Date: 30 Aug 2000 06:15:11 -0400 Message-ID: <20000830101511.17755.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com> From: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org (Telecom Digest) To: telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Subject: Telecom Digest V2000 #38 Reply-To: editor@telecom-digest.org Sender: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Errors-To: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 0ceb65f6776d6b9bf02bd221bc9676a5 Status: RO X-Status: Telecom Digest Wednesday, August 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 038 In this issue: Re: NYTimes.com Article: What City, Please? Vexation in Dialing Can Start With 411 Re: ISDN and Billing 101 Boat Anchor Re: Cannot change my long distance provider? Voice Frequency Repeaters Re: ISDN and Billing Akamai anti-censorship trick still working Make Your E-Mail Disappear Re: Cannot change my long distance provider? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Aug 2000 09:51:18 -0400 From: 73115.1041@compuserve.com Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: What City, Please? Vexation in Dialing Can Start With 411 Paul Hrisko wrote: >Either way, I needed to check a movie time last week and put a 411 call in >to get the theater listing. The woman on the other end asked me what >theater I was looking for, then what movie I wanted to see. She floored me >by giving me the listed times, then asking if there were other movies I >wanted to check because the closest showtime was only 15 min. away. I was a >few blocks form the theater so I was fine. She thanked me, then hung up. I had something similar happen while roaming in Seattle two weeks ago. I called 411 and asked for the number of a local, well known restaurant. The operator asked if I'd like her to make the reservations, took the relevant data and said someone would call me back in 30 minutes. 15 minutes later someone from "concierge services" called me back. I was so surprised I never asked if this was an extra charge service. I guess I'll see when the bill shows up. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 09:53:07 -0400 From: "Wineburgh, Joseph \(Exchange\)" Subject: Re: ISDN and Billing I'm not clear on what you're looking for either. Sounds like you want 100 DSL lines? Is that right? And 1,000 DID numbers? Running to where? PBX? VOIP box? FX to Norway? A bit more detail, please. #JOE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Aug 2000 15:30:54 -0400 From: "Gunnar Liknes" Subject: ISDN and Billing Hello, We are looking for a company in the US which can deliver 100 digital subscriber lines to a location in Florida. We also need 1000 numbers and a billing solution enabling us to charge 10-15USD per minute on inncomming calls. I have tried AT&T, Bell south and MCI but I just get put trough to a lot of people who doesnt understand what I want. *********************************************************************** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *********************************************************************** - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 10:44:38 -0400 From: jsw@ivgate.omahug.org Subject: 101 Boat Anchor >>The Bell System introduced 101ESS as a PBX switch about the same time as >>1ESS for central offices. I gather it was pretty unsuccessful and >>disappeared; but can anyone fill in the details? >I can't, but I did hear some stories. I heard it referred to as "the Edsel of >the Bell System". Kludgey, with an ancient CPU (well, it was designed in 1963 >or so) shared among a number of remotes. Each remote used analog time division >(PAM, later used in the Dimension PBXs). New York Tel had a few in service, >but I don't know who else did, and I doubt they lasted a decade. Coincidentally there was a recent thread in one of the local groups about the 101. My former employer's offices were 'served' by this all-electronic answer to the panel switch. ;-) This one lasted until the early 80's when it was replaced with Centrex-CO from a 1A. Even though 1200bps modems were around, they would simply refuse to connect through this switch. A distinct buzz could be heard softly in the background of most conversations. Most funky feature was the ring cadence. First ring was always very long, with subsequent rings being normal cadence. We joked about them using a 555 timer to generate the cadence, since it was not unlike the long first cycle of a 555 astasble being powered up. The switch was supposed to have such things as 3-way calling, but trying to use them would almost always result in a disconnect. I seriously doubt if there are any of those left in commercial service. Good day JSW - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 12:39:30 -0400 From: Hugh Pritchard Subject: Re: Cannot change my long distance provider? Joseph Singer writes, >I recommend that you go to and read up on >the different 'dialaround' carriers such as Telecom USA's 1010220 or >1010321. There are some gotcha's in there if you're not careful. Note that Telecom USA was bought by MCI several years ago. And MCI was bought by WorldCom last year. For a time, some adjunct processing (billing) for 1010-321 was done in one of the data centers in my MCI (now WorldCom) building. Lesson: Under the covers, you may be REALLY surprised! Hugh