Subj : Re: BinkP Utility - Stats Generator
To   : g00r00
From : Jeff Earle
Date : Tue May 11 2021 10:05 am

 g0> There are some generic open sourced JAM utilities that produce reports
 g0> like this but it would't include the dupe stuff and I can't for the life
 g0> of me remember where to find any of them.
 g0> 
I have searched as well and found nothing. I will keep looking

 g0> There may be one or two people who made similar things specifically for
 g0> Mystic too, but again I don't know what those are I just remember
 g0> hearing things.
 g0> 

I've been to all the Mystic related sites I can find and none seem to have
anything for stats on message bases, everything else though!

 g0> I can see the IN/OUT messages on a per-base level being a good thing to
 g0> track and right now it has to come from log parsing MUTIL, so that is
 g0> one place for some enhancements.  But even if that is tracked internally
 g0> that still doesn't tell you anything unless you specifically go look. 
 g0> Maybe what we're really looking for could be some automated
 g0> notifications when certain things happen?
 g0> 

I hear you on going to look. I prefer to get a report of what the system is
doing and if I see something in the report, yes, go look. But with a large
amount of message bases and networks, its too much to look though the log for
potential problems. Maybe its the reports I am used to in my job that brings
this to mind. With all the telemetry that gets recorded for our fleet of
trucks, I simply can't just go look for issues. I need those reports to point
me to potential issues so I know where to look. 
 
Had an issue the other day with 1 hub and if I didn't happen to be scrolling
through the message bases I would never have found it as I don't read that
peticular base. Saw that an enormous amount of messages were arriving each
poll to the hub. I am talking 10's of thousands of messages. Investigated an
found messages coming in decades old. Emailed the sysop right away and the
problem was fixed. Fixed in 1 day. That was just by luck. Reading a report
everyday would help so much. 
 I would be very interested in 'automating' these internal reports you
touched on. They would be very helpful.

 g0> If error tracking is your end game then there are some things you may
 g0> not be aware of, although they are more designed to be
 g0> hub-based automation features.  Mystic does track things like crash
 g0> errors, in/out files and bytes via BINKP. You can see all of these stats
 g0> for each node in the EchoNode Editor whenever you want...
 g0> 

I will check this out. No, I was not aware. After I look, I may have some
ideas.

 g0> There is also the "Echo Node Tracker" which will handle all sorts of
 g0> automated tasks for hubs like resetting stats on time-based intervals,
 g0> automatically deactivating nodes after periods of inactivity,
 g0> unsubscribing msg/file bases after automated deactivation, purging
 g0> outbound packets after inactivity period,
 g0> 

I can see where Hubs would use this. Gives me more to look at.:-)

 g0> But again all of that either happens automatically or requires you to
 g0> make the effort to go look yourself.  Perhaps we need to build in
 g0> notifications?
 g0> 
 g0> Open to any ideas of course, if you (or anyone else) has them.

If you don't mind, I do have some ideas that would fit right in with built in
notifications. 

I have that in my work and my Home streaming server. It notifies when
something isn't working and reports what was happening just before the issue.
I can correct immediately (remotely if needed) to get the streaming server
back online for the family viewers. Better that getting a call from daughter
who just says "Its not working and can't watch my show".

Thank you for the information. It is very helpful.
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