to the user.

     Early attempts with the RIP scripting failed because of the
     proprietary nature of the standards. That's why I'm proposing that
     an universal GUI implementation is made and here are my ideas
     (somewhat sketchy at the moment).

     Consider the hypothetical Universal BBS GUI client named UniCall.
     That software would provide a local GUI interface for the basic BBS
     functions, i.e.
      1. registration and login
      2. mail
      3. files

     We'll discuss the registration and login first. Actually, this one is
     already implemented with the IEMSI protocol. Many BBS servers and
     terminals support that - and the caller would have to fill in the data
     locally, in UniCall's Options dialog box, which would provide for an
     automatic login.

     The mail exchange can also be easily implemented in UniCall, by simply
     using QWK packets. Users would edit and read messages offline, then
     UniCall does the exchange and that's finished.

     The third item, however, would require more work. File uploads and
     downloads are handled differently in every BBS, so that's what I am
     proposing:

     After dialing, UniCall would enter a special door. UniCall would
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     communicate with this door through a standard protocol in order to:

       a) get a list of areas and files
       b) select files
       c) download files (Zmodem can be used for this)

     This way, the caller could tag and download files in the same way on
     any BBS.

     The power that UniCall (or however we may choose to name it) would
     provide will be unlimited. It can provide a complete graphical
     interface for the caller. It could even provide a web interface by
     emulating a proxy server, which would allow BBSes to be acessible with
     just a web browser, while maintaining compatibility with old terminal
     software.

     I am optimistic that such a software could greatly increase Fido's
     user base and maybe even do what Mosaic did to the Internet.

     Therefore I am asking anyone interested to help develop the
     aforementioned file selection protocol, and install it in their BBSes
     to help it become an open and universal standard. Then we could join
     our efforts in creating the freely available UniCall software, and
     then... the sky's the limit!

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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
     =================================================================

                     Bo-Peeps-A-Crock

           Yield: 8 Servings

           1 lb 2-3 lb veal/lamb breast
           2 tb Chicken bullion mix (or 1 qt
                Water to 1 qt (or broth)
           1 ts Nutmeg
           1 ts Ginger, powdered
          16 ea Cloves, whole
           1 ea Medium/large carrot, chopped
           1 c  Grapes (optional)

       Good sale?  See that Veal or cut of Lamb?  Many things go with it.
     This is one varition.

       Cut the meat as needed to fit in the crockpot, removing as much fat
     as possible.  Now toss in the rest. Cook on high for 4 hours, then
     cool it and skim off the fat.  Reheat and it's good heated for 6 hours
     at a shot for 2 days.  (refridgerate inbetween times!) Serves well
     with an acorn or buttternut squash, cut in half and baked then served
     in a bowl with the shell filled with meat and soup.  Add rice (Basmati
     or Jasmine prefered) and some blue lake green beans for a perfect but
     easy meal.

       Nutrition:  High in fat, even when cooled and skimmed, but sugar
     free and low in sodium.  Use as a specialty now and again even if
     dieting. Sastifies sweet tooth with no sugar added.

       From the kitchen of:  xxcarol



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     =================================================================
                  BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                    -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=-

         Type: M=Mailer  T=Tosser  B=BBS  D=Door  C=Comm/Terminal
               P=Points  E=Editor  I=Internet  U=Utility  ?=Info

     .- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
     |Software: Author     |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes      Help Node|
     `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'

      Argus                |M    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/  2:469/84
                           |     | argus@ritlabs.com  Tel: 373-2-246889
                           |     | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001

      BeeMail:             |M    |http://beemail.gexonline.net   1:105/10
       Stephen Proffit     |     |

      BinkleyTerm XE       |M    |http://btxe.sourceforge.net     1:1/102
                           |     | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998

      BinkD                |MI   |http://2f.ru/binkd/
                           |     | maloff@corbina.net
                           |     | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000

      Fidonet to Internet: |MI   |http://www.terminate.com
       Bo Bendtsen         |     | sales@terminate.com
                           |     | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997

      FrontDoor, FD/APX:   |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se          2:201/330
       Definite Solutions  |     | sales@defsol.se                1:1/101
                           |     | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX

      Husky Project        |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net  RC2: Sep 18th 2002

      InterMail, InterEcho,|MT   |http://www.ifido.com            1:1/133
       Allfix              |     | sales@ifido.com
                           |     | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF

      Tmail                |MI   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru  v2608

      WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
       Net Server, Platinum|     | sales@santronics.com
       Xpress: Santronics  |     | Tel: (305) 248-3204
       Software, Inc.      |     | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Fidogate             |TUI  |http://www.fidogate.org
                           |     | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net  v4.4.4

      FMail                |T    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org       2:280/1076
                           |     | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org  v1.60

      JetMail: JetSys      |TU   |http://www.jetsys.de  js@jetsys.de
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 17                  21 Oct 2002


       (ATARI ST only)     |     | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000

      Squish               |T    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v1.11
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      Synchronet BBS       |TB   |http://www.synchro.net
                           |     | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
                           |     | v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002

      Watergate            |TUI  |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/
                           |     | ramon@sbbs.se
                           |     | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      BBBS                 |BI   |http://www.bbbs.net  b@bbbs.net
                           |     | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999      2:22/222

      ELEBBS: The Elevator |B    |http://www.elebbs.com
       Software Production |     | elebbs@elebbs.com
                           |     | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002

      Falken BBS           |B    |http://falkenbbs.com
                           |     | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002

      Hermes II Project    |B    |http://www.hermesii.org
                           |     | info@HermesII.org  v3.5.9 Beta Final

      Maximus BBS          |B    |http://www.lanius.com
                           |     | sales@lanius.com  v3.01
                           |     |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