Pritchard - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 14:00:05 -0400 From: "Paul Cook" Subject: Voice Frequency Repeaters Does anyone have any recommendations for voice frequency repeaters, perhaps similar to the old Lorain or R-Tec amplifiers? I need these to boost the audio in some DISA (Direct Inward System Access) circuits. A DISA box has a line ring into it, the caller dials a code, and is hooked to an outgoing line where he gets dial tone and can dial forward. Sometimes the loss on these two POTS lines is enough that when they are combined through the DISA box, they need a little boost. I've got some brochures on some Wilcom telephone line treatment equipment, but these units look like they are set automatically by dialing into a 1KHz test tone, and calibrated so that the individual line meets some spec. This wouldn't work for us, because we need to manually compensate for the combined loss of the two lines. Any suggestions? Paul Cook - Applications Engineer pcook@proctorinc.com 425-881-7000, ext 566 Proctor & Associates 15305 NE 95 St Redmond WA 98052-2517 www.proctorinc.com - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 18:04:34 -0400 From: "Gunnar Liknes" Subject: Re: ISDN and Billing "Wineburgh, Joseph (Exchange)" wrote > I'm not clear on what you're looking for either. > > Sounds like you want 100 DSL lines? Is that right? > > And 1,000 DID numbers? Running to where? PBX? VOIP box? FX to Norway? > > A bit more detail, please. We need 4x ISDN PRI or similar terminated in a Cisco 5300. I have got some very interresting offline replies to my post, so I think I may be helped. Gunnar - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 18:31:31 -0400 From: Bennett Haselton Subject: Akamai anti-censorship trick still working [sent to journalists on Peacefire's press contacts list] A week ago when we announced the Akamai method for getting around blocking software, at http://www.peacefire.org/bypass/Proxy/akamai.html an Akamai public relations officer was quoted as saying, "Akamai has a lot of mechanisms in our system that would render this approach ineffective immediately." In case anyone saw that quote a week ago and thought that this would be short-lived, we are happy to report that the trick is still working: http://a1.g.akamaitech.net/6/6/6/6/www.yahoo.com/ In fact, in one CNet story, Akamai and the censorware industry are both blaming each other for the problem: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2586200.html >>> "We don't commit to filtering," said George Kurian, Akamai's vice president of product management. "The filtering companies need to fix it." >>> [...] >>> "We have talked to Akamai about this and have not gotten a response," said Kevin Fink, chief technology officer at N2H2. "We discovered this quite some time ago, but I don't think they did anything about it." >>> so the bug will probably not get fixed any time soon. This is reminiscent of the situation surrounding the "Local JavaScript" browser security hole that Peacefire released in May: http://www.peacefire.org/security/localjs/ The bug allows a malicious Web site to steal passwords from your computer, simply by getting you to view a remote Web page using Internet Explorer. But according to quotes at http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1820959.html , both Netscape and Microsoft said the bug was the other company's fault and they weren't going to do anything about it. With all the hype surrounding fairly minor browser security holes that get fixed within three days, this is actually one of the most serious holes ever discovered, and it still hasn't been fixed after four months for political reasons. -Bennett bennett@peacefire.org http://www.peacefire.org (425) 649 9024 - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 2000 22:27:02 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Make Your E-Mail Disappear Make Your E-Mail Disappear Disappearing's free Outlook plug-in lets you send encrypted messages that become unreadable after time. http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,18135,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2000 00:32:05 -0400 From: David Lind Subject: Re: Cannot change my long distance provider? In article <8oe1kd$ddf$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, joemitchellsc@yahoo.com wrote: > I don't know if this is the right ng, but here goes: I called my local > phone provider this morning and requested that they change my long > distance provider. The person I spoke with politely told me that "with > SimCom, you cannot change your long distance provider". Is this > possible? > > If this is true, I'm thinking about using 10-10-220 (or similiar codes) > to get around my local provider. Any hidden charges (connection fees) > that I should be aware of? > I couldn't find a CLEC (competing local exchange carrier) named SimCom. What state are you in? Is there an option to sign up with some other local carrier? If you were talking about Suncom, a wireless carrier in the south east, then the question and reply would make more sense. In the case of a wireless provider you would then use a calling card to bypass their long distance service. -- David Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ End of Telecom Digest V2000 #38 *******************************