Subj : fsxNet Feedback (ZeroTier
To   : Oli
From : N1uro
Date : Sun May 16 2021 09:04 pm

-=> Oli wrote to N1uro <=-

 Ol> N1uro wrote (2021-05-14):

 Ol> p2p connections work by default in ZeroTier. Does OpenVPN do any NAT
 Ol> hole punching? A known and simpler alternative would be tinc. OpenVPN
 Ol> has also become kind of old-tech. Is there anything wireguard wouldn't
 Ol> do simpler and better (for our use case)?

If  you're doing straight UNencrypted connections you don't need any VPN.
You could do it all with policy routing and a simple route table. It would
be 100% point to multipoint, no centralized hub required nor DNS in reality.
Just an IP address... which one already gets from their ISP.

 Ol> Personally I'm not interested in a top-down approach with admin(s)
 Ol> maintaining certs and granting and revoking access. I would call it
 Ol> unnecessary centralization (bullshit power & small bus factor). FTN are
 Ol> on the lower layer decentralized and designed as "cooperative anarchy".

I think the whole conversation steered away from the original claim which is
European Law requires a user's data be protected.

 Ol> It's not that I don't appreciate your initiative to setup OpenVPN for
 Ol> the network, I just doubt that standard VPNs are a good fit for FTN.

With the brain power on FTN nets, I'm sure we could develop our own solutions.

 Ol> (not sure what the European hub and laws part is about)

See above. It was suggested that we needed to insure encryption in/out
of European nodes which require certs and such. Being in the west I don't
-need- to do such but it was also suggested that those going into european
points also must encrypt.

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