Date: 16 Sep 2000 06:15:17 -0400 Message-ID: <20000916101517.23036.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com> From: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org (Telecom Digest) To: telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Subject: Telecom Digest V2000 #55 Reply-To: editor@telecom-digest.org Sender: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Errors-To: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 3ca991818ef64aedfffa0c6b7b6a17fe Status: RO X-Status: Telecom Digest Saturday, September 16 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 055 In this issue: Re: Canadian Landline to Wireless Number Portability (article) Sorry, but... Re: Sorry, but... Re: Sorry, but... Re: Sorry, but... Re: Sorry, but... 9/15/00 ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES job search Message format (was: Radio Shack gives away barcode scanner...) For Amazon, Honesty May Not Be the Best Policy GTE Bay Area Re: Radio Shack gives away barcode scanner, but is privacy compromised? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Sep 2000 09:58:13 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Canadian Landline to Wireless Number Portability (article) Michael D. Sullivan wrote: >> wrote: > Wireless carriers in the US are currently under an obligation to implement > local number portability (LNP) by November 2001. The wireless LNP date has Will this obligation be like the obligation to provide caller ID info? i.e. they won't really enforce it to any phone company's inconvenience? > to let it know it's in town. The host system sends the number to a > clearinghouse, which identifies the home carrier associated with the phone's > number and stores this in a database. It is able to tell this from the > first six digits of the phone number, "NPA-NXX." If a call is made to the So, the cellular companies designed a poor system for looking up roaming phone numbers. This problem should have been obvious to them when they were building the infrastructure. I can see at least two ways this could have been implemented better. Either they should have used the entire phone number as the search key, or they could just fire queries at *all* the wireless carriers in the NPA-NXX and see which one responds. > The wireless industry has been working on a solution to this: separate the > number used inside the phone for identification from the number used for > dialing. Right now the same number (your phone number) is used for both, > and is known as the Mobile Identification Number or MIN. The new system > will continue to use a MIN to identify the phone, but it won't necessarily > be your phone number. Your phone number will be the Mobile Directory Number > or MDN. The separation of the MIN and MDN will allow the roaming database > to identify your home carrier from the MIN. The carriers will translate > between MIN and MDN for placing or receiving calls by reference to a > translation table or database. Sounds like they are building another bad idea on top of the old one. Why don't they just use the whole 10 digit phone number instead of creating another "hidden" number just to figure out who the home carrier is? The first 6 digits cuts the possibilities down to at most 7 carriers, so you can either just set up the clearing house database to hold the entire 10 digits, or blind query all 7 possible carriers and only one should answer. > This is obviously a huge and complex effort, and requires more time than > making wireline number portability possible, since the entire country will > have to cut over to the new system at once for roaming to work. Wireline > number portability simply requires, well, porting a number locally between > the two carriers involved. > Is that clear as mud? Oh, I understand. It is always difficult to modify a well established infrastructure like this. It just seems like they should have seen this coming. >> > I hope the FCC gets on the ball and makes this happen, though they >> > haven't gotten universal caller ID to work yet, so I won't hold >> > my breath. > The FCC has indeed mandated this. It just takes a while to rebuild the > entire nation's wireless roaming systems. Will they really make it happen though? Universal caller ID was mandated for what, 1997 was it? How many people are still getting "out of area" and "unavailable" on their incoming calls? > Wireless carriers may or may not be motivated to implement number > portability, but they are spending a lot of money to do it, because they > have to. They will indeed be required to play by "landline rules," as far > as number portability is concerned. So maybe next year (Nov. 2001) I'll be able to cancel my wired line and go cellular. I look forward to it, because there is no other competition in my area. - -- ***************************************************************************** * Bill Ranck +1-540-231-3951 ranck@vt.edu * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, Computing Center * ***************************************************************************** - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 14:23:59 -0400 From: blackhole@handheld.net Subject: Sorry, but... I am sorry that some of you could not read my previous message. Since this list is Robo-Moderated it apparently does not accept Usenet posts. So I have to send via E-mail and I use Eudora and it simply will not break up the lines unless I double-space them like this. (Unless there is a way to do it that I have not figured out.) At the same time, in the year 2000, I cannot understand why anyone is using a newsreader that can't handle line wrapping. The !'s were not in my original text, they must have been added by the mail to news conversion routine. When we had a human moderator, posts from Usenet were accepted and we did not have this problem (also I could munge my return address in such a way that a human could figure out how to contact me via e-mail). Again I apologize to those who had a problem with my previous post but all I can suggest is that you export it to a text file and use a decent text editor to break up the lines, or consider moving into the 21st century and find a newsreader that has no problem with long lines (also, it would be nice if the Robo-Moderator could be programmed to break up long lines, or if posts from Usenet could once again be allowed). I hope the lines in this message are not too long, Eudora does not even give me a way to count characters in a line! - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 14:51:24 -0400 From: stevenl11@aol.com (Steven Lichter) Subject: Re: Sorry, but... > >I am sorry that some of you could not read my previous message. > > >Since this list is Robo-Moderated it apparently does not accept > >Usenet posts. > I have never had a problem, as long as the bot can read and send a notice to your posting the first time, and gets a validation, from that point there should nt be a problem. I get a reply to my posts all the time, I just have the bots address in my Q so it gets through the spam blocks!! Apple Elite II 909-359-5338. Home of GBBS/LLUCE, support for the Apple II and Macintosh 24 hours 2400/14.4. An OggNet Server. http://www.delphi.com/gbbs The only good spammer is a dead one, have you hunted one down today? (c) - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 