Subj : Re: Is binkp/d's security model kaputt?
To   : Tenser
From : Atreyu
Date : Fri Sep 03 2021 05:23 pm

On 04 Sep 21  03:28:35, Tenser said the following to Oli:

T> You say that as if it's a bad thing, though I wouldn't use
T> the RFC822-descended mail formats.  But Fidonet (and all
T> extant FTN networks) have depended on the Internet for decades;
T> they've just used hobbyist protocols designed by amateurs that
T> are fragile and poorly conceived.  By using something standard,
T> they could actually take advantage of infrastructure to be
T> more robust, performant and secure...probably simpler, too.

While that is very true, the problem is the hobbyist protocols designed by 
amateurs are here to stay, thats what the vast majority of Sysops appear to be
comfortable with. BinkD was the last "real" innovation because it solved a 
problem which were the hodgepodge cumbersome scripting, FTP and TransX/Email
methods of the time. There has not been one single FTN innovation since then
that is worthy of being adapted on such a mass-scale like BinkD was.

Every couple of years or so this same exact topic comes up, almost verbatim,
and after some banter about why it would be great to use something
else/something better... even if someone is spot-on correct with something 
technically, eventually there is that realization that FTN's are what they 
are and won't change. Then that convo fizzles out. Sysops are just happy
trading banter on a flawed/obsolete network because they made it just work.

Anything beyond that just goes over their heads, its too complicated, too
"techie".

Atreyu

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
 * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (21:1/176)

.