Return-Path: Received: by massis.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/NSCS-1.0S) id SAA20221; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (Patrick A. Townson) Message-Id: <199605062257.SAA20221@massis.lcs.mit.edu> To: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V16 #222 TELECOM Digest Mon, 6 May 96 18:57:00 EDT Volume 16 : Issue 222 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Numbering Plan Script For New Zealand (Martin Kealey) How Will Local Telephone Competition Work? (Craig A. Fringer) PIN Operation and Non-Traditional Cell Phones (John Gilbert) Wanted: Email to GSM Notification (Frederick Saunders) 1-800 Number Calling Cards: What to Get? (Neil Bardhan) 10-Digit Dialing is Easy (Thomas Lapp) CDPD in Los Angeles (Blair Shellenberg) Re: GSM Datacard Under Linux? 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martin@kurahaupo.gen.nz (Martin Kealey) Subject: Numbering Plan Script For New Zealand Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 01:58:20 +1200 Here is a script you may find useful for detirmining the location of telephone numbers in New Zealand. # "LCA" == "Local Calling Area" case ${1%%x*} in #64?9??????) echo "NZ - payphone callback" ;; +6421??????) echo "NZ - Bellsouth Cellphone" ;; +6424099???) echo "NZ - Antartica - Scott Base" ;; +6425??????) echo "NZ - Telecom Cellphone" ;; +64252??????) echo "NZ - Telecom Cellphone" ;; +642610????) echo "NZ - Telecom Pager Service" ;; +6426???????) echo "NZ - Telecom Pager Service" ;; +643206????) echo "NZ - Edendale LCA" ;; +64320[1234578]????) echo "NZ - Gore LCA" ;; +64321?????|\ +64322[14]????|\ +64322[56]????) echo "NZ - Otautau LCA" ;; +643234????) echo "NZ - Riverton LCA" ;; +643236????) echo "NZ - Winton LCA" ;; +64323[0159]????) echo "NZ - Invercargill / Stewart Island LCA" ;; +643246????) echo "NZ - Tokanui LCA" ;; +643248????) echo "NZ - Lumsden LCA" ;; +643249????) echo "NZ - Te Anau LCA" ;; +6432??????) echo "NZ - Southland ?" ;; +643304????) echo "NZ - Akaroa LCA" ;; +64330[238]????) echo "NZ - Ashburton LCA" ;; +643314????) echo "NZ - Amberlea LCA" ;; +643315????) echo "NZ - Culverden LCA" ;; +643318????) echo "NZ - Darfield LCA" ;; +643319[28]???) echo "NZ - Cheviot / Parnassus" ;; +643319[56]???) echo "NZ - Kaikoura" ;; +64331[23]????) echo "NZ - Rangiora LCA" ;; +6433??????) echo "NZ - Canterbury ?" ;; +6433[2345678]?????) echo "NZ - Christchurch LCA" ;; +6434128???|\ +6434139???|\ +643415[78]???|\ +643417????) echo "NZ - Milton LCA" ;; +643418????) echo "NZ - Balclutha LCA" ;; +6434350???) echo "NZ - Twizel LCA" ;; +6434351???) echo "NZ - Mt Cook LCA" ;; +64343[12479]????) echo "NZ - Oamaru LCA" ;; +64343[68]????) echo "NZ - Kurow LCA" ;; +643442[1369]???) echo "NZ - Queenstown LCA" ;; +643443????) echo "NZ - Wanaka LCA" ;; +643444????) echo "NZ - Ranfurly LCA" ;; +643445[012]???) echo "NZ - Cromwell LCA" ;; +6434473???|\ +643448????|\ +6434492???) echo "NZ - Alexandra LCA" ;; +643465[0127]???) echo "NZ - Palmerston LCA" ;; +6434859???) echo "NZ - Lawrence LCA" ;; +64348648??) echo "NZ - Waipori Falls LCA" ;; +64348[126789]????) echo "NZ - Dunedin LCA" ;; +6434??????) echo "NZ - Otago / McKenzie ?" ;; +6434[567]?????|\ +6435211???|\ +6435224???) echo "NZ - Nelson LCA" ;; +643523[89]???|\ +6435248???|\ +6435258???|\ +6435259???|\ +643526[678]???|\ +6435278???|\ +643528????|\ +6435294???) echo "NZ - Murchison LCA" ;; +6435295???) echo "NZ - Golden Bay LCA" ;; +6435296???) echo "NZ - Motueka LCA" ;; +64354?????|\ +6435716???|\ +6435765???|\ +64357[2345789]????) echo "NZ - Picton LCA" ;; +6435??????) echo "NZ - Marlborough ?" ;; +64361?????|\ +643685????) echo "NZ - Fairlie LCA" ;; +643689????) echo "NZ - Waimate LCA" ;; +64368[468]????) echo "NZ - Timaru LCA" ;; +64369?????) echo "NZ - Geraldine LCA" ;; +6436??????) echo "NZ - South Canterbury ?" ;; +64373[1268]????|\ +6437500???) echo "NZ - Haast LCA" ;; +6437510???) echo "NZ - Fox Glacier LCA" ;; +6437520???) echo "NZ - Franz Josef LCA" ;; +6437533???) echo "NZ - Hokitika LCA" ;; +643755????|\ +64376[28]????|\ +643782[168]???|\ +643789????) echo "NZ - Greymouth LCA" ;; +643789[56789]???) echo "NZ - Westport LCA" ;; +6437??????) echo "NZ - West Coast ?" ;; +64396?????) echo "NZ - Christchurch - Clear local service" ;; +643???????) echo "NZ - South Island" ;; +64429?????) echo "NZ - Kapiti" ;; +64438?????) echo "NZ - Wellington" ;; +64447?????) echo "NZ - Wellington" ;; +644499????) echo "NZ - Wellington" ;; +64456?????) echo "NZ - Wellington" ;; +64480[12]????) echo "NZ - Wellington" ;; +64491?????) echo "NZ - Wellington - Clear local service" ;; +644???????) echo "NZ - Wellington ?" ;; +64508??????) echo "NZ - free 0508 service call" ;; +645??*) echo "NZ - Alternate carrier service" ;; +64627[2348]????) echo "NZ - Hawera LCA" ;; +64630[4678]????) echo "NZ - Featherston LCA" ;; +646322[01]???) echo "NZ - Marton LCA - Bulls" ;; +646322[89]???) echo "NZ - Marton LCA" ;; +646327????