Subj : Re: qwk and/or points To : August Abolins From : Dale Shipp Date : Fri Apr 05 2019 01:33 am -=> On 04-04-19 18:54, August Abolins <=- -=> spoke to Alan Ianson about qwk and/or points <=- AA> I could never quite understand why points never seemed to catch the AA> imagination of message/echomail users in NA. As has been explained to me by various Z2 folks, the reason had mostly to do with the way telephone companies charged. In Europe, calls were time metered -- i.e. you paid for the time you called. In the USA, that was not the case for local calls. Depending on your plan with the telco, you either paid a flat rate for each call or all local calls were free. Long distance calls did charge based on the time of the call (and the distance). I'm not totally sure that explanation is completely true. Many users in the USA would call a BBS, download a mail packet, and then read that mail packet offline. Seems to me that would take no more time than accessing via point software. AA> Maybe it was the timing AA> of internet access coming into town and drawing people away to that. I think that may well be the reason for the loss of members of Fidonet. Folks moved away to other means of talking etc. AA> Myself, I had about 12 or 15 dedicated points up to about year 2004. AA> People loved the short-sessions and efficiency moving messages over AA> dialup. Ditto for downloading a QWK or BlueWave packet. Another factor with respect to points -- as some has said, a point is really a sysop in training. At least as far as operationg a mail only system is concerned. Here in the US, we have a number of users of BBSes who have no intention of becoming sysops. They are happy with communicating in the echos via a BBS. Dale Shipp fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net (1:261/1466) .... Shipwrecked on Hesperus in Columbia, Maryland. 01:43:18, 05 Apr 2019 ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Maximus/NT 3.01 * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466) .