Subj : Unix point?
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : mark lewis
Date : Fri Jan 14 2022 06:21 pm


 On 2022 Jan 14 20:27:36, you wrote to me:

 ml>> not all proposals are accepted or if accepted, stick around...

 MK> Too bad they missed out on the opportunity to not accept a few of them
 MK> that stick around when they have no right to exist in the first place.

that's your opinion... i won't even ask who it is you think assigns any so-called rights to any proposals' existence...

 ml>> somewhere inside it, there is a conversion from string to numerics
 ml>> and back to string again

 MK> No doubt.

thank you...

 MK> However it REQUIRES the first character in the string to be either a
 MK> '+' (east) or a '-' (west).  Note the REQUIRE and that is part and
 MK> parcel of the offset ... which is always a string ... which is always
 MK> NaN.

you keep forgetting to add "in your chosen routine" to your statements... other routines that do the same or similar job do not have such a requirement...

 MK> Dropping the '+' character ist vorboten.

mmmhummm... no '+' here... plus you just said that it could be one of two specific characters so...

  TZ=UTC date --rfc-3339=sec --date="14 Jan 2022  22:27:36 -0000"
  2022-01-14 22:27:36+00:00

then there's this which also works just fine IF you like the ISO8601 format... some do not care for it...

  TZ=UTC date --rfc-3339=sec --utc
  2022-01-14 22:27:36+00:00

but you already know these things and are just trying to get your jollies arguing about something... meh... i'm done because it isn't worth it, it is a very old argument (like 2 decades now you've been going on about this??), and simply said, it is not what the developer who wrote the accepted spec decided to use...


PS: yes, i did time my use of the above 2nd date call (with --utc) to match the example naturally :)

PPS: i also note your use of a two-digit year in your examples ;)

PPPS: the resulting '+' or '-' on the time zone is likely due to the use of a boolean array where only true or false are allowed...

eg:
  const
    FmtOffset: string = '%.02d%.02d';
    Sign: array[Boolean] of Char = ('+', '-');

  var
    LocalTimeOffset: Integer;

  begin
    LocalTimeOffset := GetLocalTimeOffset;
    Writeln (FormatDateTime('YYYY MMM DD hh:mm:ss', Now) + ' ' + Sign[LocalTimeOffset>0],
             Format(FmtOffset, [LocalTimeOffset div MinsPerHour, LocalTimeOffset mod MinsPerHour]));
  end.

  2022 Jan 14 17:27:36 -0500


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