|\ +64632[345689]????|\ +64634[23456]????) echo "NZ - Whanganui LCA" ;; +64635?????) echo "NZ - Palmerston North LCA" ;; +64636[23478]????) echo "NZ - Levin LCA" ;; +646374????) echo "NZ - Dannevirke LCA" ;; +64637[02789]????) echo "NZ - Masterton LCA" ;; +64637[56]????) echo "NZ - Pahiatua LCA" ;; +646385????) echo "NZ - Ohakune LCA" ;; +646387????) echo "NZ - Waiouru LCA" ;; +64638[28]????) echo "NZ - Taihape LCA" ;; +646752[59]???) echo "NZ - Mokau LCA" ;; +64675?????) echo "NZ - New Plymouth LCA" ;; +64676[13]????) echo "NZ - Opunaki LCA" ;; +64676[245]????) echo "NZ - Stratford LCA" ;; +64683[04569]????|\ +64683[78]????) echo "NZ - Wairoa LCA" ;; +64684[34]????|\ +64685[5678]????) echo "NZ - Waipukurau LCA" ;; +646864????) echo "NZ - Ruatoria LCA" ;; +64686[23789]????) echo "NZ - Gisborne LCA" ;; +64687[0456789]????) echo "NZ - Napier / Hastings LCA" ;; +646???????) echo "NZ - Taranaki ?" ;; +64730?????|\ +647312????|\ +64732[23]????) echo "NZ - Whakatane LCA" ;; +647332????|\ +6473339???|\ +647333[1278]???) echo "NZ - Rotorua LCA" ;; +6473[12]5????) echo "NZ - Opotiki LCA" ;; +6473[456]?????|\ +6473[78]?????) echo "NZ - Taupo LCA" ;; +6475??????) echo "NZ - Tauranga ?" ;; +6475[3457]?????) echo "NZ - Tauranga LCA" ;; +6478??????) echo "NZ - Hamilton" ;; +647???????) echo "NZ - Waikato" ;; +64800??????) echo "NZ - free 0800 service call" ;; +64830?????) echo "NZ - conference service" ;; +64832??) echo "NZ - mailbox service" ;; +64832?????) echo "NZ - mailbox address" ;; +64900?????) echo "NZ - chargable 0900 service call" ;; +649232????) echo "NZ - Pukekohe" ;; +6492334???) echo "NZ - Pukekohe - Pukekawa" ;; +649233????) echo "NZ - Pukekohe" ;; +649235????) echo "NZ - Pukekohe" ;; +649236????) echo "NZ - Pukekohe" ;; +649238????) echo "NZ - Pukekohe" ;; +649256????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Airport" ;; +64926?????) echo "NZ - Manukau" ;; +649270????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Panmure / Mt Wellington" ;; +649273????) echo "NZ - Auckland - East Tamaki" ;; +649275????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mangere" ;; +64927[124]????) echo "NZ - Auckland - South-east suburbs?" ;; +64927[6789]????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Papatoetoe" ;; +6492924???) echo "NZ - Papakura - Hunua" ;; +6492928???) echo "NZ - Papakura - Clevedon" ;; +649296????) echo "NZ - Papakura" ;; +649297????) echo "NZ - Papakura" ;; +649298????) echo "NZ - Papakura" ;; +649299????) echo "NZ - Papakura" ;; +64929?????) echo "NZ - Papakura ??" ;; +649300????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Urgent Services" ;; +649302????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649303????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649307????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +6493085???) echo "NZ - Telecom Auckland head office, extn 9${1#+649308}" ;; +6493089???) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649309????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +64930?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City?" ;; +64933?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Radio competition lines" ;; +649356????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649357????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649358????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +64935?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City?" ;; +649360????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Grey Lynn" ;; +6493668???) echo "NZ - Telecom Auckland head office, extn 9${1#+649366}" ;; +649366????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649367????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +64936?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City?" ;; +6493728???) echo "NZ - Auckland - Waiheke Island" ;; +649372????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Waiheke Island?" ;; +649373????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649376????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Grey Lynn" ;; +649377????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +649378????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Grey Lynn" ;; +649379????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City" ;; +6493??????) echo "NZ - Auckland - City?" ;; +64940[157]????) echo "NZ - Kaikohe LCA / Kerikeri" ;; +64940[234]????) echo "NZ - Kawakawa LCA / Paihia / Russell" ;; +64940[689]????) echo "NZ - Kaitaia / Northland LCA" ;; +649410????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Campbells Bay / Castor Bay" ;; +649412????) echo "NZ - Kumeu" ;; +649413????) echo "NZ - Greenhithe" ;; +649415????) echo "NZ - Albany" ;; +649416????) echo "NZ - Whenuapai" ;; +649418????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Northcote Birkenhead" ;; +649419????