     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 19, Number 15             15 Apr 2002 
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            Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. INSIDE  ...................................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. EDITORIAL  ................................................  3
        Health care and other stuff  ..............................  3
     4. FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS  ....................................  5
        What Is Fido CD-ROM Second Edition  .......................  5
     5. REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES  ...........................  7
        Calling Cats that have cheap seats  .......................  7
     6. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER  ..........................  9
        Ol'WDB's Column  ..........................................  9
     7. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN  .......................... 11
        Japanese Daikon Chicken Soup  ............................. 11
     8. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ...................................... 12
        BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #12  ........................... 12
        Out of the mouths of children  ............................ 14
     9. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................. 16
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 16
     10. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ..................................... 20
        Fidonet-related Sites  .................................... 20
     11. SPECIAL INTEREST  ........................................ 25
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 25
     12. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 27
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 27
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 28
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     When choosing between two evils, I always like to take the one I've
     never tried before.

                           -- Mae West --

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                                  INSIDE
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                     The Fidonews at a Glance

     The editorial this week is about "Health care and other stuff".

        A report about an exciting CD-ROM project in Germany in "What Is
     Fido CD-ROM Second Edition".

        The catcaller didn't make it before deadline this week, but he has
     a rebuttal from Frank Vest in "Calling Cats that have cheap seats".

        Warren Bonner is back again with "Ol'WDB's Column".

        Carol makes "Japanese Daikon Chicken Soup" in this week's section
     of Fidonews International Kitchen.

        In the Jokes Section we have "Bastard operator from hell #12"
     followed by "Out of the mouths of children..." from Warren Bonner.


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                                 EDITORIAL
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                     Health care and other stuff

     I'm delighted to see how well Luke's catcalls have been received.
     Albeit it does no good to Luke's adrenaline glands to see his
     contributions so appreciated, and thus may make him less reluctant to
     continue his crusade against the ogres of the *C's of Fidonet (isn't
     it ironic how *C sounds like the dreaded state police of the former
     DDR when pronounced in english?).

        Some may argue that comparing healthcare of USA vs. Canada is not
     something that belongs in a e-zine like FidoNews. And maybe they are
     right. But when I read Luke's description of the two systems, I cannot
     help thinking how similar to the Canadian system the Swedish system is
     fast becoming. The Swedish system, that only a couple of decades ago
     was used as a model to many other social systems around the world.

        And obviously many readers have started reflecting around Luke's
     latest articles, so I guess they *do* have a place in our Snooze after
     all.

        One issue that's constantly raised is the "free" thing. I think
     this is something that belongs to the dark sides of capitalism. Free
     healthcare is of course not available anywhere. There ain't no such
     thing as a free lunch. But IMHO healthcare should be free in so motto
     as "when I'm down, please help me out until I get back on my feet
     again". It's also known as solidarity in my necks of the wood.

                   -  -  =  =  *  =  =  -  -

        Someone asked the question (in the Fidonews echo) if Luke Kolin was
     a real name, or an alias. Well, those of us that were around in late
     1994 remember the sordid business he was objected to at that time. If
     you're interested in an "affair" that would make Hollywood screen
     writers green with envy, you should try to get hold of the last issues
     of FidoNews from that year, and read about stuff, that'll make the
     latter days "R12 affair" look like sunday school.

                   -  -  =  =  *  =  =  -  -

        I got an interesting letter from Spain the other day. One issue
     raised was the meaning of the last half of the word FidoNews. News. I
     agree with the writer. It really should be more emphasized in this
     magazine. So what's new in Fidonet this week? Please write to me and
     tell me. New software, new connections, new get-togethers or what else
     is new?

                   -  -  =  =  *  =  =  -  -

        Yesterday was April 14th. Exactly 90 years since Titanic went down
     (actually on the hour right now). It's also 75 years since the first
     Volvo car (model V4, meaning "ppen Vagn, 4 cylindrar" or, in english
     "Open Vehicle, 4 cylinders") was driven out of the factory.
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     Unfortunately the car had it's rear gear mounted incorrectly, so it
     could only go reverse, but since then the Volvo cars have improved.

                   -  -  =  =  *  =  =  -  -

        Yeeez it's getting late. Lucky I have six or more hours advantage
     over previous Z1 editors. :)

        How come, BTW, that almost no other language but swedish has a word
     for the full 24 hours. The english word "day" normally means the part
     of the 24 hours that the sun is up, no? In swedish we call the day
     "dag" but the full 24 hours "dygn". You're welcome to borrow the word;
     you must agree it would be advantageous in many situations? I wasn't
     lucky enough to study latin in school, but I *think* that "diem" means
     the full 24 hours, like the swedish "dygn". True or false?