14:59:29 -0400 From: Joel B Levin Subject: Re: Sorry, but... In <4.3.2.7.2.20000915134221.00dcf9c0@pop.novagate.com>, blackhole@handheld.net wrote: }I am sorry that some of you could not read my previous message. } } }Since this list is Robo-Moderated it apparently does not accept } }Usenet posts. If you are using a decent usenet server, posted messages to moderated groups like this should be automatically forwarded to the robo-moderator for posting. Also, I find it hard to believe that there isn't somewhere in Eudora an option to wrap lines on output. /JBL - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 16:19:15 -0400 From: Steve Kostecke Subject: Re: Sorry, but... In comp.dcom.telecom, blackhole@handheld.net wrote: [snip: an empty apology] >So I have to send via E-mail and I use Eudora and it simply will not >break up the lines unless I double-space them like this. (Unless there >is a way to do it that I have not figured out.) See http://chibiusa.addr.com/pluto/llguide.html Or consult your favorite search engine (the choice of key-words is left as an exercise for the reader.) >At the same time, in the year 2000, I cannot understand why anyone is >using a newsreader that can't handle line wrapping. I can not understand why, in the year 2000, you are using a newsreader that does not follow usenet conventions. [snip: an attempt to attribute your failure to follow usenet conventions to the mail to news gateway.] [snip: an attempt to attribute your failure to follow usenet conventions to the lack of a human moderator. And an attempt to justify your use of a false mailing address.] >Again I apologize to those who had a problem with my previous post but >all I can suggest is that you export it to a text file and use a decent >text editor to break up the lines, And I suggest that you format your postings in accordance with existing usenet conventions. [snip: an attempt to attribute your failure to follow usenet conventions to someone elses choice of newsreader.] [snip: an attempt to attribute your failure to follow usenet conventions to the Robo-Moderator.] >I hope the lines in this message are not too long, Eudora does not even >give me a way to count characters in a line! Why don't you consider moving into the 21st century and find an MUA that properly breaks your lines of text. - -- ____ ||k || Steve Kostecke ||__|| |/__\| slrn - vi - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 17:04:15 -0400 From: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Subject: Re: Sorry, but... [This message would have been sent privately except that the original author has a broken reply address.] In article <4.3.2.7.2.20000915134221.00dcf9c0@pop.novagate.com>, wrote: >At the same time, in the year 2000, I cannot understand why > >anyone is using a newsreader that can't handle line wrapping. It is not the business of a news client to wrap lines, or do anything else to damage the original article author's presentation. - -GAWollman - -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. 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He has 13 years of experience and was forced out of the radio busness because he was too good and made too much money. We live in a small city in Texas and most radio stations here are owned by Accumulus Broadcasting. He went from making 25,000 a year to begging for minnimum wage jobs. Him and I met through the radio and have been together since. i would hate to see him give up on what he does best . If you have any advice please send it to me. I have searched high and low for any opportunity that may shine apon us. No luck. needing your advise, Traci - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 21:14:02 -0400 From: John De Hoog Subject: Message format (was: Radio Shack gives away barcode scanner...) Matt Ackeret wrote in response to BlackHole... >Your post has a lot of strange cut-off lines like this, with !s added at >the end of the cut off lines. I don't quite understand your complaint or that of Matthew Black. Don't your readers have the option of fitting text to your view window? BlackHole's message looks fine here, and conforms to any window size I give it. In the distant past it may have been correct protocol to put in hard carriage returns a la the typewriter; but this is the age of HTML and format=flowed, where the person viewing (or listening to) a message can adjust it to individual needs. If you consider the needs of the visually impaired, for example, it makes more sense to send messages that can easily be reformatted with large type, etc. That's the beauty of electronic messages -- the recipient does not have to be bound to the format used by the sender. - -- John De Hoog, Tokyo http://dehoog.org - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 22:13:59 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: For Amazon, Honesty May Not Be the Best Policy For Amazon, Honesty May Not Be the Best Policy http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18538,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 22:23:17 -0400 From: "John Willkie" Subject: GTE Bay Area Re; you're posting about gte in the bay area. The franchises were established about six or seven decades (or more) before the Rural Electrification Administration or the FCC started handing out subsidies, and then (with a couple of exceptions) only to RURAL telephone companies/systems. (GTE did quite well at that trough, then sold off many small systems in the 1990's). You should examine telephone history: Bell and Home battled it out overbuilding in the same markets, without interconnection. GTE's predecessors got hick towns (Santa Monica, Los Gatos, Morgan Hill) and interconnected with Bell and sometimes Home. Some of those communities are now significant in size: until you look at the other cities in their local metropolitan areas. John Willkie jwillkie@digitalspotnews.com, jmwillkie@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2000 23:36:44 -0400 From: "Ed Ellers" Subject: Re: Radio Shack gives away barcode scanner, but is privacy compromised? wrote "The first part of the Radio Shack Catalog (probably the first 70 pages or so) is all telephone-related gear. I haven't had a Shack catalog in several years and was quite surprised at the level of sophistication of the phone equipment they're selling now. They're still not in the category of a "Hello Direct" or similar company, and I have no idea how competitive their prices are, but if you need phone gear you just may be surprised at what they do offer now." Keep in mind that anything with a red or purple catalog number is not stocked in the stores, but is available by special order through the RadioShack Unlimited program; this seems to account for much of the increased size of the catalog in recent years. They've done this for decades with tubes, phono styli and specialty batteries, but have expanded it to cover many more categories of items. (RSU tems with red catalog numbers can be ordered in stores, on their Web site or from their 800 number; RSU items with purple catalog numbers apparently cannot be ordered from the Web site.) I was really surprised that they're not only selling a butt set now, but it's a stock item for $130! - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ End of Telecom Digest V2000 #55 *******************************