Subj : New Files Received To : Markus Reschke From : Alexey Vissarionov Date : Mon Nov 13 2017 05:34 pm Good ${greeting_time}, Markus! 13 Nov 2017 14:25:10, you wrote to me: AV>> If you grep the nodelist for my name, you'd find two nodes - one AV>> with Hub prefix, other with Pvt. The latter is mostly used for AV>> Husky FTN software development (esp. hpt), so I know what does AV>> "tosser gone mad" mean. AV>> But: only I know that, not my links or anyone else, because my AV>> hub system properly firewalls messages from such "untrusted" AV>> link. MR> My approach is similar and might be another idea for a FTS BCP. I think it's too obvious for that... and not FTN-related (more generic). MR> I've got VMs with FTS systems and a local OtherNet for testing. That should be the first step when developing software. However, I'm mostly brushing the existing code, so I need real messages (published in real echoes by other people with different software) for testing... MR> That way I can test FTS software and also things like OS upgrades MR> without causing too much trouble in the real world. I use VPSes (containers) for that purpose: this also allows quick node migration, once I'd need that. AV>> This looks trivial when you read about it, but I really wonder why AV>> all people around don't even think of that. MR> Maybe they don't understand the purpose of a testlab? Basically MR> there's no excuse for not doing that, since you get PCs for little MR> money and VM solutions for free. VMs (VDSes) seem to be the overkill for FTN software... unless you need to perform tests on various proprietary systems, of course. MR> And for marketing purposes you could call that a test cloud ;) There's no such thing as a cloud - there are only computers you don't own (or even control). And when someone tells you about clouds, they are very likely creating the fog for whatever reasons :-) -- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-cmlxxvii-mmxlviii .... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world --- /bin/vi * Origin: http://openwall.com/Owl (2:5020/545) .