Subj : Apache 1.3.22 up but? To : Mike Luther From : mark lewis Date : Sat Nov 03 2001 05:39 am ml>> patching process... in a few cases, i've even called ml>> them on the phone and talked to them directly telling ml>> them who i was, what i was doing, and why... you ml>> should hear some of their comments when i tell them ml>> certain steps (like placing a file in a certain place ml>> and they see it pop into existance via drag and drop ml>> from my desktop! or when i send the shutdown command) ml>> that i'm doing... there are times that i really wish ml>> that i could see and capture their facial ml>> expressions... ML> Sorry for my twisted humor personality, but you remember back ML> when I think it was Jack Lemmon played the Devil, had turned ML> this poor soul into a parrot? He didn't like it's looks, so ML> he wrenched the beak around qrotesquely, looked at it with a ML> tilted head like a parrot does, and then commented out of the ML> side of his mouth, "Definitely Piccasso!" ;) yup!! i don't exactly remember the "skit" but the statement is rightous! [trim] ML> I can reason this load-linee out mentally.. yup, seems so... ml>> or whatever... i guess it may also help that that box ml>> runs quite a few tasks all the time... from a clean ml>> boot, CTRL-ESC shows twenty-three (23) tasks running ml>> and those are running all the time as that machine's ml>> server ops that i employ here... ML> But in this case, we're dealing with a problem, I think, at ML> core level in the Kernel that sneaked in here at W40508 level. ok... i don't know if you are aware of it or if i've stated it during these exchanges, my system is warp 3 connect w/fp40 only... nothing else applied... the default warp 3 connect tcp/ip and mpts unless something in fp40 changed something in them... ML> It wasn't there for the original level of FP 15. Showed up ML> when I upgraded the Kernel only. I didn't get it caught in ML> time and figured out to report it in Testcase officially. In ML> the couple of months it took me isolate a trap like this that ML> doesn't even trap the box and leaves no way to trace it, ML> things went far forward from W40508. Plus, who in heck wants ML> to work with the Adaptec 1542C level cards which is the only ML> place I see it? As well, I'm not at all sure the Kernel is ML> really even the cause, as I've sorta now pinned it on the ML> SYSTEM checking CANARY deal from Norman in conjunction with ML> this. errrhummmmm... CANARY?? i understand that norman is a virus scanner, correct? ML> To date Norman hasn't even answered the support help ML> request... ;( oh, doesn't that leave warm fuzzies <> ML>> I'm cable hosted. .... ml>> uuugh... that does toss in a bit of a sticky wicket, ml>> eh? hummm... maybe you can run some sort of monitor ml>> that checks that tcp/ip is up and operational before ml>> apache is launched... you don't think it could be an ml>> EMX thing failing, do you? what level are you at with ml>> EMX and are you using the runtime only or the ml>> development?? ML> I'm at current level 4.09 as I recall. 4.09 which one? hehehe... j/k... though there are fixes out for 4.09... i think that i may be short one (ie: on fix3 and fix4 is out)... ML> It reports, I think, ML> 61 in the version dump screen. I'm also using the full ML> development game, but really don't need that for this box. ML> It's just easier to set up and dump in a common format for ML> stuff like this everywhere than do this on one box and that on ML> another. ok... i, too, use the full development stuff for pretty much the same reason... that and because i get curious at times and attempt to code me something in it <> ML> Thanks, ML> This one showed up directly here on OS2INET by the way. ok... your replies have all been coming back on OS2DOSBBS, though... yes, all my messages in this run are also in OS2DOSBBS... i didn't want to loose or confuse you any more than may already be... i'd rather get the info out to you and then get the other stuff straight... in any case, give your configs a going over or whatever and let's see if we can figure out why your replies are crossing over (no, not the john edward way) to OS2DOSBBS when they are being written in the proper area... oh hey! could it be that maybe the storage files for those two areas is crosslinked on disk somehow?? )\/(ark (watching for test in OS2INET to arrive in OS2INET) * Origin: (1:3634/12) .