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Northcote Birkenhead" ;; +64941?????) echo "NZ - Auckland North Shore??" ;; +649420????) echo "NZ - Helensville" ;; +6494226???) echo "NZ - Warkworth - Matheson Bay, Leigh, Goat Island, Pakiri" ;; +6494227???) echo "NZ - Warkworth - Matakana" ;; +6494228???) echo "NZ - Warkworth - Kawau Island" ;; +649422????) echo "NZ - Warkworth Districts" ;; +649423????) echo "NZ - Wellsford" ;; +649424????) echo "NZ - Hibiscus Coast" ;; +6494258???) echo "NZ - Warkworth" ;; +6494259???) echo "NZ - Warkworth" ;; +649425????) echo "NZ - Warkworth Districts" ;; +649426????) echo "NZ - Hibiscus Coast" ;; +6494290???) echo "NZ - Great Barrier Island" ;; +6494312???) echo "NZ - Warkworth - Kaiwaka" ;; +649431[45]???) echo "NZ - Warkworth - Mangawhai" ;; +649431[678]???) echo "NZ - Maungaturoto" ;; +649439????) echo "NZ - Dargaville" ;; +64943[02-8]????) echo "NZ - Whangarei" ;; +649443????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Glenfield" ;; +649444????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Glenfield" ;; +649445????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Northcote" ;; +649446????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Northcote" ;; +64944?????) echo "NZ - Auckland North Shore ??" ;; +649473????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Torbay" ;; +649478????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Browns Bay / Mairangi Bay" ;; +649479????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Browns Bay / Mairangi Bay" ;; +64947?????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - East Coast Bays??" ;; +649480????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Northcote Birkenhead" ;; +649482????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Birkdale" ;; +649483????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Birkdale" ;; +649486????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Takapuna" ;; +649488????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Takapuna" ;; +649489????) echo "NZ - Auckland NS - Takapuna" ;; +64948?????) echo "NZ - Auckland North Shore - Inner?" ;; +649520????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Eastern Suburbs" ;; +649521????) echo "NZ - Auckland - East City Bays" ;; +649522????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Eastern Suburbs" ;; +649523????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Eastern Suburbs" ;; +649524????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Eastern Suburbs" ;; +649525????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Ellerslie" ;; +649527????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Panmure / Mt Wellington" ;; +649528????) echo "NZ - Auckland - East City Bays" ;; +649529????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Eastern Suburbs" ;; +64952?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Near Eastern Suburbs?" ;; +649530????) echo "NZ - Howick - Whitford" ;; +649534????) echo "NZ - Howick" ;; +649535????) echo "NZ - Howick" ;; +649536????) echo "NZ - Howick - Beachland" ;; +649537????) echo "NZ - Howick" ;; +64953?????) echo "NZ - Howick District?" ;; +649570????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Panmure / Mt Wellington" ;; +649573????) echo "NZ - Auckland - East Tamaki" ;; +649575????) echo "NZ - Auckland - East City Bays" ;; +649576????) echo "NZ - Pakuranga" ;; +649579????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Ellerslie" ;; +64957?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - South Eastern Suburbs?" ;; +649620????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Roskill" ;; +649622????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Onehunga" ;; +649624????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Hillsborough" ;; +649625????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Hillsborough" ;; +649626????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Blockhouse Bay" ;; +649627????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Blockhouse Bay" ;; +649629????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Roskill" ;; +64962?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner South-West?" ;; +649630????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Eden" ;; +6496315???) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Eden" ;; +649634????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Onehunga" ;; +649636????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Onehunga" ;; +649638????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Eden" ;; +64963?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner South?" ;; +649810????) echo "NZ - Auckland - West Coast" ;; +649814????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Waiatarua" ;; +649815????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Albert" ;; +649817????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Titirangi" ;; +649818????