Re: tiling WMs suck (otaku), 01/03/2020 ------------------------------------------------------------ There's a horrible article on the www about how tiling window manager suck. You may read it here: http://xahlee.info/linux/why_tiling_window_manager_sucks.html I have no interest in arguing the points, as that has already been done. What I have found interesting is trying out this individual's suggestion for an alternative to tiling window management. After all, they feel strongly about it, so there might be something to what they've said. You'd probably find, if you looked back, that I've written about spectrwm and dwm. I used to use those, after learning about them on gopher. I loved them, aside from some quirks. It was from those two that I switched, to test out the theory in the article above. Summarized, the theory/suggestion in the article was that you can use what the author calls a "basic, normal" window manager to accomplish everything a tiling wm does, without the annoyances that generally accompany a tiling wm. The article suggests xfce, but that's too heavy to compare. I chose to test out openbox/lxde. I could probably get away with just openbox, but oh well. The first thing I needed was some key bindings. I setup a binding for dmenu, as well as bindings for switching virtual desktops, removing window manager decorations, and adjusting windows. My window adjustments let you toggle fullscreen, half-screen (left/right), or quarter screen (any quadrant). If anyone is interested in that rc file, it's not a secret and I'd be happy to send it. I also setup bindings for quickly starting a few other programs instantly, like xterm. When I sign in, I start up 3 xterms, remove their decorations, and lay them out like this: +---------------------------+------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | + +------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +---------------------------+------------------+ A common enough layout. Next, I switch to another virtual desktop and start my email client, full screen with no decorations. On to another virtual desktop for firefox, full screen with no decorations (I'm required, for my client's needs, to have a fat browser ready at any moment.) I have 9 virtual desktops, and fill 3 of them immediately when I login. These give me all I need for the most part, but if I need more, I just switch to a new one and away I go. How does it compare? I would say this: I'm able to get the layout that I want, and a workflow that stays out of my way. I can get myself going without touching the mouse at all. Resource usage is quite reasonable (and let's be honest, most of us have more than enough computing resources to do whatever we want these days.) And, I don't have to deal with the tiling quirks that throw a wrench in things from time to time. The result is a setup that isn't noticed, and I love that. Will I switch again? There's no doubt, as I switch operating environments perennially out of boredom. That doesn't mean that this way loses and that way wins, it's just a function of who I am. As for you... I don't know anything about you, but my suggestion is, when you find someone who does things a little differently, don't just write it off. Think about it, maybe try it out. You might gain something in the process.