Date: 25 Aug 2000 06:15:10 -0400 Message-ID: <20000825101510.11706.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com> From: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org (Telecom Digest) To: telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Subject: Telecom Digest V2000 #32 Reply-To: editor@telecom-digest.org Sender: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Errors-To: owner-telecom-digest@telecom-digest.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: b36473e14f08a1e3e6df7c9239b11933 Status: RO X-Status: Telecom Digest Friday, August 25 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 032 In this issue: Is Private Citizen a good service? Re: bad mobile service (was So now I'm a Telus customer again) FCC database Re: AT&T's contribution to network radio Re: Wired News : New Toys for Cheating Students Look Out Below! Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio 8/24/00 ICBTollFree.Com HEADS UP HEADLINES Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio Private Phone Records on Web Update: Verizon Hole still Open Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio Critical Path Working on Critical Patch Pretty Good Privacy Not Good Enough Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Aug 2000 09:45:01 -0400 From: mrosen@ex-pressnet.com Subject: Is Private Citizen a good service? Is it worth the $20 membership to join Private Citizen? Has anybody used them who can vouch for their success? Thanks, Mike Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 11:33:21 -0400 From: "Joey Lindstrom" Subject: Re: bad mobile service (was So now I'm a Telus customer again) On 24 Aug 2000 06:15:22 -0400, Joseph Singer wrote: >22 Aug 2000 09:33:57 -0400 "Joey Lindstrom" wrote: > >>And now I discover this morning that, thanks to a $6.6 billion >>takeover, my Clearnet cellphone service is now brought to me by the >>friendly (HAH!) folks at Telus. Instead of four cell alternatives, I >>suddenly have only three. And worse yet: Telus now owns both of the >>providers that use the superior CDMA technology, so if I switch to >>either Rogers or Fido, I've gotta change to one of those crappy TDMA >>phones. > >Before you start bashing mobile standards such as TDMA for the perceived >"bestness" of CDMA which others have differing opinion consider that Fido >a/k/a Microcell uses the GSM standard for mobile telephony. If you'll >check what mobile standard is the *most* used in the world > you'll probably find that besides analog >AMPS that the most widely deployed mobile telephone standard is in fact >GSM. If we're going to totally look at it the GSM standard is a variation >on TDMA technology. That said, I don't think mobile telephony companies >such as Sprint or AT&T would deploy a technology that was inferior. They >wouldn't have any customers. The truth about wireless technlogies is that >for certain situations one might work better than others. Many factors >influence how well a certain type of phone will act in certain situations. >A blanket statement that a certain service is crap is not at all a fair >assessment. My diatribe was about a specific company, buying out the competition. But my comments about phone service were meant to be specific to the Calgary area - if this was unclear, then my apologies. We have four cell carriers here (five if you count "Mike", but that's part of the Clearnet network and uses the same system for the most part): Rogers (TDMA and analog) Fido (TDMA [GSM]) Telus Mobility (CDMA and analog) Clearnet (CDMA) In the Calgary area, at least, I can and will make a blanket statement that TDMA service sucks, because... well, because it DOES suck. I have used all four of these networks. Telus and Clearnet provide reliable digital service that rarely drops calls (my Clearnet phone has dropped four calls in 10 months, and three times in the exact same spot - I've learned to avoid that particular spot) and doesn't miss incoming calls. Sound quality is superb, even when on the fringes of the service area. Rogers and Fido offer garbage service. I average about an 80% call reception rate with them, with the remaining 20% of my calls going to voicemail - not a good thing if you are on-call. Sound quality is uniformly terrible even if you're standing next to a cell tower. And my duration record for a phone call on either of them is 18 minutes - I've never been able to hold a conversation longer than that without the call mysteriously dropping (even when standing perfectly still, in a high-signal area, for those 18 minutes). Ask Mark Cuccia about our phone conversations from a couple of years ago, and how often he'd have to redial me during ONE conversation. These are my personal experiences. In my job, however, I deal with the general public and I've yet to find ANYBODY who, when the topic of either Rogers or Fido comes up, won't go off on a rant about how crappy they are. Actually, that's not true: there are some who don't rant. Those are the people who've never had Rogers or Fido service. Furthermore, unless I've misread the folks in this forum, the majority here believe that CDMA is superior to TDMA, so at least some of what I've said must hold true outside of the Calgary area. And as for your statements about which mobile phone standard is the most