Date: 4 Oct 2000 06:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: <20001004101510.16519.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com> From: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org (Telecom Digest) To: telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Subject: Telecom Digest V2000 #76 Reply-To: editor@telecom-digest.org Sender: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Errors-To: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 9f76bc1b43dd9659f8e9f891b1a5a1f9 Status: RO X-Status: Telecom Digest Wednesday, October 4 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 076 In this issue: Re: E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served Time Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Time Re: Carnivore Review Team Exposed! Re: Time Web-based email services offer employees little privacy Question about prepaid Int'l calling cards 10/3/00 ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES AOL Wants to 'Opt Out' Net Patent Bill Introduced Fiber Optical Assembly Sampling Tellme Nets $125 Million Investment DoCoMo and AOL to Join in Japan DoCoMo to Push i-mode Into Europe Exodus to Buy GlobalCenter for $6.5 Billion E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served Is Global Crossing the Anna Nicole Smith of Telcos? Another Shakeup at T-Online Verizon Wireless Digital Single Rate ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Oct 2000 10:04:44 -0400 From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: Re: E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served In article <8r3k2v$8tu$1@cesium.transmeta.com>, hpa@zytor.com says... > >They claim "opt-in", but I have gotten spammed by a number of >companies which claim "opt-in" which really aren't -- in fact, one of >the worst offenders have been the Microsoft "Freedom to Innovate" >network, which has been spamming me with propaganda broadcasts for >many months. The first few times I dutifully used their removal >webpage, but it never has any effect -- despite the claim that it will >remove you from all Micro$oft mailing lists. > >Anyone that know of any identifying mark these guys use that one can >use to bounce their mail? I too had trouble removing my name from Microsoft mailing lists despite numerous requests. It was most effective when I changed my e-mail address to bill_gates@microsoft.com. Haven't received any spam since. matthew - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 13:23:49 -0400 From: John Beaderstadt Subject: Time Following is a note I posted to rec.astro.amateur; they suggested I post it here. > I've set my computer to call in to the Naval Observatory atomic clock > for periodic adjustments of my computer's system clock; from this, I set > all the clocks in my house (and car). My Caller ID boxes and fax, > though, display the time as dictated by the phone company, and there is > usually a four-minute difference between computer and phone. > > Astronomically, four minutes is a pretty big discrepancy, yet most > people seem to set their own clocks by phone time. The thought occurs to > me that, in navigation, an error of four minutes could represent a > positional error of four nautical miles; at sea, the horizon is only > *three* nautical miles away (depending on the height of the observer). A > four-minute error, then, could mean that something important could go > entirely unnoticed by a wide margin. (Yes, I know there is no AT&T on > the ocean, I'm just thinking). > > From where does the phone company get its time? Does anyone here use > phone time for their astronomy? From where does your boss get his time, > so he knows whether you're late to work? - -- "I tried to imagine the easiest way God could have done it." --Albert Einstein 44:57:19N 73:16:18W - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 15:55:24 -0400 From: craigm@earthling.net (Craig Macbride) Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Daniel Seagraves writes: >I'm sorry, but I have a CB radio in my truck for a couple very good >reasons[1], and if I lose my ability to use the radio just because a >couple idiots drive the cellphone instead of their cars[2], I'm going to >be very unhappy with it. And, rightfully so. I don't have either a CB or a mobile phone and have no vested interest either way, except as a motorist. Here in Australia, where mobile phone use is far more widespread than in the USA, using a hand-held one was banned years ago, and, I believe, rightfully so. The main thing I've seen with hand-held phones is that most people simply can't make sharp right-angle turns properly while holding one. Talking to passengers doesn't matter in this situation. Talking on the CB could, but the CB mic is easy to hang up while still listening to the CB. There is often nowhere convenient for a driver to put a hand-held phone, and they can't hear what the other party is saying once they have. I must say that waiting for more death statistics as one person suggested seems wrong to me. Most driving where this matters doesn't happen at high speeds and won't kill anyone anyhow. It does, however, cause minor crashes and inconvenience enormous numbers of drivers, as phone-using drivers wander all over lanes at extremely low speed while chatting. Ideally, they should simply be booked for not being in control of their vehicle, but police everywhere have the same problem that any judgement such as that will be argued in court. Banning hand-held phones makes it far simpler in the real world for the cops to act against idiots. - -- Craig Macbride - -----------------------http://www.nyx.net/~cmacbrid------------------------ "It's a sense of humour like mine, Carla, that makes me proud to be ashamed