Subj : Re: Linux golded
To   : Nicholas Boel
From : Wilfred van Velzen
Date : Thu Nov 21 2024 11:26 pm

Hi Nicholas,

On 2024-11-21 16:05:45, you wrote to me:

 >>  NB> While they don't seem to show up in Golded (Golded must still
 >> filter
 >> this),
 >>  NB> I'm seeing your SEEN-BYs in every message you post, too. These don't
 >> look like
 >>  NB> they start with a CTRL character to be a proper kludge, either.

 >>  NB> Are trying to invalidate these in your Golded config by removing the
 >> "@" or
 >>  NB> something?

 >> His seen-bys look fine here? Maybe your reader gets confused when the origin
 >> line is missing?

 NB> I just got done saying it works fine in Golded, which is what you're using..
 NB> so it would look fine there.

 NB> Maybe it is my reader, I don't know. It also displays these SEEN-BYs on my
 NB> BBS, which does indeed know what FTN kludges are, and shouldn't matter if
 NB> there is an origin line or not.

 NB> I checked in Golded as well, and the "@" (which I think is just a translation
 NB> of a CTRL character) was missing before all SEEN-BY lines, yet Golded still
 NB> hides them (which is great for Golded, but my current reader and BBS software
 NB> is treating it like regular text, because there is no CTRL character before
 NB> it, as far as I can tell.

SEEN+BY lines normally don't have a CTRL character in front of them!

 NB> So I can only guess that something is stripping the CTRL character
 NB> before that specific kludge, as that "@" character is still there on
 NB> all the other kludges of his message (and I don't see any of those in
 NB> my reader, either), and it doesn't happen with anyone else that I've
 NB> read in the past few weeks.

So I still think the SEEN-BY lines in this case are treated as normal text, because the origin line is missing...

They will only be treated special if they come after the origin line, which normally is the last readable line in a message, so it triggers your reader, to hide the lines comming after the origin line (my guess).

Bye, Wilfred.

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