used worldwide, consider this: Windows is the most used operating system worldwide and a lot of people buy new computers with Windows preinstalled for that very reason. This does not change the fact that it's a shitty operating system. Ask most technical people about the merits of Windows versus, say, Linux. If 500 million people are using a shitty operating system, it's STILL a shitty operating system. I repeat, however: I was speaking of the Calgary area. The vast majority of cellphone customers here will agree with the opinions I've expressed on cellphone service here, although I'm certain that Rogers and Fido have a few defenders (and, similarly, Telus and Clearnet have their detractors). As for GSM... y'know, I hear a lot about how great GSM is, how it's this and that, how it's the "world standard", etc. Bottom line for me is that, outside of a week or two on vacation yearly, I spend my time in Canada, not England or France or Russia or Outer Mongolia. I don't give a rat's ass about how popular GSM is elsewhere in the world. I only care about *MY* phone working where *I* intend to use it. To paraphrase Denis Leary, GSM advocates can go off and hold a great big GSM cakewalk down the middle of Tianenmen Square for all I care ("because we got the bombs!"): it means *NOTHING* here in downtown Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Well, downtown Calgary does have a GSM provider. And they, Fido, offer terrible service. That's about as far as GSM affects me. Bottom line: TDMA is inferior, old technology. CDMA is superior, new technology. Why on EARTH did they decide to use TDMA as part of the GSM standard? Hey, try this: hop in your car and bring along a blank cassette tape. Put the cassette tape in your tape deck and press play. Then crank up the volume (so that you can hear a fair amount of tape hiss). Now, place a call to somebody on your TDMA phone. After a minute or two, try moving your phone around the interior of your car, moving it closer and further away from the speakers and the tape deck. Fun, eh? What's that? You can't hear me above the loud buzzing noise coming from your speakers? Golly, now THERE'S a surprise... Anyways, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. (tm) / From the messy desktop of Joey Lindstrom / Visit The NuServer! http://www.GaryNumanFan.NU / Visit The Webb! http://webb.GaryNumanFan.NU / / When I was little, my grandfather used to make me stand in a closet for / five minutes without moving. He said it was elevator practice. / --Steven Wright ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 13:34:16 -0400 From: "McNicol, John" Subject: FCC database I tried to access the FCC FM database via the link on airwaves.iecc.com but "the file could not be located"..any idea of what the problem may be? - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 14:03:57 -0400 From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Re: AT&T's contribution to network radio Frank Messere wrote: > Hi: > I'm researching AT&T's contribution to network radio after it sold WEAF > to RCA. I'm particularly interesting in any interesting stories about > heroic efforts by AT&T to help out radio broadcasters, little known > facts, etc. > I'm writing a peice for the Encyclopedia of Radio and I'd appreciate > any help you could give me. > thanks, > Fritz Messere Well, there was the NBC (Red) Radio Network program, mostly of classical music sponsored by AT&T called "The Bell Telephone Hour" (aka "Telephone Time")! :-) And I think that there was a live dramatic program on NBC-Television also called "The Bell Telephone Hour"... But seriously -- NBC, CBS, Mutual, ABC and DuMont were _BIG_ customers of AT&T/The Bell System, for leasing all of those telco-owned lines and circuits to distribute network radio/TV, so Telco made sure that these lines were in the best operating order -- and also telco frequently has to supply ad-hoc circuits to the radio/TV industry for remote pick-ups, whether for "local" programs, or national network programs, such as breaking news coverage, political party conventions, etc. I do remember that an AT&T Long Lines retiree recently told me (and he started with Long Lines in 1952) that at major AT&T centers around the country where the radio and television network feeds were controlled, in the OVERNIGHT period (back then, the networks weren't usually feeding programs on a 24-hour basis), to make sure that the lines were in operational order for the early morning 15-minute newscasts (CBS World News Roundup, NBC News of the World, ABC News Around the World, Mutual's 15-min morning newscast and I can't really remember its "catchy" title right now), AT&T would feed music and programming of interest to telephone company employees down the CBS/NBC/Mutual/ABC lines. Testmen/techs and even Operators, particularly in slow parts of the overnight, would frequently listen in to these AT&T-fed music/news programs over the AT&T-owned lines used for the radio networks. If there were a "break" in the line somewhere, or a circuit or equalizer/ amplifier went down somewhere, there would have been SOME form of program being fed in the overnight hours, that would be interrupted, and telco techs could try to trace the source of the outage and try to either have it repaired, or