Date: 2 Oct 2000 06:15:12 -0400 Message-ID: <20001002101512.13391.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com> From: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org (Telecom Digest) To: telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Subject: Telecom Digest V2000 #73 Reply-To: editor@telecom-digest.org Sender: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Errors-To: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 549c6294b0d77d4b038a7573ca1f1834 Status: RO X-Status: Telecom Digest Monday, October 2 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 073 In this issue: BellSouth + SBC = PEOPLECLIP ? Re: E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Telcordia And VeriSign Announce Agreement To Host Open Enum Trial Do not call - PrivateHarbor.com Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Oct 2000 10:06:42 -0400 From: "Brad Snyder" Subject: BellSouth + SBC = PEOPLECLIP ? As an employee of BellSouth, if the name of our new company is in fact PeopleClip, the stunned silence at the company meeting next week when the name is announced is going to be deafening! I have my doubts but, my hope is this is an elaborate misinformation campaign to throw us all off the trail of the real name (grin). bdsnyder@bellsouth.net - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 15:00:55 -0400 From: djb0x77371b0c@scream.org (Dan Birchall) Subject: Re: E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served Monty Solomon wrote: > E-Mail Marketing: Over 1 Billion Served > By Ben Hammer > 24/7 Media says the dot-com squeeze has caused a huge surge in the > number of messages it sends out. > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,18939,00.html Ah well, I suppose the same "logic" that overvalues companies that lose money year after year would tend to try to improve business by spamming... ;) [What? 24/7 aren't spammers, you say? Why, then, are they part of the new RECA group that's trying to promulgate worst-current-practices for e-mail marketing?] - -Dan (I think I've got some nominees for f*ckedcompany.com...) - -- Dan Birchall - Palolo Valley, Honolulu HI - http://dan.scream.org Post your reviews; get paid: http://epinions.scream.org/join.html Free web-based e-mail: http://www.themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1163079 My address expires - take out the hex stamp if your reply bounces - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 19:12:02 -0400 From: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws H. Peter Anvin wrote: >>In other words, you are thinking about something other than your driving, and >>that makes you a danger to those you share the right-of-way with. >Seriously, though: how does that differ from talking to someone else in the >car with you? It doesn't. A few months ago, there was a study of the mortality rates among teenagers driving other teenagers. They were quite high compared to teenagers driving by themselves. >Listening to the radio? That's supposed to keep you more alert. >Smoking (which is apparently enough of a distraction that some insurance >companies charge higher premiums for smokers -- not to mention the littering >problem)? Lighting a cigarette while driving is a terrible distraction, especially since people always turn their heads to do so. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 19:15:52 -0400 From: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws Gary Novosielski wrote: >Would singing along with the radio be outlawed? Can you carry a tune? >Or those CD players where you have to fumble with the discs? Arguably more >dangerous than cell-phones. No, that's comparable. >The point is, we already have laws about careless driving but they are >simply not enforced. What makes anyone believe a no-phone law would be? I wasn't arguing in favor of a law; Verizon was! But the law they were backing wouldn't reduce the number of collisions caused by distraction from cell phone use, so I was suspicious of their motives. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 19:28:37 -0400 From: Clarence Dold Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws H. Peter Anvin wrote: : Followup to: : By author: "Adam H. Kerman" : In newsgroup: comp.dcom.telecom :> :> >I can't speak for anyone else, but it's certainly easier for ME to keep my :> >concentration on the road and both hands on the wheel if using a handsfree :> >kit, and I have never bought one from a cellular carrier. :> :> Hands on the wheel, sure, but what does concentration on the road have to do :> with whether or not the car phone is hands free? You are still reacting to :> something that is being said and thinking about what to say in reply. :> :> In other words, you are thinking about something other than your driving, and :> that makes you a danger to those you share the right-of-way with. :> :> I know a lot of people sound like they speak without thinking, but that's not :> really true, is it? :> : Seriously, though: how does that differ from talking to someone else : in the car with you? Should we ban talking to people in the car, too? : Listening to the radio? Smoking (which is apparently enough of a : distraction that some insurance companies charge higher premiums for : smokers -- not to mention the littering problem)? : -hpa : -- : at work, in private! : "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." : http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt : -- : The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail : messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. - -- - --- Clarence A Dold - dold@rahul.net - San Jose & Pope Valley (Napa County) CA. