From jeff@shultzinfosystems.com Sat Oct 18 09:07:16 2003 Path: newssvr28.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!pd7cy2so!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: jeff shultz Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery Subject: Re: Bugger Approved: No Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:21:16 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3f89f4aa$17$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <707lovcsbj3rkl0i0v130p34sibe4oq2as@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Xref: newsmst01.news.prodigy.com alt.sysadmin.recovery:321463 Status: RO Content-Length: 1564 Lines: 34 On 17 Oct 2003 15:10:58 GMT, flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) wrote: >Lionel writes: >>Useful tip: When you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, it's >>probably wisest to stop digging. Especially if raw sewage is seeping in >>at the bottom. > >Speaking of digging large holes makes me think of building construction, and >I seem to recall a newspaper article about a contractor who somehow failed to >connect the drain system to the sewage line. Same effect, much more effort. While helping dig a large pit at a Mexican orphanage for a new septic tank, the group I was with made the unplesant discovery that the existing septic tank, located a couple feet away, leaked. As long as all it did was turn the dirt on that wall black (paydirt, they called it), they lived with it.... As soon as that wall partially collapsed and it started actively leaking into the pit, my mom, a medical assistant, ordered everyone out. Since she was the cook that trip, everyone obeyed her. Some jobs you don't have to be a BOFH to get obedience from others. I'm not sure how they handled the problem, but by the time we returned the next year, the new septic tank was in place and there was a concrete pad for volleyball or somesuch on top of it. I got to dig out an improperly installed leach field for another drainage system that year. Fortunately this didn't involve (much) getting in the waste, which was from washing machines anyway. I loved going down there - you felt you were doing something _useful_. -- Jeff Shultz Once again a civilan