the feeds re-routed, so that when the local radio affiliates signed on in the morning (many radio stations signed off at midnight back then, although there were some 24-hour stations too), and then opened up their "pot" to CBS/NBC/Mutual/ABC, they could get the program feeds, without even knowing that things had to be re-routed or fixed -- i.e., that there had been some problem overnight that was corrected. You couldn't have CBS affiliates signing on in the mornings expecting "Arthur Godfrey Time" and not receiving it... or ABC affiliates not getting "Don McNeil's Breakfast Club", or NBC stations not getting "NBC Bandstand", or Mutual stations not getting their morning news and entertainment programs... the sponsors were paying the ad agencies, who were buying from the network sales departments -- and then the networks paying big bucks as well - to AT&T. Back then, AT&T made sure that QUALITY and SERVICE to their customers was VERY important! MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Cl.5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-) to become a #5ESS (yeah!), NWORLASKDS0, 12:01am SAT-11-NOV-2000 NWORLAIYCM3 (BellSouth-Mobility Ericsson Cellular-MTSO NOL) NWORLAMT01T (BellSouth DMS-100 "Metairie" Tndm; Cellular routes thru) NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 inTRA-LATA/fg.BCD Tndm "Main" 504+) NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:inLATA OprSvcTndm "Main" 504+053+) NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+) JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121) JCSNMSPS14T (AT&T #4ESS Class-3 Toll 040-T / 601-2T; OSPS routes thru) NWORLAELH01 (PBX NEC-2400 504-862-3/8xxx, 504-865-4/5/6xxx) NWORLACADS0 (BellSo.DMS-100 Cl.5 Lcl "Carrollton" 504-86x-;PBX 'homes' on) - --------------------------------------------- - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 15:53:01 -0400 From: ledogge@yahoo.com (Kasper) Subject: Re: Wired News : New Toys for Cheating Students On 18 Aug 2000 22:05:58 -0400, itsamike@yahoo.com (Mike Pollock) wrote: >But students beware. Teachers know what's going on, and are developing >strategies to thwart them. > >Teachers in secondary education are banning handheld devices in >classrooms, including pagers. College professors, too, are becoming >ever more educated and vigilant. > >Most wireless industry experts, however, predict that someday teachers >in secondary and higher education will administer tests on PDAs, >formatting them so that every student has a different set of >questions. Imagine how upset you'd be if the answer you received from >your friend corresponded to a completely different question. Oh man ... do you realize this technology may blow the concept of standardized testing out the window (College Boards, GMAT, LSAT, GRE, etc) Separate tests also raise a fairness issue unless the professor is going to give a lot of partical credit and that means way more work than just looking at final answers with a scoring guide. Kasper - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 16:40:40 -0400 From: "Michael A. Desmon" Subject: Look Out Below! Look Out Below! As telecom companies rush to wire Kansas City, city workers rush to clean up the mess. http://www.pitch.com/issues/2000-08-24/news.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 22:13:49 -0400 From: Mark J Cuccia Subject: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio Re, Frank Messere request about Telco and network radio -- here's another AT&T contribution - to RCA/NBC (Monitor and News-on-the-Hour): >>From 1955-75 (actually just short of twenty years), the NBC Radio Network had a "long-form" weekend "magazine" type program called MONITOR. Many "old timers" (and I'm only 39) remember hearing MONITOR all weekend long on our local NBC Radio Network affiliate (my parents listed mostly to WSMB-1350 ABC/Entertainment Network incl. Paul Harvey, and WDSU-1280 NBC Radio Network, while I was growing up in the 1960's and 70's)... One of the most MEMORABLE things about MONITOR on NBC Radio was its unique electronic jingle... played before and after every network commercial break, as well as to open every new segment (or close every segment) of Monitor before local station breaks... I can remember hearing the voice of "communicators" (anchors) Hugh Downs, Ed MacMahon, (the late) Gene Rayburn, Arlene Francis, etc. saying somthing like: "We're going to pause for a few minutes for your local stations - but reminding you that you're on the Monitor Beacon" [Bloop - BLOOP - BLUPE - BLIP - bloop], etc. (followed by a staff announcer, "This is the NBC Radio Network", and then the NBC chimes, bong-bing-bung) The unique "Monitor Beacon" or "Monitor Beeper" as it was sometimes called was a series of MULTI-FREQUENCY tones (dual tones), similar to - but NOT "identical" to - telephone touchtones. I'd read in back-issues of BROADCASTING magazine (from 1955) in an article on the new NBC Radio "Monitor" program, that AT&T (The Bell System) had DONATED to RCA/NBC, a reel of tape of its toll network signaling tones, the multifrequency tones used to indicate routing digits between toll and tandem switches. AT&T wanted it used as "publicity" for its increased use of automation in providing long distance service. RCA/NBC engineers then produced a composite