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 21:10:48 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Telcordia And VeriSign Announce Agreement To Host Open Enum Trial http://www.verisign.com/press/2000/enum.html David Wright Edelman Public Relations Worldwide Phone: 650.429.2738 E-mail: David Wright Telcordia And VeriSign Announce Agreement To Host Open Enum Trial Companies invite service providers, applications developers and vendors to participate in trial to simplify networked communications Herndon, VA, September 26, 2000 - The proliferation of multiple networked devices and media poses major challenges for rapid personal and business communications. Recognizing market demand for the simplicity of one telephone number to communicate with multiple devices - such as e-mail, fax machines, cell phones and pagers -- communications software and solutions provider Telcordia Technologies, Inc. and VeriSign, Inc. (Nasdaq:VRSN), the leading provider of Internet trust services, today announced an agreement under which Telcordia and the VeriSign Global Registry Services division will jointly develop an ENUM directory and an open system trial based on the proposed ENUM standard. The trial system will be housed on the VeriSign Domain Name System (DNS) infrastructure that handles more than one billion domain name queries per day. The proposed ENUM standard, currently being considered by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), provides a framework for a global numbering system to map telephone numbers to other service addresses over the Internet. ENUM-based services would allow one telephone number to serve as a single point of contact for numerous communication media, from telephone to e-mail and from wireline to wireless. "The trial will bring us significantly closer to implementing a real-world ENUM model for consumers and businesses alike," said Richard Orriss, vice president and general manager of the Service Business and Management Group at Telcordia. "With ENUM fully realized, the business card of the future could list a single universal address, to which people could direct a phone call, an e-mail, a fax, or other communications. The result -- more efficient, simplified communication anywhere, around the globe." As the full scope and potential of ENUM functionality and consumer use will ultimately be defined through the development of independent applications, the companies are inviting service providers, applications developers, and vendors to participate in the trial which is scheduled to begin in late Q4 2000. "The domain name system provides the ideal housing for the ENUM trial," said Bruce Chovnick, general manager of VeriSign Global Registry Services. "We recognize the potential for the convergence of telephony and Internet communications and are pleased to be working with Telcordia toward the practical integration of the two technologies." The Trial System The ENUM project is the focal point of the convergence of the public switched telephone network (PSTN) and the Internet. Telcordia and VeriSign Global Registry Services together bring proven leadership in both of these domains. Telcordia provides leading-edge service management systems globally to administer and update numbers for toll-free and local number portability services. Every toll-free call in the U.S. depends on Telcordia software, which has processed billions of toll-free calls without service interruption. This robust service management platform will be used to provide similar capabilities for the trial system. The trial system will operate on the DNS infrastructure maintained by VeriSign Global Registry Services that handles the translation for more than 19 million domain names on the Internet, responding to more than one billion queries per day. Using this infrastructure will help result in rapid resolution of number-to-address mapping. Additionally, VeriSign is uniquely positioned as the leader in Internet security, which will play a critical role in ENUM-based services. The trial, which will utilize a gateway through the ENUM resource site www.enumworld.com, will allow users to develop and exercise their applications for functionality and compatibility with the ENUM standard. To learn more about how to participate in the trial, system developers and service providers can visit www.enumworld.com or e-mail information@enumworld.com. About VeriSign VeriSign, Inc. (Nasdaq:VRSN) is the leading provider of trusted infrastructure services to Web sites, enterprises, electronic commerce service providers and individuals. The company's domain name, digital certificate and payment services provide the critical web identity, authentication and transaction infrastructure that online businesses need to conduct secure e-commerce and communications. VeriSign's services are available through its websites (www.verisign.com and www.netsol.com) or through its direct sales force and reseller partners around the world. About VeriSign Global Registry Services VeriSign Global Registry Services (a division of Network Solutions, Inc., a wholly-owned subsidiary of VeriSign, Inc.) is the leading provider of Internet locator services. VeriSign Global Registry Services maintains the definitive directory of over 19 million web addresses and is responsible for the infrastructure that propagates this information throughout the Internet and responds to over 1.5 billion DNS look-ups daily. As the exclusive provider of registry services to .com, .net, and .org, VeriSign Global Registry currently supports 66 active ICANN accredited registrars operating in 17 countries around the globe. For more information, see the www.verisign-grs.com web site. About Telcordia Technologies, Inc. Telcordia Technologies, Inc., an SAIC company, is one of the world's largest providers of operations support systems, network software and consulting and engineering services to the telecommunications industry. The Telcordia software organization, comprised of Operations Support Systems and Service and Business Management Systems, has been ISO 9001-certified and has been assessed at Level 5, the highest level of the Capability Maturity Model̉, an industry standard for measuring software development processes that was developed by the Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mellon University. A leader in the development of Next Generation Network technologies, Telcordia employs more than 6,500 professionals and has revenues of more than $1.5 billion. Telcordia (www.telcordia.com) is headquartered in Morristown, New Jersey, US with offices throughout the United States, Europe, Central and South America and Asia Pacific. All rights reserved. VeriSign is a registered trademark of VeriSign, Inc. Statements in this announcement other than historical data and information constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in VeriSign's stock price, uncertainty of Internet privatization, increased competition in the domain name registration business including price competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company in addition to or as enhancements of its registration services, risks associated with the company's international business, uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results is included in VeriSign's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, especially in the company's Registration Statement on Form S-4 filed on April 12, 2000, as amended, Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 1999 and Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the period ended June 30, 2000. ### All rights reserved. VeriSign is a registered trademark exclusively licensed to VeriSign, Inc. VeriSign OnSite is a service mark of VeriSign, Inc. All other trademarks are properties of their respective owners. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Oct 2000 22:07:35 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Do not call - PrivateHarbor.com Excerpt from http://www.globe.com/dailyglobe2/275/business/Sticker_shock_zings_motorists_at_inspections+.shtml Do not call One man's annoying telemarketing call is another man's business opportunity. For $18.95 a year, Private Harbor Inc. (privateharbor.com) of Doylestown, Pa., is promising dinnertime solitude by placing customers on the do-not-call lists of more than 1,500 telemarketers. The three-week-old company says it takes about three months to get a customer's name on the lists, but after that all those dinnertime calls from AT&T, the Discover Card, and Time Magazine should disappear. If they don't, Private Harbor says it will help its customers sue the telemarketers. Not all telemarketing calls will disappear. Under federal law, telemarketers working for charitable organizations or conducting surveys are not required to maintain do-not-call lists. Consumers could add their name to the do-not-call lists themselves, by mailing requests to telemarketers or asking telemarketers who call them to add their name to the list. But Don Herr, chief executive at Private Harbor, said that would take years and hundreds of dollars of postage. ''This is more efficient,'' he said. The Cellucci administration filed privacy legislation this year that would have set up a state do-not-call list. Residents could have signed up free of charge and telemarketers would have been barred from calling anyone on the list. The legislation is currently being revamped and is expected to be refiled next year. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 2000 04:06:51 -0400 From: David Lind Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws In article <8r3jm7$8so$1@cesium.transmeta.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > Followup to: > By author: "Adam H. Kerman" > In newsgroup: comp.dcom.telecom > > > > >I can't speak for anyone else, but it's certainly easier for ME to keep my > > >concentration on the road and both hands on the wheel if using a handsfree > > >kit, and I have never bought one from a cellular carrier. > > > > Hands on the wheel, sure, but what does concentration on the road have to do > > with whether or not the car phone is hands free? You are still reacting to > > something that is being said and thinking about what to say in reply. > > > > In other words, you are thinking about something other than your driving, and > > that makes you a danger to those you share the right-of-way with. > > > > I know a lot of people sound like they speak without thinking, but that's not > > really true, is it? > > > > Seriously, though: how does that differ from talking to someone else > in the car with you? Should we ban talking to people in the car, too? > Listening to the radio? Smoking (which is apparently enough of a > distraction that some insurance companies charge higher premiums for > smokers -- not to mention the littering problem)? > I believe the majority of drinkers also smoke. I suspect this bit of info is factored into rates. -- David Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 2000 04:13:07 -0400 From: David Lind Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws In article , Monty Solomon wrote: > Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws > > CHICAGO -- Verizon, the largest U.S. cellular telephone provider, > said it broke with the industry Monday and agreed to support laws > that would ban handheld cell phone use while driving, a practice > blamed for deadly accidents. > > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39033,00.html > -- Here are a couple of links (papers) that may help to define the state of regulation for cellular use while driving in the US, as well as international regulations. In all fairness, more statistics (deaths) appear to be required to move legislation forwards. Lawsuits against policy holders, business that require employees to use cellphones, and others, may also have more immediate influence. Warning: Using a Cellular Phone While You Drive May Be Hazardous Address:http://www.lib.utah.edu/epubs/hinckley/v2/jackman.htm Investigation of the Use of Cellular Phones while Driving Address:http://www.cutr.eng.usf.edu/its/mobile_phone_text.htm - -- David Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Oct 2000 04:39:36 -0400 From: David Lind Subject: Re: Verizon Backs No-Call Drive Laws In article , "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > Gary Novosielski wrote: > > >Would singing along with the radio be outlawed? > > Can you carry a tune? > > >Or those CD players where you have to fumble with the discs? Arguably more > >dangerous than cell-phones. > > No, that's comparable. > > >The point is, we already have laws about careless driving but they are > >simply not enforced. What makes anyone believe a no-phone law would be? > > I wasn't arguing in favor of a law; Verizon was! But the law they were backing > wouldn't reduce the number of collisions caused by distraction from cell phone > use, so I was suspicious of their motives. > It's all about time (airtime) and money. Your suspicions are well founded. Verizon has seen the writing on the wall and because of Illinois unique, no headset law, they stand to lose most vehicle call revenue if a ban on handhelds goes through. A bit of self serving shuffle.    "Verizon supports cell phone ban CHICAGO, Sept. 25 – The city's traffic committee today took up the issue of banning hand-held phones while driving, and in a surprise move, a major mobile phone company announced it will support the ban if the city would work with the company to lobby for the repeal of a statewide ban on the use of earphones while driving."   Verizon supports cell phone ban Address:http://www.msnbc.com/local/WMAQ/53706.asp - -- David Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ End of Telecom Digest V2000 #73 *******************************