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Glen Eden" ;; +64981?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Western Suburbs" ;; +649820????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Avondale" ;; +649826????) echo "NZ - Auckland - New Lynn" ;; +649827????) echo "NZ - Auckland - New Lynn" ;; +649828????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Avondale" ;; +64982?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Inner Western Suburbs" ;; +649832????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Massey" ;; +649834????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Te Atatu & Te Atatu North" ;; +649836????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Henderson" ;; +649838????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Henderson" ;; +64983?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - North Western Suburbs" ;; +649846????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Albert" ;; +649849????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Mt Albert" ;; +64991?????) echo "NZ - Auckland - Clear local service" ;; +649???????) echo "NZ - Auckland / Northland ??" ;; +64??*) echo "NZ ??" ;; *) echo "+64 confused!" ;; esac ------------------------------ From: fringer@midget.towson.edu (Craig A. Fringer) Subject: How Will Local Telephone Competition Work? Date: 6 May 1996 20:43:34 GMT Organization: Towson State University, Towson, MD I am replying mostly to Pat's response to the original posting. I agree, and further I believe that the customer is the least of anyone's worries. The customer will get lost in the finger pointing of who is to blame for the service outage, when it occurs. Since I can't imagine that each company wishing to compete will constructing outside plant facilities I have to assume that the existing plant will support the competition. So when a customer has trouble, their serving company will be able to say "Hey, all our stuff checks out -- the problem is with the cable which is the Bell Company's responsibility." The Bell Company will then say "Not us, you aren't getting dial tone from your service provider." The customer will not know who to go to and will get caught in an endless run around. On another front, in terms of research and technology, I don't see customer satisfaction as the drive behind development. I installed Business Key Telephone equipment for two years, working for a small company and came to believe that the state of the art in key equipment was beyond the scope of most customers. Certainly, the systems we sold and installed were feature packed and well engineered. But, 90% of what the equipment was capable of was never tapped by the customer. They just didn't see a need for all the bells and whistles. It is my humble opinion, based on some study of AT&T's history that they put a great deal of emphasis on moving the process ahead. From cord operated situations to the digital switching of today, they were driven by a desire to provide better service to the customer, efficiently and affordably. Certainly, competition will create a more affordable climate, but is anyone concerned today about more efficient? I am still and AT&T Long Distance Customer and intend to stay with Bell Atlantic when competition comes to my area. Although I can point to some specific service deficiencies to date, I do not anticipate the competitors being able, or even willing to provide better. Craig Fringer Towson MD ------------------------------ From: johng@comm.mot.com (John Gilbert) Subject: PIN Operation and Non-Traditional Cell Phones Organization: Motorola LMPS Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 17:12:34 -0500 I know how regular cellular phones operate with a PIN. What effect does PIN operation have on burgular alarm systems via cellular, RJ-11 backup devices using cellular and cellular data modems? Are manufacturers of these devices having to install new firmware to deal with PINs or are the carriers not mandating PINs on these numbers? I found Ameritech to be extremely inflexible with their PIN policy -- very understanding at all levels, including the VP I spoke to, but unwilling to allow any level of service without a PIN. John Gilbert johng@comm.mot.com Motorola Trunked Systems Architecture Schaumburg, IL. ------------------------------ Date: 05 May 96 21:36:54 EDT From: Frederick Saunders <101657.2300@compuserve.com> Subject: Wanted: Email to GSM Notification Do you know of any one ofering a service / software where by you can receive notification to a GSM when you have Email waiting. Regards, Frederick Saunders New Business Development / Technical Director Gulf Faxcast UK 101657,2300 ------------------------------ From: jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 18:10:19 -0400 Subject: 1-800 Number Calling Cards: What to Get? This summer, I will be attending a three week academic program on a college