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                           FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS
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                    What Is Fido CD-ROM Second Edition
                     By Michael Kleerbaum, 2:2432/203

     As last year, the WIF team is again producing a CD-ROM in 2002. This
     CD-ROM will be distributed free of charge at filling stations,
     computer stores, corner stores and similar locations, where it will be
     available to all.

     The basic purpose of this activity is to draw attention to FidoNet,
     and perhaps to generate enough enthusiasm that people will want to
     participate using the software they receive on the CD-ROM.

     The WIF CD-ROM Second Edition will be produced in a quantity of 500 -
     600 CDs, but the number can be increased as required. It will be
     completely financed by the private funds of the WIF Project, and is
     thus completely independent. This time, we have placed particular
     emphasis on the visual design to demonstrate a certain
     professionalism. The CD itself is printed in color, and both the inlay
     and the front cover will also be printed in color on glossy stock.

     The content of the CD is organized into two sections:

     1) The Information Section

        In this section, the interested reader can find details and
        extensive information on FidoNet. We achieve this aim by storing
        the entire home page of the www.was-ist-fido.de website, with all
        the details and images, as an offline version on the CD-ROM. This
        presentation exists in both HTML and PDF versions. All that is
        necessary to enjoy it is a browser that supports frames (no plugins
        are required), or the Adobe Acrobat Reader Version 4.0 or higher.
        The home page is organized in such a manner that site navigation is
        quite simple even if no frame support is available.

     2) The Software Section

        If the proud owner of the CD now decides to try out FidoNet on an
        active basis, we provide a wide range of software for this purpose,
        for nearly all common operating systems, whether Linux, Windows 3x,
        9x, NT, ME, XP, 2000, DOS or OS/2. Each program comes with its own
        illustrated installation instructions and directions for the
        initial startup. We offer the choice of CrossPoint XP2, WinPoint,
        APoint, FantasyPoint, FIPS, and a software package for Linux. As a
        special extra, the brand new FidoDeluxe package by Michael Haase is
        also included, and enables immediate participation in FidoNet using
        Fido Over IP. This means that we have covered all the routes by
        which FidoNet is generally accessed: modem, ISDN and DSL.

     Not even an internet account is required to obtain a point number from
     us. For just this purpose, the WIF also offers a FAX retrieval service
     to help prospective points to register with us. In addition, we have
     installed a hotline to provide direct assistance for installations and
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     the initial startup.

     The editorial deadline for the WID CD-ROM Second Edition is April 17,
     2002, and the CD will be available by mid-May.


     So what is this "WIF" anyway?

     WIF stands for "What is Fido?". That is also the name (in German) of
     the Internet home page www.was-ist-fido.de. Around the end of the
     nineties, a few people in FidoNet (Region 24, Zone 2) got together to
     finally create a long-overdue source of information on FidoNet on the
     Internet. We are proud to note that our home page is the largest and
     most comprehensive on FidoNet that we have seen to date. And we have
     even enjoyed some success in our work. We are able to direct new
     points to our partner nodes at regular intervals.

     Unfortunately, we still remain a purely German-language web page,
     since we have not yet assembled enough people willing and able to
     translate the site into English. However, this remains a priority.

     WIF Project Germany

     Post Office Box 1245
     D-46356 Heiden / Germany

     Hotline                            +49-2865-6099918
     Telefax                            +49-2865-6099919
     Fax Retrieval Service (1 page)     +49-2865-6099917

     FidoNet Echos                               WIF.GER
                                         WIF.NEWBEES.GER

     WWW                      http://www.was-ist-fido.de
     eMail                          info@was-ist-fido.de
     yahoogroups   was-ist-fido-subscribe@yahoogroups.de


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                      REBUTTALS TO PREVIOUS ARTICLES
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                  Calling Cats that have cheap seats
                            By Frank Vest

      Congratulations to Mr. (Cool Hand) Luke. He hit pretty good on his
     article on healthcare, Canada vs USA. There is one area that was
     overlooked, though.... maybe it had a slight hit, but not much.

      One thing I note about the healthcare in Canada... if I'm not off
     base, is that the healthcare is considered "free". I don't know where
     I remember hearing this, but I remember being told that Canada was
     great because the healthcare there is free.

