Return-Path: Received: by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/NSCS-1.0S) id JAA29012; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:26:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:26:12 -0500 (EST) From: editor@telecom-digest.org Message-Id: <199710281426.JAA29012@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson Subject: TELECOM Digest V17 #294 TELECOM Digest Tue, 28 Oct 97 09:26:00 EST Volume 17 : Issue 294 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Linc Madison) Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes (Chris Farrar) Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Dave Stott) Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification (Rich Greenberg) Re: Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms (Tony Pelliccio) Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Barry F. Margolius) Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? (Dave Close) Re: Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC (Toby Stidham) Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? (Rich Courtney) Employment Opportunity: ACD Manager Needed (unicomp@onramp.net) Quick Question Regarding a Recent Post (Bob Collie) More on Compuserve Spam (Mike Pollock) Re: Help! Interface Error With ZyXel U-1496 (Doug Rorem) Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today (Linc Madison) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request@telecom-digest.org * The Digest is edited, published and compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson of Skokie, Illinois USA. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Telecom@LincMad.NOSPAM (Linc Madison) Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:47:28 -0800 Organization: LincMad Consulting; change NOSPAM to COM In article , Jeff Smith wrote: > Bell Canada is set to annouce 4 new area codes for the GTA. (New > Metro Toronto). > 1. Durham Region - will move to a new area code > 2. Peel & Halton - will move to a new area code > (these regions will share area code until split is needed) > 3. York - will retain the current 905 area code > - the rest of 905 not in the GTA will move to a new area code. > 4. (new) Toronto - will either get an overlay or a split of > the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a > seperate area code. > By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities. > Namely: 1. City of Toronto > 2. City of Durham > 3. City of Peel > 4. City of York > 5. City of Halton > > People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the > regions ready now! This is almost certainly incorrect. First of all, there is no "City of Durham" in Toronto. Durham, Ontario, is a town north of Kitchener, in the 519 area code. "Metro Toronto" consists of the City of Toronto, York, East York, North York, Etobicoke, and Scarborough. Those six cities currently share area code 416. The same six cities are being proposed for merger into "Megacity Toronto." More importantly, York is not currently in 905, so it is absolutely NOT going to be moved into 905 to the exclusion of all current 905 communities. No way, no how. York is currently in 416. Lastly, there is no way that Bell Canada could possibly get NANPA approval for four new area codes at once for the Toronto region, especially if you are talking (as you appear to be) only about the area that is currently in 416. Relief proposals for 416 have focused along two principal alternatives: (A) geographic split, probably along Yonge Street (B) all-services overlay of 416 ** Do not spam e-mail me! ** Linc Madison * San Francisco, California * Telecom@LincMad-com >> NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com" << ------------------------------ From: Chris Farrar Subject: Re: Bell Canada Set to Announce New Area Codes Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:08:16 -0500 Organization: Sympatico Reply-To: cfarrar@sympatico.ca Jeff Smith wrote: > 4. (new) Toronto - will either get an overlay or a split of > the current area code or maybe wireless services to move to a > seperate area code. The {Toronto Star} announced some time ago that the new (second) area code for Toronto will be in the form of an overlay. > By 2002 the GTA - will be called Metro will compose of Five Cities. > Namely: 1. City of Toronto > 2. City of Durham > 3. City of Peel ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hazel McAllion of Mississauga isn't going to like that, unless of course, she gets to be mayor of it. > 4. City of York > 5. City