Subj : In the future.. To : Jay Harris From : August Abolins Date : Mon Jun 08 2020 01:44 pm Hello Jay! ** On Monday 08.06.20 - 11:30, Jay Harris wrote to mark lewis: ml>> FTN is transport... it has nothing to do with the presentation... ml>> underneath it all, it is still raw text... JH> So then should we move this discussion to another more relevant echo? Here is a copy of a message (thank you Wilfred van Velzen) from one of the last moderators of this echo: ==================== ===BEGIN CITATION=== ==================== From: Klaus Kulbarsch To: ALL Date: 2005-04-04 03:42:46 Subject: MOD: The rules Area : FUTURE4FIDO Description : Discussion of new Fido technologies and developments Language : English Moderator : Klaus Kulbarsch, 2:2426/1205 Rulesfile : fut4fido.rul Permission : ALL Date : 01.05.2001 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Some words on top: Many thanks to Markus Engmann, the first moderator and Ulrich Schroeter, one of the most important founders of this echo. I will let their rules untouched. They fit our needs I presume. Topics: - Discussion and development of future-oriented mechanisms to advance means of access for new FidoNet participants, and of ideas on further development of FTN technology and FidoNet in general. - Discussion and problem solving in critical FidoNet areas, for example how to keep FidoNet attractive. What can we do as individuals or as a group, what ideas exist and what can be implemented? This echo is designed to provide a "workplace" for new developments in global FTN technology (as in the case of special echos for policy development), and to help us generate new ideas to keep Fido attractive in the future. Anyone who has a good idea about a subject dealing with what should be done to develop FidoNet can discuss it here at leisure. The echo is not only open to *Cs, but is particularly intended for developers and other interested participants, who can make useful contributions to the discussions on the basis of years of FidoNet experience. The currently valid policy and echo policy apply. The participants are requested to address one another in a friendly tone. Encoded files are not permitted in the echo. Any criticism of the moderation or moderation in general should be taken to moderated.ger (in R24). However, this does not mean that discussion of the basic subject of whether moderation is necessary in Fido, and how we can realize new related ideas, is undesirable; to this extent, such discussion is on topic. Many thanks to Robert Bashe for his translation. -+- NetMgr/2 1.0y+ @ Origin: News-Echos-Tracker-Mail-Gate-Router (2:2426/1205) --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815 * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464) ================= ==END CITATION=== ================= SO, following parts: - Discussion and development of future-oriented mechanisms to advance means of access for new FidoNet participants.. - Discussion and problem solving in critical FidoNet areas, for example how to keep FidoNet attractive.. ...could apply to a UI. For me, "participants" can encompass sysops and/or users. "keep FidoNet attractive" can imply a presentation style or new components that could make their way into bbs software and ultimately contribute to a better and more modern user/sysop experience. For me, the term Fidonet is not limited to just FTN and the raw FTSC stuff. Today's FUTURE4FIDO can still remain true to much of what Klaus had in mind, and even embrace auxiliary discussions. ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.44 * Origin: The future is not what it used to be. (2:221/1.58) .