of the tones played at normal speed, at half-speed, and at double-speed, to create the unique MONITOR "beacon" beeper jingle! What is ironic is that some ten or fifteen years later (late 60's and early 1970's), college kids were committing toll fraud with Blue Boxes, to make "free" long distance calls with devices that produced these MF tones! Of course, there was another tone (the 2600 Hz "chirp" tone) that the blue-boxers used, but the Monitor Beacon jingle didn't include the single-frequence 2600 "chirp" nor any derivative of it. Actually, the Monitor Beacon tones were JUST the "decimal" digit (1 thru 9 and 0) tones used in telephone network signaling of dialed or routing digits in the toll network, and didn't even include the "ST" and "KP" signal tones. Another NBC "jingle" or "sounder" from the mid-1950's to the early-1970's that "could" be said to be telephone influenced was the NBC News jingle used at that time. You'd hear this "sounder" on NBC Television newscasts (such as Edwin Newman's 5-min newscast M-F at 12:55pm Eastern right after the 25-min game show "Eye Guess"; or frequently on Huntley-Brinkley's NBC Nightly News), as well as on the NBC Radio Network's News-on-the-Hour (weekdays only, because on Sat/Sun, the hourly NBC Radio newscasts used the MONITOR beacon sounder)... This particular "sounder" or "jingle" was that of a Wirephoto (fax) modem of the time. I don't know if AT&T/Bell-Labs developed the standards for wirephoto modems, or maybe if it were Western Union Telegraph, or maybe RCA or ITT or some other similar telecommunications company, though. But the NBC News "sounder" of the mid-50's thru early-70's did use that wirephoto modem "whistle" with a tympani beat thrown in: [700-hz tone at the top of the hour] [whistling wirephoto modem sounder with tympani] announcer: "NBC Radio, News-on-the-Hour, brought to you by Winston Filters. Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should. Now here's Irving R. Levine reporting, NBC News" [sounder fades, Levine starts reading that 5-min NBC Radio newscast that he's anchoring]. Monitor, and News-on-the-Hour -- both unique features of NBC Radio, a service of RCA! [I can now hear the NBC chimes playing in the background!] MARK_J._CUCCIA__PHONE/WRITE/WIRE/CABLE:__HOME:__(USA)__Tel:_CHestnut-1-2497 WORK:__mcuccia@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu|4710-Wright-Road|__(+1-504-241-2497) Tel:UNiversity-5-5954(+1-504-865-5954)|New-Orleans-28__|fwds-on-no-answr-to Fax:UNiversity-5-5917(+1-504-865-5917)|Louisiana(70128)|cellular/voicemail- NWORLASKCG0 (BellSouth #1AESS Cl.5 Local "Seabrook" 504-24x-) to become a #5ESS (yeah!), NWORLASKDS0, 12:01am SAT-11-NOV-2000 NWORLAIYCM3 (BellSouth-Mobility Ericsson Cellular-MTSO NOL) NWORLAMT01T (BellSouth DMS-100 "Metairie" Tndm; Cellular routes thru) NWORLAMA0GT (BellSouth DMS-100/200 inTRA-LATA/fg.BCD Tndm "Main" 504+) NWORLAMA20T (BellSouth DMS-200 TOPS:inLATA OprSvcTndm "Main" 504+053+) NWORLAMA04T (AT&T #4ESS Class-2 Toll 060-T / 504-2T "Main" 504+) JCSNMSPS06T (AT&T #5ESS OSPS:Operator-Services-Tandem 601-0T 601+121) JCSNMSPS14T (AT&T #4ESS Class-3 Toll 040-T / 601-2T; OSPS routes thru) NWORLAELH01 (PBX NEC-2400 504-862-3/8xxx, 504-865-4/5/6xxx) NWORLACADS0 (BellSo.DMS-100 Cl.5 Lcl "Carrollton" 504-86x-;PBX 'homes' on) =================================================================== - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. 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All rights reserved. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 23:02:43 -0400 From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) Subject: Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio In Mark J Cuccia writes: [snip] >(followed by a staff announcer, "This is the NBC Radio Network", and then >the NBC chimes, bong-bing-bung) and, just as a reminder, the NBC chimes are the musical notes... G - E - C yes, yung'uns. Once upon a time the National Broadcasting Corporation was owned, in part, by the Generel Electric Company. However, due to anti-trust action by the US gov't, they were forced to split apart. danny 'until recently, of course' burstein - -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 23:35:07 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Private Phone Records on Web Private Phone Records on Web Managers at the largest regional telco pulled an all-nighter Sunday to take down a service that had undocumented features, and unlisted phone numbers. By Kevin Poulsen August 14, 2000 2:45 AM PT Verizon's twenty-eight million residential and business telephone subscribers from Maine to Virginia had portions of their private telephone records exposed on a company web site, SecurityFocus has learned. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/74 - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 23:35:11 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Update: Verizon Hole still Open Update: Verizon Hole still Open Managers at the largest regional telco pulled an all-nighter Sunday to fix a web application that allowed access to customer records. Today it's harder to find, but still up. By Kevin Poulsen August 14, 2000 1:49 PM PT Verizon's twenty-eight million residential and business telephone subscribers from Maine to Virginia continue to have portions of their private telephone records exposed on a company web site. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/75 - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 2000 23:57:09 -0400 From: scsmediafmp@aol.com (Steven Scharf) Subject: Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio What are you smoking. NBC is still a wholly owned subsidary of General Electic and has been since RCA was sold to them in 1986. What you may be confusing is that RCA created both NBC and ABC as the Blue and Red networks. They were forced to give up one of those networks (don't know when, late 30s maybe). They sold the Red network which became ABC. Steven Scharf SCS Media Services 57 East 11th Street, 9th Floor New York, New York 10003 212-822-8555 201-547-3510 Direct Phone and Fax (Please call first before faxing) SCSMedia@aol.com dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) commented: and, just as a reminder, the NBC chimes are the musical notes... G - E - C yes, yung'uns. Once upon a time the National Broadcasting Corporation was owned, in part, by the Generel Electric Company. However, due to anti-trust action by the US gov't, they were forced to split apart. danny 'until recently, of course' burstein Mark J Cuccia writes: [snip] >(followed by a staff announcer, "This is the NBC Radio Network", and then >the NBC chimes, bong-bing-bung) - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 2000 00:08:05 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Critical Path Working on Critical Patch Critical Path Working on Critical Patch A flaw found in the firm's Web e-mail service could allow hackers to take over an account. By Elinor Abreu E-mail hosting provider Critical Path is working on a patch for a security hole discovered last month that could be used by a malicious Web site to take over customer e-mail accounts, read and delete e-mail, and impersonate a computer user via his or her e-mail. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/1,1151,17933,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 2000 00:32:58 -0400 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Pretty Good Privacy Not Good Enough August 24, 2000 Pretty Good Privacy Not Good Enough A flaw found in PGP software could allow someone to read another person's encrypted e-mail. By Elinor Abreu UPDATE A German researcher has discovered a major security flaw in the latest versions of the PGP free e-mail encryption software that could allow someone to read another person's encrypted e-mail if he or she was able to intercept it. The problem arises from a feature that Network Associates added to PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) which allows for the recovery of data in encrypted messages. http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/1,1151,17978,00.html - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. Please mail messages to editor@telecom-digest.org. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Aug 2000 00:47:15 -0400 From: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Subject: Re: Another one of AT&T's contribution to network radio In article , Mark J Cuccia wrote: >Re, Frank Messere request about Telco and network >radio -- here's another AT&T contribution - to RCA/NBC A much larger and more import connection: AT&T was an important early radio station operator. They had this notion that people would pay money for a few minutes of broadcast time to deliver a message -- called it ``toll broadcasting'', first implemented on WBAY, ``the telephone booth of the air'', in New York City. RCA was formed in 1919 when General Electric purchased American Marconi from its British parent company, with the help of the U.S. Navy. The following year, AT&T exchanged its broadcasting assets, including WEAF in New York, for a stake in RCA. WEAF would later become WNBC, the flagship of the National Broadcasting Company's Red Network, then WRCA, then WNBC again, and is now WFAN and owned by CBS, erm, make that Viacom. One of the other RCA partners, Westinghouse, originally owned WJZ, the flagship station of the NBC Blue Network; that station would later become the second WABC [1] and is now owned by Disney, but Westinghouse itself later merged with CBS and spun off its non-broadcasting assets. GE was required to separate from RCA (but not NBC) fairly early on, for anti-trust reasons, and developed its own radio (and later television) business. When GE much later purchased RCA outright, it sold all of the radio stations to various other companies (including in one case Westinghouse); GE also sold both RCA's and its own consumer-electronics business to the French company Thomson, and RCA's music business to Germany's Bertelsmann -- the only significant RCA asset kept by GE was the NBC Television Network and its owned-and-operated stations. The NBC Radio Network was sold to Westwood One, which is partially owned and managed by CBS subsidiary Infinity. (There it was later merged with Mutual and more recently CBS's radio network operations.) - -GAWollman [1] The first WABC was the antecedent of today's WCBS. - -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick - -- The Telecom Digest is currently robomoderated. 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