campus. The organization that is in charge of the program suggests that students of the program (IAAY) should bring a 1-800 number calling card. This confuses me. THe college is in NYNEX territory, and I live in this area. What exactly is this type of card, and what should I get? Thanks, Neil Bardhan (nbardhan@pennynet.servtech.com, jbardhan@cyber2.servtech.com) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I think all he means is bring a phone credit card of your choice which you can use with your preferred carrier by dialing into the carrier's 800 number. Most likely the phone service at the college restricts long distance calls from their phones and they probably also block out 10xxx codes. This will provide you a way to make calls from the college phone system if you wish to do so. PAT] ------------------------------ From: thomas@menno.com (Thomas Lapp) Subject: 10-Digit Dialing is Easy Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:56:10 EDT I've been following the postings about how 10-digit dialing will soon become common in overlay areas with some amusement. I've been living in the Delmarva Valley for several years now, and there are five area codes within 25 miles of the northern county of Delaware. Around here is it very common to give area code with phone number, since your co-worker could be in MD (410), PA (610, or 215), DE (302) or NJ (609). I think that last year Delaware went to mandatory ten-digit dialing for all in-state long-distance calls as well, so it will make it easier if I dial ten digits all the time rather than trying to figure out if I need seven- or ten-digits to reach a party. Of course, when everything is ten digits, it will make it more difficult to know if I'm inter-LATA or intra-LATA or local dialing area. tom internet : thomas@menno.com or : lapptl@a1.wmvx.umc.dupont.com Location : Newark, DE, USA ------------------------------ From: blair@instep.bc.ca Subject: CDPD in Los Angeles Reply-To: blair@instep.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:40:07 GMT Hi there, I am interested in whether or not anyone knows if there are plans for CDPD deployment in the Los Angeles area in the near future. Please contact me via e-mail at . Sincerely, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Blair Shellenberg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 19:12:53 +0000 From: shane potter Subject: Re: GSM Datacard Under Linux? Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. In article , Roman Maeder wrote: > GSM cellular phones (which operate almost the world over, with the > notable exception of the USA; Hi there: Just wanted to clear up this misconception - GSM is indeed in operation in the United States, though not exactly under the moniker you might be familiar with. Motorola's ESMR/IDEN has been in use for quite a while, albeit in a fairly limited region. Additionally, many of the companies implementing PCS (personal communications systems/services) here in the U.S. have chosen GSM as their protocol, although it will operate at 1900 MHz as opposed to the 900 range. The first PCS system was developed around Washington D.C., and Voicestream Communications recently went live in the Hawaiian Islands. Shane Potter Nortel (Northern Telecom) GSM Field Support, N.A. Market Region spotter@bnr.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 17:47:50 -0500 From: zev@wireless.attmail.com (zev) Subject: Re: No More 10-ATT-0 Gabe M. Wiener wrote: > In article , Alan Toscano > wrote: >> On the other hand, if you've been using an LEC calling card to place >> calls over the AT&T network, you might soon be out-of-luck! > To add another permutation to all of this: I usually use my AT&T > calling card to place intra-NYNEX calls when at payphones and out of > change. Today I was told that "AT&T calling cards can no longer be > used on the NYNEX network." Great. Now I need to get ANOTHER calling > card. Correction: you can still use your AT&T calling card: just dial 102880 (1-0- ATT-0) first, or dial 1-800-CALL-ATT first. AT&T will handle local calls, as will any other IXC these days. Zev Rubenstein Independent Telecommunications Consultant ------------------------------ From: gwheeler@gate.net (Gerry Wheeler) Subject: Re: ADSI Standards and Devices Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 21:52:21 GMT Organization: SpectraFAX Corp. Reply-To: gwheeler@gate.net Klaus Zuenkler wrote: > Can anybody give me a pointer to the definition of the ADSI standard > and sources for compatible devices? The Dialogic voice cards can generate the ADSI signalling, so there is some coverage of the technique in their manuals. Dialogic has a WWW site, so you might find a lead to a manual there. Gerry Wheeler gwheeler@gate.net SpectraFAX Corp. Phone: 941-643-8739 Naples, FL Fax: 941-643-5070 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V16 #222 ******************************