Subj : Re: NetMail specific opti
To   : PSI-JACK
From : WKITTY42
Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 07:20 pm

On 09/07/14, Psi-Jack said the following...
 
 Ps> In there has Netmail Crash, Netmail Hold, and Netmail Killsent. Now, I
 Ps> agree with only 2 of these being there, Netmail Hold, and Netmail
 Ps> Killsent. but Crash, should NEVER be globally enabled because it's not
 Ps> likely to be able to get to its destination unless Mystic itself is able
 Ps> to directly, and securely establish a connection to the destination node
 Ps> it's intended for.

i allow some of my users to crash netmails to remote systems... yes, even
systems that i do not have a secure password with... the crash option is a
sysop selectable choice and i see no problems with it... if users can choose
it is another option that the sysop can decide on...

 Ps> Netmail flags like this would actually be better in actual message editor
 Ps> options to be able to set certain features.  In fact, just an example
 Ps> that Janis provided me with for BBBS, which Mystic could still do better
 Ps> with the editor menu options more dynamically:

let's not forget that BBBS is a completely different animal... keep reading...

 Ps> In BBBS's example though, when setting the subject, one could use various
 Ps> subject lines, the first character (or first few characters, I guess
 Ps> depending on if it supports multiple flags or not), would be something
 Ps> like:

BBBS is the /only/ system that i'm aware of that allows choices like this via
the subject line... pretty much every other system uses the normal message
status bits and the operator's choice if users can set these bits or not...

 Ps> This could be done in Mystic's Menu to set Crash, or if you set crash
 Ps> and then set hold, remove crash and set hold. Attach of course would let
 Ps> you upload a file that would be attached to the specific message. I
 Ps> don't recall what file request would be used for though.

crash/hold has a specific meaning in the BSO world... it is how the old style
binkleyterm compatible software handles the DIRect message status bit...

the filre request bit is set when a FREQ is created... the subject line
contains the name of the file being requested as well as an possible password
necessary to access the file... one file may be requested per message... if
multiple files are being requested in one session, then the system should
create multiple netmails with the FREQ bit set and the name of the file in the
subject line with the password if needed...

 Ps> This, on a per-message basis, with ACS restrictions to be able to set
 Ps> attach, crash, hold, and possibly file request messages, all
 Ps> specifically and only on any Message Base where type is NetMail. There
 Ps> was one missing one I think from Janis's example, which is Direct, which
 Ps> Crash itself simply means, Direct AND Now, rather than just Direct when
 Ps> the system does it's normal polls.

ummm, no... CRAsh means when the events allow... IMMediate means now regardless
of the event settings... there's also routing to deal with... DIRect overrides
routing... but then BSO has some limitations and these are right up in the
midst of those limitations...

 Ps> Anyway, I hope to see something like this fixed, because the global
 Ps> option for Netmail Crash is generally a horrendously bad idea. :)

really? if the sysop has no problems with the netmail going out right now if
the current event allows for it?

oh wait... mystic doesn't (yet??) allow for mailer events which qualify mail
to be sent or not...

;)

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