      Free? What is free? Hang in here while I try to loop this back around
     to Luke's article. :) Healthcare is free?? Well, Luke seems to think
     that the quality of healthcare in Canada stinks. From his description,
     I'd have to agree. Luke seems to think that the quality of care in the
     USA is great... at least by comparison. I'd have to agree there as
     well. The real question that wasn't really dug into is the "why?".
     Much of that is related to the cost.... and a lot of the cost falls
     back on an area that most don't want to get into. The citizens of the
     country. Yes, rather you want to admit it or not, /you/ the citizen
     that uses the service, be it government or privately funded, are the
     ones that pay for the service.

      Now wait a minute. The healthcare is free.. That means you don't have
     to pay anything, right??  Well... If you wanna believe that... ok.
     I'll sell you some "prime" land I happen to not own here in the USA.
     :-)

      Yes folks, this may be a shock, but you pay for everything in one way
     or the other. In the USA, it is said that the children can get a
     "free" education. Well... sure they can. The children don't pay for
     it... the adults pay for it. Oh... You thought it was free... really
     free???  Tell me that each year when I get my tax statement on the
     house I'm buying. "School Tax: $800.00" per year and going up. :(

      How does this relate to healthcare?? Do I really need to tell you?
     Naw, you're not that dumb. What I do want to do is state one reason
     for the cost of healthcare.  This falls back to you, the citizen.
     You're probably wondering what the heck I mean, or you've already
     figured this out and are hitting the "next" key.

      For those who are still here.... Keep in mind that insurance
     companies are not in business to lose money. As Mr. Kolin noted, one
     should put in as much as one gets out of the healthcare insurance. The
     insurance companies are betting that you will pay in more than you
     use. If that is not the case, the insurance rates go up. When I hear
     someone say "That's why I pay for insurance" and take off in their car
     at 90 MHP down a street, my first thought is "There goes the insurance
     rates again".

      Insurance, government or private, in its simple form is a savings
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     account contributed to by the members and managed by a company or
     government. Each member contributes to the fund and if an emergency
     happens, can withdraw funds to cover that emergency. The problem
     arrives when more is being taken out of the fund for "emergency" than
     is being put in. When this happens, the insurance rate increases to
     cover the shortage. Simply put, if all the members are contributing
     $100 a month and taking out $200 a month, the rates will have to
     increase to cover the shortage.

      So, next time you have a "hangnail" and think about going to the
     doctor because "That's why I pay insurance", think about why your
     insurance costs go up.


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                      OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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                                  Ol'WDB's Column
                                wdbonner@pacbell.net

     Near twenty years have come and gone, and all of them were fun in
     Fido-land untill the present one.  A non elected group has decided
     that they will run a "new fidonet", and cause the demise of the
     existing Fidonet.  Their ploy is to discard and junk our policy,
     replacing it with several sheets of paper they have etched their
     ambitions upon.  The present name for their document is P5.  You see
     they discovered that trashing Fidonet left them with no policy, so
     they hurriedly threw "P5" together thinking that they could entice
     nodes away from the real Fidonet by using modified policy itself, and
     making their own nodelist. Their nodelist had five or six  in it plus
     some nodes that were told  they could join with them and be in
     Fidonet.  That gave them a small number in their new node list say ten
     or twelve.  They realized that this was not a good showing at all!  So
     they decided to steal the regular Fidonet node list and incorporate it
     in their "Otherlist" to make it look more real. Then were they upset
     when they found out the International Coordinator would not accept it
     in his weekly Fidonet nodelist.  The IC authorizes nodediffs from the
     six zone coordinators. This group of rebels is now very upset that
     they can't take over Fidonet.

     I suggest that they secede from Fidonet and form their own
     "Wolfgangnet", "Doggonenet", "Dogrunnet", or what ever they want to
     call it. Those few nodes in their Otherlist, are either people or they
     are sheeple.  If they are people they will contact their regional
     coordinator for a new Fidonet node number; if not, then they can
     follow their Otherlisters.  They, all five or six of them, would be
     happier whining to each other, and Fidonet wouldn't have to listen to
     the disrespectful remarks they constantly throw at our *C's.

     Our esteemed Dale Shipp and Bob Short and several others, have spent
     many hours on technical modifications to Policy 4.07 to make it up to
     date.  The first changes to it are already with the RCC.  When it is
     complete it will be posted by the International Coordinator to take
     effect at a date, I am told.