of Halton > People are saying Bell has applied for more area codes to get the > regions ready now! Chris Farrar | cfarrar@sympatico.ca | Amateur Radio, a VE3CFX | fax +1-905-457-8236 | national resource PGPkey Fingerprint = 3B 64 28 7A 8C F8 4E 71 AE E8 85 31 35 B9 44 B2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:48:24 -0500 From: Dave Stott Subject: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification In TELECOM Digest #291, Wlevant@aol.com (Bill Levant) wrote: > At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code > 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment. I did; it works > just like (700) 555-4141. > I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else? Yes; it's the number U S WEST, other RBOCs, and most IXCs agreed upon in the early days of inTRA-LATA toll pre-subscription (Jan. 1996). (Early at least for the RBOCs). When dialed in AZ, AT&T says "Thank you for choosing AT&T for your local toll calling." U S WEST says "Thank you for choosing U S WEST as your local long distance company." Not sure how the others describe the service. Dave Stott ------------------------------ From: richgr@netcom.com (Rich Greenberg) Subject: Re: InTRA-LATA Carrier Verification Organization: Organized? Me? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:53:40 GMT In article , Bill Levant wrote: > At one point, Worldcom told us to dial 700-4141 (we're in area code > 610) to verify our inTRA-LATA toll PIC assignment. I did; it works > just like (700) 555-4141. > I've never seen that mentioned here; does it work anywhere else? Doesn't work here in BellSouth 770 land. Rich Greenberg Work: Rich.Greenberg@Worldspan.ibmmail.com 770-563-6656 N6LRT Marietta, GA, USA Play: richgr@netcom.com 770-321-6507 Eastern time. I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val(Chinook,CGC,TT),Red(Husky,(RIP)),Shasta(Husky,TT) Owner:Chinook-L ------------------------------ From: tonypo@ultranet.com (Tony Pelliccio) Subject: Re: Report: Net Telephony Potential Drain For Telcoms Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:24:44 -0500 Organization: The Cesspool In article , Eric_Florack@xn.xerox. com says: > From INTERNET DAILY: > The Internet could cost telephone companies as much as $8 billion over > the next four years as consumers turn to the Net for voice and fax > services, Bloomberg news reported. A Falls Church, Va.-based > consulting firm. Action Information Services, issued a report saying > the lower costs of the Net will also prompt phone companies to lower > their prices. The report said international long distance companies > will be hit the most, perhaps amounting to as much as 4.5 percent of > the total revenues from telephone business between countries by the > year 2001, the Bloomberg report said. Personally I'd love to see the carriers lose $8 billion but I doubt it'll be that high. Why? Who owns the local loops that folks use to connect to the internet, and who provides a certain leg of the connection to an ISP's POP? But for me, until voice over the net increases in sound quality I'll be using what I currently use. If I want to hear sideband I can get on the amateur radio bands and listen to it there. Tony ------------------------------ From: bfm@pobox.com (Barry F Margolius) Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:59:59 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA I don't know much more than you, but I did use the service for several months, and here are my educated guesses as to how it works. The pager transmits an acknowledge message whenever it receives a page. This means that under "Full Service", messages are acknowledged with some kind of checksum and either dropped or resent by Skytel depending on whether the checksum is correct. When in "Basic Service", the pager receives but is unable to acknowledge. The pager is aware of this, so there must be some sort of "acknowledge the acknowledgement" sent from Skytel. Living in NYC, I rarely found myself in Basic Service mode. Since Skytel central thinks you are offline, it retransmits the pages later when you are in Full Service mode. The pager uses page ID and checksum to decide how to process these resent messages. In "Storing Messages" mode, nothing reaches the pager. I believe that Skytel central cannot differientate between Basic and Storing mode. Based upon a few tests, I think the pager rarely or never sends an "I'm here" message. It switches from Storing Messages to Full Service only when you are in a Full Service