of myself." - Captain Kremmen - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 16:45:13 -0400 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Followup to: <970557910.330918@irys.nyx.net> By author: craigm@earthling.net (Craig Macbride) In newsgroup: comp.dcom.telecom > > The main thing I've seen with hand-held phones is that most people simply > can't make sharp right-angle turns properly while holding one. Talking to > passengers doesn't matter in this situation. Talking on the CB could, > but the CB mic is easy to hang up while still listening to the CB. There > is often nowhere convenient for a driver to put a hand-held phone, and they > can't hear what the other party is saying once they have. > I agree with your assessment about handheld phones, but it does make me wonder if there is a difference between North America and the rest of the world, since North America seems to have a much higher percentage of vehicles with automatic transmissions. Driving with a handheld phone in a stickshift seems like a suicide waiting to happen, IMO... -hpa - -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 17:08:27 -0400 From: sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net (Steve Sobol) Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws >>From 'H. Peter Anvin': >Driving with a handheld phone in a stickshift seems like a suicide >waiting to happen, IMO... Eh? I do it every day. You don't normally need to shift once you're at cruising speed. The amount of time I spend shifting gears is miniscule compared to the amount of time I spend piloting the car to its destination. - -- A beautiful Chow puppy was rescued a couple months ago from the Geauga County, Ohio animal shelter and has been fostered in a home in Montville, OH. After receiving medical care and much love, he's ready for a permanent home. http://www.WrinkleDogs.com/rescue/fall2000/ - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 19:29:51 -0400 From: Jonathan Seder Subject: Re: Time >> ... a four-minute difference between computer and phone. This was discussed here a while ago - maybe around March 21 of this year. There are several precise time standards - the (U.S.) National Institute of Standards and Technology runs WWV which in turn drives most Internet (RFC 868) time standards. Astronomers use WWV time, I believe, with adjustments. The GPS satellites also have their own, slightly offset standard. The various phone companies have precise time standards for clocking their various synchronous communications systems. Even though precise standards are readily available, the phone company's voice time service may very well be set casually from an employee's wristwatch. The time-of-day on a cell phone might be highly accurate or might be casually set... If you have 'Net access, an RFC868 time program is the easiest way to get a very accurate time. NIST runs a couple of servers but you should look for a nearby one with low latency. The best time standard is a short-wave radio (for WWV) or a clock that syncs itself to WWV. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:19:33 -0400 From: John McHarry Subject: Re: Carnivore Review Team Exposed! That is extremely weird. Did you call them at a published number? This sounds far too much like a Trojan Horse. They don't seem to post any email addresses on their home page, so maybe FBI prohibits email communication and somebody inside is trying to bypass that. But other parts of DOJ have email addresses. Something is afoot. On 3 Oct 2000 01:13:01 -0400, "Michael D. Sullivan" wrote: >The yahoo.com address was supplied by the FBI in written materials, and >confirmed by telephone with the FBI staff responsible for processing CALEA >implementation plans, after folks at my law firm were just a bit >incredulous. We got written confirmations from the FBI for the filings >submitted via yahoo.com, identical to those received for hand-delivered >filings. STRANGE BUT TRUE. > >-- >Michael D. Sullivan >avogadro@bellatlantic.net >Bethesda, MD, USA >"John McHarry" wrote in message >news:qbedts4rkrhgahqp219defd69ks9d3odrt@4ax.com... >> On 29 Sep 2000 03:46:24 -0400, "Michael D. Sullivan" >> wrote: >> >> .... >> >This FBI ineptness with regard to privacy and security isn't surprising. >> >When the FBI "invited" telecom carriers to reveal highly sensitive >> >information regarding their switches, etc., in connection with CALEA >> >compliance earlier this year, the Feds asked that the information be >emailed >> >to a free account at yahoo.com. Believe it or not, it's true. >> >> Well, _somebody_ may have "invited" them. I doubt the FBI uses >> Yahoo accounts for something like that. >> -- >> The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail >> messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 20:57:44 -0400 From: Stanley Cline Subject: Re: Time On 3 Oct 2000 19:29:51 -0400, in comp.dcom.telecom you wrote: >wristwatch. The time-of-day on a cell phone might be highly accurate or >might be casually set... On CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, etc.) phones, the time is sent by the network and synced to the GPS time standard, as CDMA uses GPS for precision timing (GPS receivers are installed at each CDMA base station.) With other types of phones, the time isn't sent by the network but is programmed by the user. - -SC - -- Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ ... "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 22:07:33 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Web-based email services offer employees little privacy Web-based email services offer employees little privacy By Rachel Konrad and Sam Ames Staff Writers, CNET News.com October 3, 2000, 1:30 p.m. PT Everyone knows the boss can read all of the email you send and receive through your corporate account. Unfortunately, security experts say many employees would be surprised to know that Web-based email services also offer little privacy. Messages sent via a Yahoo or Hotmail account, or through instant messaging products, such as ICQ or America Online's Instant Messenger (AIM), are just as accessible to nosy employers. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-2924978.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 2000 22:13:38 -0400 From: adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) Subject: Question about prepaid Int'l calling cards (I feel like spam bait bait, but here goes) A friend is about to relocate from the USA to Belgium as an Army spouse. It occured to me that a pre-paid calling card that would let her make lots of calls back to the USA would be a useful going-away gift. I'm looking for a card with a fair per-minute rate that I can get quickly. Any suggestions ? Also, does do US Army people assigned overseas get some deal that makes a calling card not a good deal. Thanks. (A pox, in the form of a PC virus, on any MLM spammer that responded with a BS marketing scheme. ) - -- Al Dykes - ----------- adykes@panix.com - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:13:15 -0400 From: "Judith Oppenheimer" Subject: 10/3/00 ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES ************************************************************************* from ICB Toll Free News - Daily News and Intelligence covering the Political, Legal and Marketing Arenas of 800 and Dot Com. ************************************************************************* CONTENTS - - ICANN: NEXUS OF DIVERSE AMBITIONS, guest editorial by Ted Byfield - - TLD GAMBIT: AUCTION FOR MOST STRINGENT TM PROTECTION? - - WHITE PAPER ON gTLD REGISTRY BEST PRACTICES - - IPC WANTS A PIECE OF TLD APPROVAL PROCESS - - THE ORIGINAL .WEB FILES ITS ICANN TLD APP - - ICANN CAN'T EVEN GET ELECTION RIGHT - - ICANN TAKE ON NEW TLD APPS: $2.2 MILLION ************************************************************************* !!! 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Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:19:53 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Tellme Nets $125 Million Investment Tellme Nets $125 Million Investment By Ben Hammer The voice-activated service provider says it will use the money to build a global network. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,19060,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:22:02 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: DoCoMo and AOL to Join in Japan DoCoMo and AOL to Join in Japan By Michele M. Yamada The cellular carrier would buy a 42.3 percent stake in AOL Japan, in a deal to integrate services. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18888,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:22:25 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: DoCoMo to Push i-mode Into Europe DoCoMo to Push i-mode Into Europe By Michele M. Yamada Japan's wireless leader plans a U.K. subsidiary and a research venture in Germany. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18994,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:22:54 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Exodus to Buy GlobalCenter for $6.5 Billion Exodus to Buy GlobalCenter for $6.5 Billion By George A. Chidi Jr. The deal would combine two of the world's largest providers of Internet hosting services. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18949,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:23:54 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served By Ben Hammer 24/7 Media says the dot-com squeeze has caused a huge surge in the number of messages it sends out. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18939,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:24:31 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Is Global Crossing the Anna Nicole Smith of Telcos? Is Global Crossing the Anna Nicole Smith of Telcos? http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18954,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 01:25:58 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Another Shakeup at T-Online Another Shakeup at T-Online Europe's biggest ISP loses another board member, the 3rd high-level defection in a month due to squabbling with Deutsche Telekom. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18907,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 03:16:35 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Verizon Wireless Digital Single Rate Verizon's First Integrated Offer Will Stimulate Voice and Web Access Anytime, Anywhere Phone Customers Get Free Web Access from Both Home and Wireless Phones With Wireless Digital Single RateSM Purchase October 2, 2000 NEW YORK -- With its first integrated consumer service offer, Verizon has linked the two hottest technologies - digital wireless service and the Internet -- in a promotional package designed to let its local residential customers in 21 states and the District of Columbia experience the "anything, anytime, anywhere" nature of modern communications. Between now and November 30, residential customers of many Verizon local telephone companies who purchase any Verizon digital calling plan worth $29.95 per month, or renew an existing plan from Verizon Wireless will receive free home Internet service and free Mobile Web access through Memorial Day. http://www.ba.com/proactive/newsroom/release.vtml?id=43388 - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ End of Telecom Digest V2000 #76 *******************************