     There is no rhyme or reason for the actions of the rebels. This week a
     couple of them quit Fidonet.  I am sorry to see anyone leave, but if
     they have to be boss or leave... "Vaya con Dios", as Ward and Jerry
     have said.  This Fidonet is for nodes that want to communicate with
     like kind, for ideas and instructions on how to operate a good BBS and
     perhaps have a sip of Southern Comfort(TM) or Coffee Royal. 8^) On a
     lighter note, did you hear about Clyde?

     Clyde, a farmer in Alabama, decided his injuries from the accident he
     had suffered were serious enough to take the trucking company
     (responsible for the accident) to court.  In court the trucking
     company's fancy lawyer was questioning Clyde. "Didn't you say at the
     scene of the accident, 'I'm fine?'" asked the lawyer.

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     Clyde responded, "Well, I'll tell you what happened.  I had just
     loaded my favorite mule Bessie into the..."

     "I didn't ask for any details," the lawyer interrupted, "just answer
     the question.  Did you or did you not say 'I'm fine' at the scene of
     the accident?"

     Clyde said, "Well, yes, but I had just got Bessie into the trailer and
     was driving down the road..."

     The lawyer interrupted again and said, "Judge, I am trying to
     establish the fact that, at the scene of the accident, this man told
     the Highway Patrolman on the scene that he was just fine. Now several
     weeks after the accident he is trying to sue my client.  I believe he
     is a fraud. Please tell him to simply answer the question."

     By this time the Judge was fairly interested in Clyde's answer and
     said to the lawyer, "I'd like to hear what he has to say about his
     favorite mule, Bessie."

     Clyde thanked the Judge and proceeded, "Well, like I was saying, had
     just loaded Bessie, my favorite mule, into the trailer and was driving
     her down the highway when this huge semi-truck and trailer ran the
     stop sign and smacked my truck right in the side. I was thrown into
     one ditch and Bessie was thrown into the other ditch on other side of
     the road. I was hurting real bad and didn't want to move.  However, I
     could hear old Bessie moaning and groaning. I knew she was in terrible
     shape just by her groans.  "About that time a Highway Patrolman came
     on the scene.  He could hear Bessie moaning and groaning so he went
     over to her.  "After he looked at her he took out his gun and shot her
     between the eyes.  "Then the Patrolman came across the road with his
     gun in his hand and looked at me and said,  'And, how are you
     feeling?"

     Warm Regards
     Ol'wdb


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                      FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
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                    Japanese Daikon Chicken Soup

           4 ea Chicken legs/thighs (1 lb)
           4 ea Slices daikon
           6 oz Dry red beans
           3 ea Satsuma Imo
           1 tb Dry parsley
           2 ts Ginger, fresh, grated
           1 ts Marjoram
                Water to cover plus 2 inches

       This is more of my 'outa stuff' cookery.  I just didnt feel like
     going to the Tonoo Market Street but needed some food handy.  Here's
     the result and it's a winner!

       The Satsuma Imo is a japanese local 'sweet yam' which isnt as sweet
     as the North American type, nor as large.  Mashed those 3 would make
     about 1.5 cups (or perhaps a bit less).  Red fleshed with a thin skin
     and a mild yellow interior, this is a good vegetable to have handy.
     Lasts a very long time in the crisper.  These I just added whole and
     they have largely just disappeared into the soup, skin and all. Peeled
     North American type would work as a substitute.

       The daikon flavors the soup base.  For looks, you may want to remove
     the cooked portions and add fresh in at serving time for the 'crunch'
     they would add.  Substitute mild North American Radishes if Daikon
     isnt available where you are.

       You may also want to try white beans vice the red I had handy.  If
     you are out of fresh ginger, dried would likely work here.  As this
     isn't traditional 'Japanese' I didn't add that catagory.  I wanted to
     prevent possible confusion.

       Something new from the kitchen of:  xxcarol



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                            CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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                       BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #12

     I get to work and I'm a bit tired so I plug a thick hunk of copper
     across the  three  phase  supply  and  throw the switch.  The room is
     plunged into darkness as the circuit breakers trip and for once the
     machine room is silent.

     I like it.

     I pop the phone off the hook and close the curtains on the observation
     window. Now it's *really* dark in there.  I wouldn't be surprised if
     someone had an accident in here..

