Subj : Re: i have a radio To : Ed Vance From : Otto Reverse Date : Mon Apr 28 2025 08:23 am EV> I am a Hard Case. EV> To Me a QSO is made over the air on both ends. EV> EV> Internet is internet,Radio is radio. EV> 73 de Ed W9ODR . . lol, no arguments here. That's why I put QSO in quotes. I see these various modes that use the Internet as a great way for hams who can no longer have HF gear to keep connected with other hams. But no, they aren't QSOs. I suppose they are also a good "appetiser" for HF for newer hams who haven't or aren't yet in a position to buy and put up HF gear. 73, Doug VE1LG .... The only place I want data loss is on my credit card! --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .