Subj : Re: ansimrd.ans problem To : Captain Obvious From : The Godfather Date : Wed Sep 08 2021 08:21 am CO> I did the same thing. I messed with padding forever and never could get CO> it to work properly with it along with a few other files. I like using the $T and $X MCI codes whenever trying to "inject" text within a ANSI bordered box. For for example I've used: Subject $T30 &2 [X39 &3 $X78 !07 .. well not exactly those numbers but .. (spaces used in place of pipe codes in the above example, but obviouslyl pipe codes should be used) for those new .. Trim ensures the subject line is limited to 30 characters. 30+7 for Subject+2 Spaces = 39. I set the next data (&3) at X39, then follow with $X followed by a space. The $X command (with any character after it) will duplicate that character for up to ## of times. With my message reader, I use a space between the $X78 then a change the color to that of my ansi's forground/backround. The $X78 will display spaces up to column 78, therefore I have at one line of ansi border directly after the $XZ78 !07!Border. Just another way to skin a cat. Tdraw sounds like a lot more work :) -tG .... It said "insert disk #3", but only two will fit... --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/08/29 (Raspberry Pi/32) * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165) .