      MBSE BBS:            |BI   |http://mbse.sourceforge.net  2:280/2802
       Michiel Broek       |     | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
                           |     | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002

      Mystic BBS           |B    |http://www.mysticbbs.com
                           |     | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001

      Nexus BBS            |B    |http://www.nexusbbs.net
                           |     | groberts@nexusbbs.net
                           |     | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001

      Proboard BBS         |B    |http://www.proboard.be
                           |     | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002

      RemoteAccess BBS:    |B    |http://www.rapro.com            1:1/120
       Bruce Morse         |     | bfmorse@rapro.com
                           |     | v2.62.2SW

      Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
       Creek Software      |     | MDWoltz@aol.com                1:1/150
                           |     | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999

      Telegard BBS         |B    |http://www.telegard.net
                           |     | support@telegard.net
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 18                  21 Oct 2002


                           |     | v3.09g2 SP4
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      Atlantis Software    |D    |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
                           |     | last update: Jun 2002

      BBS Central          |D    |http://www.rpcomputers.com

      Bentstone            |D    |http://www.srupc.com/mall
       Capabilities Group  |     | info@stonebenders.com

      Cheepware:           |D    |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/
       Sean Dennis         |     |                               1:11/200

      DDS (Doorware        |D    |http://www.doorgames.org     1:2404/201
       Distribution System)|     | ruth@doorgames.org
       Ruth Argust         |     |

      DoorMUD              |D    |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org
                           |     | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002

      Elysium Software     |D    |http://www.elysoft.com
                           |     | mpreslar@mailcity.com

      Jibben Software      |D    |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
                           |     | scott@jibben.com
                           |     | 1995-99 Release dates

      JNS Software:        |D    |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/
       Rusty Johnson       |     | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
                           |     | Tel: (304) 733-0113

      John Dailey Software |D    |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
                           |     | support@johndaileysoftware.com

      LORD (Legend of the  |D    |http://www.lordlegacy.org
       Red Dragon) Reborn  |     | mike@lordlegacy.org
                           |     | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001

      Lord-II IGMs         |D    |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/

      PC Pursuits          |D    |http://www.pcpursuits.com
                           |     | brucep@pop.kis.net
                           |     | Tel: (301) 240-6653

      Shining Star         |D    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
                           |     | nannette@shiningstar.net

      Sunrise Doors:       |D    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
       Al Lawrence         |     | al@sunrisedoors.com
                           |     | Tel: (404) 256-9518

      The Brainex System   |D    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
                           |     | stanley@brainex.com  1994-99 Releases

      Trade Wars           |D    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 19                  21 Oct 2002


                           |     | jpritch@eisonline.com
                           |     | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

      Vagabond Software:   |D    |http://www.vbsoft.org        1:124/7013
       Bryan Turner        |     | vagabond@vbsoft.org
                           |     | last update: Jul 17th 2002

      (various)            |D    |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      APoint               |PI   |http://www.apoint-mail.de
                           |     | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
                           |     | v1.25                   2:2426/1210.13

      OpenXP/32            |PI   |http://www.openxp.com        2:248/2004
                           |     | mk@openxp.de  v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002
      OpenXP/16            |P    |http://www.openxp16.de       2:2433/460
                           |     | my@openxp16.de v3.40 RC3 Apr 28th 2002
      CrossPoint (XP)      |P    |http://www.crosspoint.de
                           |     | pm@crosspoint.de  v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999

      PPoint               |P    |http://www.alcuf.ca           1:249/114
                           |     | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000

      Terminate            |P    |http://www.terminate.com
                           |     | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GoldEd+              |E    |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/   2:203/6600
                           |     | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Oct 11th 2002

      SqEd32               |E    |http://www.sqed.de
                           |     | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
     +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+

      GiGo                 |UI   |http://www.gigo.com
                           |     | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997

      Internet Rex:        |UI   |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
       Charles Cruden      |     | telnet://xanadubbs.ca        1:342/806
       (Khan Software)     |     | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001

      TransNet             |UI   |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
                           |     | transnet@ressl.com.ar
                           |     | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998

      TransX: Multiboard   |UI   |http://www.multiboard.com/software/
       Communications, Inc.|     | support@multiboard.com      1:2401/305
                           |     | v3.5
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      National BBS List    |?    | http://www.usbbs.org

      Hispanic FIDO/BBS's  |?    | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
       (in Spanish only)   |     |  (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 23                  21 Oct 2002


      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      393/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3634/12    | Mark Lewis         |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/9     | Steve Quarrella   |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Gran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 24                  21 Oct 2002


      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE, BinkP     | 128k  | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
     FIDONEWS 19-42               Page 25                  21 Oct 2002


      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
          irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
          irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
          irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido

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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
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                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.291
                size  1047.8kb
                date  2002-10-18

      The nodelist has   9359 nodes in it
        and a total of  12141 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           59 regions
                          454 hosts
                          641 hubs
         admin overhead  1160 ( 12.39 %)

                    and   923 private nodes
                          334 nodes down
                          365 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1622 ( 17.33 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    731 (  7.81 %)
                9600 =   8133 ( 86.90 %)
                              (HST  =  173 or   2.13 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   12 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4425 or  54.41 %)
                              (V32B =  461 or   5.67 %)
                              (V34  = 5377 or  66.11 %)
                              (V42  = 4428 or  54.44 %)
                              (V42B =  480 or   5.90 %)
                2400 =     93 (  0.99 %)
                1200 =      8 (  0.09 %)
                 300 =    394 (  4.21 %)

                ISDN =    940 ( 10.04 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3307
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      53
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     380
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4151
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1444
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   2965 ( 31.68 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5066 ( 54.13 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    721 (  7.70 %)
      Other             =    607 (  6.49 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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