     I lift a couple of floor tiles up in the darkness and call our
     maintenance contractors saying the mini popped the breaker again, then
     replace the fuses in it with a couple of nails and short the power
     supply to ground.  You can't just hope for this sort of thing, you've
     got to MAKE it happen.

     15 minutes later the engineer arives and falls down the hole.  I pop
     the floor tiles back on just as the System Manager (a new and very
     thorough individual) comes in, telling me to watch out, someone could
     really hurt themselves in the dark...

     I nod & tell him that we can't really afford all the downtime, and
     should I just throw the breaker and hope that there was no major
     fault.  After thinking about the negative publicity we're getting
     already, he makes the last decision of his short career and tells me
     to go ahead.

     Later, when the smoke clears I examine the smoking remains of the
     mini.  Not a pretty sight...

     "Strange that the breaker jammed shut, isn't it?" I say to our manager
     as he packs up the personal things in his office.  "One in a million
     chance.  A pity that someone saw what you did and posted the whole
     story to comp.misc.  You'll be lucky to get a job managing a car
     computer after all that publicity..."

     I go back to the machine room and throw the rest of the breakers to
     liven everything  up,  then  login  and  start  deleting  users'
     email.  I spot an interesting off-the-record sexual proposition from
     our male consultant to a member of the men's swim team which will make
     a good motd, so I copy it there, modify root's owner name to be
     "Winker" and password to be "ljkadlkajflkj" (then call the big boss to
     report a suspected intrusion).  Should be at least a couple of hours
     of login time before we can sort that out.  In the meantime, people
     are just going to have to read that message... I realise the message
     has been read when I hear the gunshot from behind the consultant's
     closed door.

     I edit the online helpdesk information and change the phone number to
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     the System Manager's  -  he'll probably appreciate the extra calls at
     such a sad time...

     I hear another shot and realise he won't be answering any calls today.

     I put the phone back on the hook and flip today's excuse card.  "Poor
     power conditioning".  Too plausible.  "STATIC BUILDUP".  Still a bit
     too plausible for my liking, but I don't want to run out of cards
     before the end of the year, so I decide to run with it.

     The phone rings almost as soon as I've got "Top Gun" in the video
     machine so I pause the video and put the phone on hands-free.

     "I think I've bought a bad floppy disk"

     "Yes?"  I wonder if I've suddenly become the consumer's watchdog?

     "Well, I've got this disk and it won't format.  All the others in the
     box did so I thought I must have a bad disk"

     "Why are you calling me about this?" I ask

     "Well, the disk says guaranteed; where do I go to get a replacement?"

     Ah!  Of course.

     "Well, let's see.  Are you sure it's the disk, and not just some
     problem with static buildup?"

     "Huh?"

     "Static Buildup, you know, static electricity that's passed from you
     to the computer"

     "But I'm wearing a wrist strap!"

     Around about now I realise I'm deep in dweeb country.  Wrist straps
     aren't fashion accessories in my part of town...

     "Of course you are, but your average wrist strap has a 1 meg resistor
     in series with it, a *really* poor earth.  What you need is a direct
     earth connection.  Hang onto the frame of something that's earthed
     properly."

     "What, you mean like our stainless steel bench?"

     "Excellent.  Now, have you got a paper clip to discharge the static
     with?"

     "Hang on.  Yeah"

     "Ok, with your other hand, poke the clip thru the ventilation holes at
     the back of the unit, and just touch the contact at the end of the
     thick red wire."

     "The one going to the power supply?"
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     "Yep, that's it"

     "....Hey, isn't that the li... kzzzzt!<   >clunk<"

     Another call solved by the helpdesk from hell...


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                    Out of the mouths of children...
                         By Warren Bonner

     I was driving with my three young children one warm summer evening
     when a woman in the convertible ahead of us stood up and waved. She
     was stark naked! As I was reeling from the shock, I heard my
     five-year-old shout from the back seat, "Mom! That lady isn't wearing
     a seat belt!"

     On the first day of school, a first grader handed his teacher a note
     from his mother. The note read, "The opinions expressed by this child
     are not necessarily those of his parents."

     A woman was trying hard to get the catsup to come out of the jar.
     During her struggle the phone rang so she asked her four-year old
     daughter to answer the phone. "It's the minister, Mommy," the child
     said to her mother. Then she added, " Mommy can't come to the phone to
     talk to you right now. She's hitting the bottle."

