Subj : Re: 2022 FTSC Standing Member Election - Votes Received
To   : Shaun Buzza
From : Dan Clough
Date : Sat Mar 12 2022 11:18 am

-=> Shaun Buzza wrote to Dan Clough <=-

 DC> Well, in effect it would be, sort of.  But, that wasn't the point.  I
 DC> was debating your claim that in real-world politics, "no" votes and
 DC> abstentions are counted.  They are not, because there *ARE* no "no"
 DC> votes.  When I look at my election ballot, I can choose to vote for
 DC> *ONE* candidate, which is a "yes" vote.  There is no choice to pencil in
 DC> for a "no" vote.

 SB> Realistically, one could vote for both candidates, or otherwise
 SB> invalidate the ballot card, which would be considered a 'spoilt
 SB> vote', or essentially an abstention. I know, I'm picking nits
 SB> here, but I did find reference to specifically this while doing
 SB> my due diligence on the word 'abstention':

 SB> "In another manner, an intentionally spoilt vote could be
 SB> interpreted as an active abstention. An intentionally spoilt vote
 SB> is caused by a voter who turns to an election and invalidates the
 SB> ballot paper in some way."

 SB> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstention]

While this is probably true, it is also irrelevant to the discussion at 
hand.  Again, on a real-world ballot, there is not a place to vote "NO".

Disclaimer:  The above refers to voting for candidates for an elected 
position.  I do realize that sometimes ballots contain yes/no votes for 
things like referendums or propositions.  There, that should save you 
some time...  ;-)


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