Subj : BACKBONE.NO To : Renato Zambon From : mark lewis Date : Wed Sep 19 2007 02:16 pm RZ>> 4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from ml> sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing ml> posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone ml> echos like this one and the one for the wwb... RZ> A request to remove was sent at the same time to z1_backbone, RZ> z1backbone (seems it doesn't exist anymore), right, it went the way of the dodo bird when others left the network and/or quieted down and found something else to stir up... RZ> wwb_tech and the echolist. These 3 echos (like many others) had RZ> zero msgs in more than one year. i understand... however, my point is that even posting in those areas only removes them from those backbone lists... there is no real way to have them removed from all bbs' in fidonet... there was a method available but not all software supported it and many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow others to manage certain parts of it... )\/(ark * Origin: (1:3634/12) .