     I love the outdoors, and because of my passion for hunting and
     fishing, my family eats a considerable amount of wild game. So much,
     in fact, that one evening as I set a platter of broiled venison steaks
     on the dinner table, my ten-year-old daughter looked up and said,
     "Boy, it sure would be nice if pizzas lived in the woods."

     When my daughter was three, we watched Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
     for the first time. The wicked queen appeared, disguised as an old
     lady selling apples, and my daughter was spellbound. Then Snow White
     took a bite of the poisoned apple and fell to the ground unconscious.
     As the apple rolled away, my daughter spoke up. "See, Mom. She doesn't
     like the skin either."

     A little boy got lost at the YMCA and found himself in the women's
     locker room. When he was spotted, the room burst into shrieks, with
     ladies grabbing towels and running for cover. The little boy watched
     in amazement and then asked, "What's the matter -- haven't you ever
     seen a little boy before?"

     A little boy forgot his lines in a Sunday School presentation. His
     mother, sitting in the front row to prompt him, gestured and formed
     the words silently with her lips, but it didn't help. Her son's memory
     was blank. Finally she leaned forward and whispered the cue, "I am the
     light of the world." The child beamed and with great feeling and a
     loud, clear voice said, "My mother is the light of the world."

     A teacher asked her students to draw a picture of their favorite Old
     Testament story, and as she moved around the class, she saw there were
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 15                  15 Apr 2002


     many wonderful drawings being done. Then she came across Johnny who
     had drawn a man driving an old car. In the back seat was a
     scantily-clad man and woman. "It's a lovely picture," said the
     teacher, "but which story does it tell?" Johnny seemed surprised at
     the question.  "Well," he exclaimed, "doesn't it say in the Bible that
     God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden?"

     That's All Folks!
     Ol'wdb


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     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 16                  15 Apr 2002


     =================================================================
                 TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================


                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 17                  15 Apr 2002


     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 18                  15 Apr 2002


     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |IM  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |IM  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |IM  |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 19                  15 Apr 2002


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

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     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 20                  15 Apr 2002


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               Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com



     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     | Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   | Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   | Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     | Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   | Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   | Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     | Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    | Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     | Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 768k  | FREE
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    | Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     | Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 22                  15 Apr 2002


      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   | Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      275/311   | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1  |n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      379/1     | Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   | Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
       53/558   |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      201/600   | Hkan Andersson   |BinkP,FTP       |512kbps| n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k  | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   | Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   | Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 19-15               Page 23                  15 Apr 2002


      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  | Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   | Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     | Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   | Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   | Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238   | Sergey Gubanov    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
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     Zone 3
      633/260   | Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   | Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     * QWK    = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.fidotel.com (currently offline)
     news.osirusoft.com
     news.tardis.net
     nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
     nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)
     irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
     irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
     irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido


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                             SPECIAL INTEREST
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                         Nodelist Stats

      Input nodelist  nodelist.102
                size  1117.3kb
                date  2002-04-12

      The nodelist has  10047 nodes in it
        and a total of  12953 non-comment entries

              including     6 zones
                           63 regions
                          469 hosts
                          691 hubs
         admin overhead  1229 ( 12.23 %)

                    and   910 private nodes
                          364 nodes down
                          403 nodes on hold
      off line overhead  1677 ( 16.69 %)


      Speed summary:

               >9600 =    929 (  9.25 %)
                9600 =   8602 ( 85.62 %)
                              (HST  =  185 or   2.15 %)
                              (CSP  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (PEP  =   13 or   0.15 %)
                              (MAX  =    0 or   0.00 %)
                              (HAY  =    1 or   0.01 %)
                              (V32  = 4830 or  56.15 %)
                              (V32B =  507 or   5.89 %)
                              (V34  = 5733 or  66.65 %)
                              (V42  = 4717 or  54.84 %)
                              (V42B =  530 or   6.16 %)
                2400 =    107 (  1.06 %)
                1200 =      6 (  0.06 %)
                 300 =    403 (  4.01 %)

                ISDN =   1051 ( 10.46 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      File Req Flag   Applicable software     Number of systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3656
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
                      Xenia
     --------------------------------------
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 8
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       10
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          6
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      63
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     396
                      Tabby
                      KittenMail
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30                4472
                      Frontdoor 1.99b
                      Intermail 2.01
                      T-Mail
     --------------------------------------
      None            QMM                          1436
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   3273 ( 32.58 %)
      MailOnly nodes    =   5427 ( 54.02 %)
      Listed-only nodes =    783 (  7.79 %)
      Other             =    564 (  5.61 %)

      [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
      [                                 Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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