area _and_ you receive a new page. Thus when somebody pages me at noon, and I'm in the subway, the page is held for me by Skytel. But, if nobody pages me until 3pm, I don't get my noon page until 3pm, even if I'm above ground all day after 12:10. This can be circumvented by turning the pager off and then on; I think that causes an "I'm here" message in order to determine what mode the pager should start up. Even so, I liked the service, but I eventually cancelled because I hate the acutal pager that they were using. It's quite big, bulky, and harder to read than my advisor gold. -barry ------------------------------ From: dave@compata.compata.com (Dave Close) Subject: Re: "Sky Word Plus" - How Does it Work? Date: 25 Oct 1997 20:50:19 -0700 Organization: Compata, Costa Mesa, California mark_brukhartz@il.us.swissbank.com (Mark Brukhartz) writes: > Reliable paging (with acknowledgement and retransmission) is a great > service. Consumers will hear more about it as the 1900 MHz PCS phone > systems come online. Maybe so. But my experience with PacBell's PCS service is that they mean something different by "paging" than I mean. They mean that the system will ring your phone if it was off or out of range when some one left you voice mail. There is currently no way for someone to send me a page independent of leaving me a voice message. Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA "Politics is the business of getting dave@compata.com, +1 714 434 7359 power and privilege without dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke ------------------------------ From: DISA5@Dhahran-emh3.army.mil (Toby Stidham) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:18:35 GMT Subject: Re: Need Help Asynchronous and BISYNC I just wanted to put a real world application to this: In the Military, AN/FCC-100's LSTDM's are used to mux and demux low speed data users. When we had a requirement for a new low speed user, it was necesary to calculate how much bandwidth was being used on the aggregate to make sure the new circuit could be accomodated. Async circuits took up 4 x as much bandwidth on the aggregate as their syncronous counterparts (due to syncronous conversion before multiplexing). If one didn't take this into account when figuring the total bandwidth being used, that person could knock down the whole trunk if the bandwidth wasn't available for his new circuit, killing all the other traffic on the FCC-100 (damn things were built by the Army, they'd do some freaky stuff sometimes ;-) ) FCC-100 aggregate = 9600 bps sync port 1 = 4800 bps sync port 2 = 1200 bps sync port 3 = 300 bps async port 4 = 300 bps async Aggregate Overhead = 800-900 bps (cant remember the exact figure) New Circuit = 1200 bps sync The aggregate wouldn't be able to accomodate the new circuit since the 300 async's take up 1200 bps worth of aggregate bandwidth (300 x 4). The 4 x Data Rate was a given for us. Toby Stidham Government Systems Inc. http://www.gsinet.com/home.htm ------------------------------ From: Rich Courtney Subject: Re: Caller ID: GTE California to GTE Indiana? Date: 28 Oct 1997 02:44:09 GMT Organization: Norand Corporation I think California is prohibited from sending CID. It is due to privacy issues. ------------------------------ From: unicomp@onramp.net Subject: Employment Opportunity: ACD Manager Needed Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:22:37 -0500 Organization: OnRamp Technologies, Inc.; ISP Reply-To: unicomp@onramp.net I am looking for an individual with some experience in managing ACD systems, administration of TotalRecall/Crystal Reports and and some basic telephony experience. The position is in Dallas. If anyone interested, please contact: Akhil Tel :972-315-1699 unicompusa@onramp.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:01:12 +0600 From: Bob Collie Subject: Quick Question Regarding a Recent Post I have searched the archives, but am convinced that I do not know the right keywords to put in to find what I'm looking for. There was a URL posted recently that pointed to a reference for the 5ess switches, configuration, maintenance, description, et al that I tried to re-visit, and could not. Do you, perhaps, know of that URL? Bob Collie, VP/CTO, Telalink Corporation mailto:bob.collie@telalink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:48:13 -0500 From: Mike Pollock Subject: More on CompuServe Spam Here's some CompuServe Spam. As you can see, instuctions on how to remove oneself from the list are at the bottom. -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: CSi Online Promotions Group, [70006,2201] Date: 10/27/97 10:21 AM RE: Win a Dream Vacation on CSi! Now through November 5th CSi (CompuServe) is offering a special promotion offering a world of travel opportunities -- and a chance to win a dream vacation in the On The Go Sweepstakes! Whether you're traveling on business, getting set for a family trip or planning a much needed vacation, it's time for you to be on the go. 