Subj : Writing Devicedriver (Using EMX C++) To : Jonathan de Boyne Pollard From : Daniela Engert Date : Wed Nov 10 2004 04:12 am Hi Jonathan! Thus quoth Jonathan de Boyne Pollard to David Noon: DN>>> I doubt if OS/2 would load a PDD with 32-bit code in it. The kernel *forces* all segments in a PDD to 16-bit on load, ignoring the 32-bit-indicator in the file image. I learned this from my own experiments on this subject. DT>>> OS/2 will load a PDD with 32 bit code segments just fine. Dennis, this is true - but see above. DT>>> The "interface" to the rest of the system is still via 16 bit DT>>> addressing. The PDD needs to be able to be called via a 16 bit DT>>> interface and use 16 bit DevHelp. Just some "assembly glue" DT>>> required. Exactly, very easy indeed! JdBP> As far as I know, the restriction on I/O instructions applies to JdBP> application programs running in user mode, not physical device JdBP> drivers running in kernel mode. So both 16-bit and 32-bit code JdBP> can perform I/O instructions just fine in a PDD. (This is to be JdBP> expected, anyway, since PDDs run at ring 0, and the x86 JdBP> architecture doesn't allow IOPL to be set lower than 0!) This is true, tested by myself. JdBP> The questions that are raised, however, are: JdBP> What are the base and limit of the 32-bit selectors in CS/DS/SS JdBP> for a 32-bit PDD ? Are they based at the same address as the JdBP> user-mode flat-model CS/DS/SS selectors ? No. JdBP> I assume that they are GDT selectors. Of course, since driver segments must be addressable in every processor context. JdBP> But who creates the GDT entries ? Does the PDD loader do it, JdBP> and provide a kernel-mode thunking mechanism that all PDDs can JdBP> use ? No, up to now, the kernel has no 32-bit PDD support (see above also). If you like to have a 32-bit PDD, you have to construct it yourself *after load time*. So your driver itself switches from a 'mini 16-bit PDD' to a full fledged 32-bit PDD by modifying its code segment descriptor in the GDT at any point at init time. The thunking is no problem at all, just 4 instructions in case of the DevHlp calls. JdBP> If so, what is it ? Or is each 32-bit PDD expected to create its JdBP> own private selectors ? JdBP> Anyone know ? A working example is available on request. bye, Dani --- Sqed/32 1.14/r01354 * Origin: Nachtigall/2,Nuernberg/Ger,+49-911-861319,Z19+ISDN (2:2490/2575.2) .