Subj : Re: Learning Pascal again? To : Marty Kazmaier From : Scott Adams Date : Sat Jun 21 2003 12:04 am -=> Quoting Marty Kazmaier to All <=- MK> @MSGID: 1:138/389 01333a5a MK> I used a version of Pascal about 15 years ago in high school. MK> It was pretty easy, but I'm a lot older and denser now. I'd like to MK> re-learn Pascal with a method of other than attempting to figure out MK> non-lesson oriented source code. Can anyone suggest a book, and/or a MK> free compiler with lessons? Even a text book would be awesome. MK> I'm looking to get familiar with this language once again so I MK> can tackle EleXER (a pascal based language for EleBBS modules) and the MK> EleBBS source code. I used to be quite bright, but now with a much MK> more limited attention span, it's a bit more difficult. I've looked MK> at a little undocumented (and even documented) source and it was MK> completely undecipherable at my currently diminished skill level. I'm MK> at a state where I don't even understand file structures, MK> unfortunately. MK> I have used a little perl, but I have to constantly refer to MK> the book and fix tons of coding errors. I don't mind that, I learn MK> and hopefully remember. I'd like something similar to the Perl in a MK> Nutshell book for Pascal. Preferably TP7 (which I did own a while MK> back, but was completely confused) or any pascal compiler that's free MK> if there is such a thing. MK> To finish, a lesson based book for beginners (even (or maybe MK> especially) a text book or two; if more than one, I'd like them to MK> complement eachother) and a clue on how to get a free (or reasonably MK> priced, I'm pretty low income) pascal compiler are my main needs. I'm MK> not positive what I'll do, so I really can't help pinpoint my needs, MK> but I will be doing some CGI along with EleXER and once I'm brave MK> enough and competent again, I may delve into the EleBBS source. Ok. First it depends on several questions to be answered. Would this be for fun/hobby or some future potentional job oriented thing? Which language? BP7/Tp7 or Delphi/windows? If hobby it'd be best with bp7 if job then delphi is the only real language in the industry used pascal wise. There are several good free pascal compilers out there. I have 2-3 links on my web page with examples and important SWAG archives which is tons and tons of useful code. See below for the URL. Now years ago when I did pascal lessons on my network AdventureNet International that is on boards all over the globe I did pascal lessons in about 14 lessons (guessing here since its been years). I think its th eifle pasless.arj on my bbs now and heck it MIGHT be on my programming page on teh website as well (forget). At any rate its simple lessons that teach the basics up the advanced stuff if your interested. As to books I'd suggest Teach yourself in 21 days books. That series of books has just about every language covered. I used them for Java about 2 years ago when I sat and learned it at work. Most good stores have those and if you have a local comunity college go to their bookstore they have educational rates for compilers and books. For example I got delphi3 back then for around 99$ when its about 300$ elsewhere. The only problem is they don't give support through tech support. So answer the above stuff and we can go from there :) Besides this echo is for lessons so if you have questions just holler! http://users.cybermax.net/~longshot my website .... "No not really. I am the guy running this operation." - Dr. Franklin --- Fringe BBS * Origin: EWOG II - The Fringe - 904-733-1721 (1:112/91) .