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Sincerely, CSi Online Promotions Group For information on how to add or remove yourself from CSi's special mailings list, click on the Go button (version 3.0 and above) or the Traffic Light icon (version 2.6 or below) at the top of the screen, type in MAILINGS. ------------------------------ From: rorem@mana.eecs.uic.edu (Doug Rorem) Subject: Re: Help! Interface Error With ZyXEL U-1496 Date: 26 Oct 1997 01:22:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Alick Sadekov (sadekov@cell.ru) wrote: > If you know "ZyXEL U-1496E Plus" with microprogramm 6.13R here is a > problem. I have 2 wire leased line and I need to connect two DTE > which have the next signals on their pins (see below). May be some of > you know what AT commands do I have to load in order to make it work. > DTE has V.24 interface, speed 2400 using noninverted bit stream. Using > default profiles (for 2 wire LL), test of DTE tells me that I have > interface error. Or may be it does not work at all? > DTE SIDE MODEM SIDE > SDL (ST7I) 25-PIN MALE CONNECTOR (MODEM) > RXD ----------- 3 Recieved Data > DSR ----------- 6 Data Set Ready > RTS ---------- 4 Reqest to send > RL ---------- 21 Remote Loop request > SF ---------- 11 Select frequency > RATE ---------- 23 Data rate selector > GND ---------- 7 Signal ground > CTS ---------- 5 Clear To Send > DTR ---------- 20 Data terminal ready > NC 24 Not Connected > TXC ---------- 15 Transmitter Timing > RXC ----------- 17 Reciever Timing > TXD ----------- 2 Transmitted Data > LL ----------- 18 Local Loop request > DCD ----------- 8 Data Carrier Detected > GND Signal ground > GND Signal ground > GND Signal ground > GND ----------- 7 Signal ground > TM ----------- 25 Loop ready > NC 22 Not Connected Alick, Make sure when you do an AT&V0 (to get the current profile) that the modem is set with &L1 (for 2 wire leased line) &N0 (for auto speed negotiation) &K0 (for no error correction) Also one modem should be set for *M0 (the one that will originate) The other should be set for *M1 (to answer) Then, to connect type ATA on the one that's set to answer and ATD on the one set for originate. Doug Rorem University of Illinois at Chicago (312)-996-5439 [voice] EECS Department RM 1120 (312)-413-1065 [fax] 851 S. Morgan Street (312)-232-4375 [pager] Chicago, IL 60607-7053 rorem@uic.edu ------------------------------ From: Telecom@Eureka.vip.best.NOSPAM (Linc Madison) Subject: Re: Canada Area 867 Activated Today Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:55:27 -0700 Organization: No unsolicited commercial e-mail! In article , ccremer@fc.net (Charles Cremer) wrote: > The Yukon and [Northwest] Territories of Canada now has area code 867. > Formerly, the region shared an area code with Alberta. Old Code: > 403/819 New Code: 867 Type of Relief: Split Effective Date: 10/21/97 > Permissive Dialing End Date: 4/26/98 > Test Number(s): 867-669-5448 Actually, the western portion (all of Yukon and the western NWT) shared 403 with Alberta. The eastern portion (around Hudson Bay, Baffin Island, etc.) shared area code 819 with central and northern Quebec. (819 still serves a large territory, stretching from the VT/NH/ME border, Sherbrooke, Drummondville, Trois-Rivieres, and Hull, and up the coast of James Bay, Hudson Bay, and Hudson Strait, to the northern portion of the border with Labrador.) The new 867 area code will also include the new Nunavut Territory, which is planned to be carved out of the current NWT in 1998 or 1999. Because of a prefix conflict, 819-979 (Iqaluit, formerly Frobisher Bay, on Baffin Island) will get 867-979, but 403-979 (Inuvik, near the northern reach of the Yukon/NWT border) will change to 867-777. Further details are available at my website, http://www.lincmad.com ** Do not spam e-mail me! ** Linc Madison * San Francisco, Calif. * Telecom@Eureka.vip.best-com >> NOTE: if you autoreply, you must change "NOSPAM" to "com" << ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V17 #294 ******************************